'14 AZ WR Mark Andrews (Oklahoma Verbal)

[ResLife Hero]

Are we 100% sure he ends up at TE and not WR?

 

[BeauBenken]

Are we 100% sure he ends up at TE and not WR?

He would be used like Eifert. He would be a TE but he would be split out often.

 

[IrishLax]

Really? I don't see that at all. Jonathan Baldwin was much more explosive and he went up against better high school competition. JB ran a 4.50 electronic 40 flat at the NFL combine at 6'4" and 228 pounds and he also had a 42 inch vertical. Mark Andrews isn't going to run anywhere near that right now nor after he's spent 3 or 4 years in a college strength program and has put on 25 pounds of muscle. Not sure he's that sort of explosive leaper either.

Mark Andrews is a future TE, and probably the best pass catching TE in the nation.

I keep getting an internal server error so I'm sending you a PM with details. Long story short: Baldwin has the same measureables as Andrews, played primarily TE in HS, was often considered a TE prospect throughout his recruitment, and his HS film is similar. The only difference is that Baldwin probably has better straight line speed and maybe overall athleticism... but their games are similar.

 

[drake29]

dropping the easy ones aren't a reflection of his hands, more his focus.

Dude, do you have to argue everything I say? It's almost like you're stalking me at this point. You're right about his focus, but his hands could be part of the problem as well. I'm not sure - haven't watched his highlights lately but I just remembered that being a knock on him.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Dude, do you have to argue everything I say? It's almost like you're stalking me at this point. You're right about his focus, but his hands could be part of the problem as well. I'm not sure - haven't watched his highlights lately but I just remembered that being a knock on him.

Um, actually NDDomer was quite a successful college wide receiver. In fact, if I were to hire a young guy to coach the position, NDDomer would automatically make the final cut, and probably be the guy I would hire to teach the young guys. That and he is highly intelligent, tall, very dashing, and extremely good looking. Oh, and he didn't pay me $50 to say all this.

But NDDomer is the kind of guy when he says something, you can take it to the bank!

 

[NDdomer2]

Dude, do you have to argue everything I say? It's almost like you're stalking me at this point. You're right about his focus, but his hands could be part of the problem as well. I'm not sure - haven't watched his highlights lately but I just remembered that being a knock on him.

hahahahahahaha

 

[PANDFAN]

“The way we feel about it is we are going to look at schools separately and find the match for us,” Allen said. “If it works out that we both feel the exact same way about a school then we’ll commit together. If it happens, it’ll be amazing. We’ll have four years of chemistry under our belts. We’ll find the fit that’s perfect for us.”


this is andrews talking about him and allen after allen got an osu offer yesterday

insider

 

[STLDomer]

According to his coach (who also seems to really like ND) he ran a 4.7 40 (electronic not hand time) recently and is up to 235 lbs.

He also likened Allen to AJ McCarron

 

[Buster Bluth]

A 4.7 and this kid is set on being a WR?

 

[jerboski]

A 4.7 and this kid is set on being a WR?

He's not set on wr, he likes the idea of being used like Tyler

 

[STLDomer]

A 4.7 and this kid is set on being a WR?

I didnt think 4.7 was bad for his size, I actually thought it was kinda good considering it was electronic timed. My guess would be most of the bigger WRs (and he's the biggest) run around 4.7 in actuality, even if their profiles say 4.4/4.5

 

[11WBuckeye]

I didnt think 4.7 was bad for his size, I actually thought it was kinda good considering it was electronic timed. My guess would be most of the bigger WRs (and he's the biggest) run around 4.7 in actuality, even if their profiles say 4.4/4.5

but as we see at the combine every year hand times are usually off by .10 or close to it and even more in some cases so he's probably a low 4.8 guy which isn't very good at 235 (it was reported 225 on our website)

 

[STLDomer]

but as we see at the combine every year hand times are usually off by .10 or close to it and even more in some cases so he's probably a low 4.8 guy which isn't very good at 235 (it was reported 225 on our website)

but it wasn't hand time....

 

[11WBuckeye]

but it wasn't hand time....

but it was, at least when he ran for coaches for a college back in early april when they visited him (never heard the college, some think it was guys from OU)

 

[STLDomer]

According to his coach (who also seems to really like ND) he ran a 4.7 40 (electronic not hand time) recently and is up to 235 lbs.

He also likened Allen to AJ McCarron

but it was, at least when he ran for coaches for a college back in early april when they visited him (never heard the college, some think it was guys from OU)

His HC said he ran a 4.7 electronic 40 recently

 

[11WBuckeye]

His HC said he ran a 4.7 electronic 40 recently

his coach can tell a website whateve he wants, Andrews told one of our reporters it was hand timed

 

[clashmore_mike]

his coach can tell a website whateve he wants, Andrews told one of our reporters it was hand timed

well if your reporters report it, it must be true. take a lap, bro.

 

[STLDomer]

his coach can tell a website whateve he wants, Andrews told one of our reporters it was hand timed

so you are calling his HC a liar just because Andrews talked to Eleven Warriors a month ago? Ever stop to think that he has run more than one 40?

 

[ThePiombino]

He would be used like Eifert. He would be a TE but he would be split out often.

Assuming this is the case and Andrews pops, would we still take Luatua's committment? I would find it hard to believe we would turn away a top-20 talent, but even harder to believe we would take three TEs.

 

[STLDomer]

Assuming this is the case and Andrews pops, would we still take Luatua's committment? I would find it hard to believe we would turn away a top-20 talent, but even harder to believe we would take three TEs.

Lutua is a take no matter what, Luatua is a more traditional TE and if the staff feels its too crowded at TE, he is being recruited as an OLB too

 

[blueNDgold44]

but as we see at the combine every year hand times are usually off by .10 or close to it and even more in some cases so he's probably a low 4.8 guy which isn't very good at 235 (it was reported 225 on our website)

Idk if it is just me but WTF is the big difference between 4.7 and 4.8.

Oh and Jerry Rice ran a 4.7, 40 yard dash is a joke.

 

[ThePiombino]

Lutua is a take no matter what, Luatua is a more traditional TE and if the staff feels its too crowded at TE, he is being recruited as an OLB too

Cool, thanks.

 

[koonja]

Idk if it is just me but WTF is the big difference between 4.7 and 4.8.

Oh and Jerry Rice ran a 4.7, 40 yard dash is a joke.

It's more than you think. I regret I cannot find the exact article/video clip, but the sports science guys determined that the difference between a 4.3 and a 4.4 are two full stride lengths in the 40 yard dash. That is very significant.

It will not be the exact same separation between 4.7 and 4.8, but I presume the difference in separation would be greater between 4.7 and 4.8 since the 2nd guy (4.8 guy) will not be running as fast as the 2nd guy from example # 1 (4.4 guy).

I would guess two stride lengths is about 4-5 yards? Not sure.

 

[blueNDgold44]

Good point...but still the 40 sucks.

No pads, and rarely ever will someone run full sprint with their head down in a straight line in a real football game.

 

[IrishLax]

Good point...but still the 40 sucks.

No pads, and rarely ever will someone run full sprint with their head down in a straight line in a real football game.

It does suck. No idea why not more attention paid to 10/20 yard splits.

 

[scUM Hater]

I've always been a fan of "Football Fast", rather than straight line 40 speed.

 

[koonja]

Everyone will prefer field-speed over 40-speed, but the 40 is a way to measure (although not absolute) a player's athleticism.

Yes, the 10-20 yard 'bursts' translate more to the football field, but given the variance in 'starts' (these aren't track guys with perfect form), the 40-yard is a more accurate measure.

Imagine if you/we/they only measured 20-yard sprints because they do matter more for football. Well, in track, MOST will start about the same. But these football players and football players without track practice will have good/bad starts (relatively speaking, there will be more variance among football players than track athletes).

If they're measuring 20-yard times, and a player sucks at starting so his first 10 yards are awful, he only has 10 yards to 'make up' for the lack of solid start. In this situation, an incredibly fast player with a poor start will finish a lot closer in time to a player with significantly lower speed, if the slower guy has a good start.

If he's running a 40, he at least has 30 yards to stride out and make his time more impressive AND accurate given his ****** start.

It's not perfect, but it does give you an idea of athleticism.

 

[FLDomer]

Yay! Another thread filled with 40 yd dash talk....awesome. What that saying about a dead horse?

 

[peoriairish]

Yay! Another thread filled with 40 yd dash talk....awesome. What that saying about a dead horse?

 

[Irishnuke]

Yay! Another thread filled with 40 yd dash talk....awesome. What that saying about a dead horse?

Never look a dead horse in the mouth. Right?