Glenn Beck news on bombings in Boston

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Nobody hates the "everyone gets a trophy" mentality more than I do, but that has nothing to do with political correctness, which is a concept invented by idiots to excuse themselves for saying ignorant offensive things.

The "change" or "evolution" that has occurred since the formation of the country includes, among many others, the counting of black people as (whole) people, the elimation of the concept that black people are property, giving blacks and women the rights to vote and own property, the emergence of the U.S. as a global power, the industrial revolution, a better and more complete scientific understanding of our world, and the emergence technology to make transportation and communication easier. There is no legitimate argument that those changes don't represent progress, but even if there was an argument it wouldn't matter. The world changes, that is its nature. Evolution is part of existence.

What surprises me the most, considering your progressive thinking, is that you would include pictures in your posts that many of your fellow progressives would consider degrading toward women.
 

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What surprises me the most, considering your progressive thinking, is that you would include pictures in your posts that many of your fellow progressives would consider degrading toward women.

I find the perception of progressives that exist among some on this board surprising and strange. Progressives are just like everyone else, only educated. It never would have crossed my mind that there is anything offensive about thinking Kate Upton is attractive. Most of my friends are progressives, too, and I don't think any of them would find that offensive, including the gay ones and the women.
 
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What surprises me the most, considering your progressive thinking, is that you would include pictures in your posts that many of your fellow progressives would consider degrading toward women.

While I disagree with Rhode on most political issues, I don't see how posting pictures of women who make a living as models is degrading. That's the job they chose to do.
 

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What surprises me the most, considering your progressive thinking, is that you would include pictures in your posts that many of your fellow progressives would consider degrading toward women.

The more I think about this, the more astonishing I find it. Wouldn't most people's perception actually be the complete opposite? Like, conservatives tend to be the prudish bible thumpers and liberals are just silly hippies with their free love and whatnot? I mean, obviously those stereotypes would be just as wrong and overly simplistic, but at least I would recognize them as being a mainstream form of stupid.

I'm not sure what planet you'd have to be from to make this comment, but I'd love it if you would try to substantiate it in some way. The only thing I can think of is that you have confused progressivism with militant feminism, which 90% of progressives find just as annoying as you probably do. I'm all for women's rights, but the kind of crazy that you find in the jezebel.com comment section is just as strange to me as some of the right wing craziness that gets posted here. On the other hand, we have already been confused with terrorist sympathizers on this board this weekend, so maybe it isn't that shocking.
 
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O'reilly is actually pretty damn central. Rather than take the lyrics from rap artists and judge him, watch him sometime.


And I bet this is what Beck is going to comment on:

Boston bombers: FBI hunting 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” linked to brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev - Mirror Online

I do watch him due to my roomate. His views aren't as conservative as Hannitiy's but to label him a centrist is wrong. He does have liberal views on some issues but he does lean right. O'reilly is just obnoxious and interrupts his guests. It's not watchable.
 

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I'm conservative. After following him for years, Glen Beck lost me long ago. Each party has so much fun picking on the odd-balls out on the extreme wings of the party. My god...Glen would be thrilled that he kicked up this dust storm. I have only weighed in on the political stuff a couple times like when I said on the marajuana tread that nobody today believes that they should endure anything. I quickly got run from that thread. I'm incredibly sad at the direction the american people (not nessarily the government) is heading. No accountability, no shame, no work ethic, no faith, etc. I'll never be able to affect these things on a large scale and I'll never try. I'm an Irish/Catholic who goes to church but hasn't had the urge to bump or hit a bible. It would be good if we americans could at least bring back the concept of grace.
 
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He's a great mixer and music producer though. I used to listen to him a lot in middle school/high school.

Totally agree. I actually like his work, which I can say about quite a few scientologists. I just really don't get how someone could get into such a batshit crazy philosophy. Must be something about creative people that makes them more susceptible to it.
 

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I was liberal in my teen years. Became conservative towards the end of college and became a moderate libertarian in grad school. I probably won't stray too far from the positions I have now.

My argument for small government is simple, I dont trust politicians and I despise corruption. Corporate capitalism is disgusting and disenfranchises more people than any tax, social glass ceilling, or percieved inherant societal bias.

I dont think the federal government is fit to distribute or allocate resources as they fail continuously and end up making some political power broker filthy rich. The inner-city public school system, which consists of the people who need the most education and assistance, is a ponzi-scheme. The poverty trap is a neverending cycle and these poor people have no idea that they are used and exploited.

We need more accountability/oversight in our government and a stronger system of checks/balances. Raising taxes to spend more money isnt going to fix any probelms, it doesnt help the poor and it doesnt shrink the gap between the economic classes.

Ideally, I'd prefer a very small decentralized government, but unfortunately we're at a point where that is unrealistic. I'd prefer the states and localities to have more say in the distribution of resources with less red tape and more common sense accountability without the loopholes. I dont like tax hikes serving as a never ending well of resources to fund incompetence and corruption. If the government did a legit audit of itself and cut out waste, overlapping boards..etc, and political red tape we wouldn't need to raise taxes.

I'd also love to see the federal reserve audited and held accountable for manipulating currency. I'm not a fan of keyenesian economics, too much power for such a few number of people who remain immune to any oversight or audit. I dont trust or have enough faith in people to trust them with 20$ let alone 20 trillion.

Social issues, I believe in individual freedom. I am prolife, but by principle I believe in liberty.It is not my business what other people do with their bodies. It is between them and their God.

Gay marriage? Dont really care what you do or who you bang. It has nothing to do with me. Although bisexual people do puzzle me, the psychology of the position is very interesting.
 
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Totally agree. I actually like his work, which I can say about quite a few scientologists. I just really don't get how someone could get into such a batshit crazy philosophy. Must be something about creative people that makes them more susceptible to it.

Beck was born into it. His parents were Scientologists.

Beck was a great entry into art rock and avant-garde. He's one of the people or bands I attribute my musical growth to.
 
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Sea Change is also one of the best, most emotional albums ever made. Beck consistently made solid albums for nearly 2 decades which is really impressive. There are so few people who stayed consistently good for that long. Bob Dylan & Tom Waits come to mind.

I was also impressed by his cover of The Velvet Underground & Nico. It's tough to try to cover the greatest piece of music in history, but he did a good job of putting his own twist on the songs. Of course it was brought down because, although I really like and respect Beck, he doesn't have the musical genius of Lou Reed or John Cale. His Venus In Furs cover is damn near as good as the original though.
 
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I was liberal in my teen years. Became conservative towards the end of college and became a moderate libertarian in grad school. I probably won't stray too far from the positions I have now.

My argument for small government is simple, I dont trust politicians and I despise corruption. Corporate capitalism is disgusting and disenfranchises more people than any tax, social glass ceilling, or percieved inherant societal bias.

I dont think the federal government is fit to distribute or allocate resources as they fail continuously and end up making some political power broker filthy rich. The inner-city public school system, which consists of the people who need the most education and assistance, is a ponzi-scheme. The poverty trap is a neverending cycle and these poor people have no idea that they are used and exploited.

We need more accountability/oversight in our government and a stronger system of checks/balances. Raising taxes to spend more money isnt going to fix any probelms, it doesnt help the poor and it doesnt shrink the gap between the economic classes.

Ideally, I'd prefer a very small decentralized government, but unfortunately we're at a point where that is unrealistic. I'd prefer the states and localities to have more say in the distribution of resources with less red tape and more common sense accountability without the loopholes. I dont like tax hikes serving as a never ending well of resources to fund incompetence and corruption. If the government did a legit audit of itself and cut out waste, overlapping boards..etc, and political red tape we wouldn't need to raise taxes.

I'd also love to see the federal reserve audited and held accountable for manipulating currency. I'm not a fan of keyenesian economics, too much power for such a few number of people who remain immune to any oversight or audit. I dont trust or have enough faith in people to trust them with 20$ let alone 20 trillion.

Social issues, I believe in individual freedom. I am prolife, but by principle I believe in liberty.It is not my business what other people do with their bodies. It is between them and their God.

Gay marriage? Dont really care what you do or who you bang. It has nothing to do with me. Although bisexual people do puzzle me, the psychology of the position is very interesting.

I agree with damn near every single word....except for decentralized governance...

While I'd prefer decentralized to what we have currently, I think we need a small centralized government with very clear bumpers within which to operate. People who advocate for more government clearly have not operated in or alongside government to any degree much less endeavored to seek performance measures that are REAL...so we'll check in with the big gov. boys in 2015...I'm guessing half will have changed their view a bit....chuckle and SMH.
 

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i'm not big on superlatives. i think they are irrelevant....however, glenn beck is the biggest douche-bag EVER.

continue any sort of ridiculous statements for and unnecessary statements against.

back to football.
 
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I agree with damn near every single word....except for decentralized governance...

While I'd prefer decentralized to what we have currently, I think we need a small centralized government with very clear bumpers within which to operate. People who advocate for more government clearly have not operated in or alongside government to any degree much less endeavored to seek performance measures that are REAL...so we'll check in with the big gov. boys in 2015...I'm guessing half will have changed their view a bit....chuckle and SMH.

I agree with damn near every single word......except for small centralized government.

Make more efficient what we have. Today government is and has been for more than thirty years a correction for bad employment numbers. But eliminating services is not the way to go, and accepting more personal responsibility sounds good in theory until it is your house that starts to burn.

I believe we don't have the best model yet. But true wealth, from a societal and personal view is in the strength and committed personal bonds between individuals in our society. We get more in production from two (or more) people working together, and specificity allows a higher level of performance.

We see both of these at work with the Boston bombing story last week. Do you all have any idea how many police came to bear on the situation? Over 10,000! That is a small city. Dunkin' Donuts stayed open Friday, when everyone else was closed, serving only the police, and still had a good sales day! That is the good, that we can bring up a force like that when needed, and not have to garrison troops every day because of it!
 

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i'm not big on superlatives. i think they are irrelevant....however, glenn beck is the biggest douche-bag EVER.

continue any sort of ridiculous statements for and unnecessary statements against.

back to football.

Actually...I would put him in a tie with Keith Olberman.
 

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I agree with damn near every single word......except for small centralized government.

Make more efficient what we have. Today government is and has been for more than thirty years a correction for bad employment numbers. But eliminating services is not the way to go, and accepting more personal responsibility sounds good in theory until it is your house that starts to burn.

Well, I don't want my house to burn, but if I was worried I'd make sure that was a local problem to be solved...not federal. Reality is, government CANNOT add efficiency to ANY process wherein cost is assigned to their "service". If you looked at the government like a charity, and your tax dollars as contributions...how much overhead from the charity is ok with you before you shake your head and find a different one. Federal Government has great intentions but lacks the ability to deliver because 1) they underpay compared to industry; 2) politics destroys programmatic continuity; 3) innovation within its ranks is RARELY rewarded 4) increased pay is primarily derived through years of service and the number of people you manage...this breeds individuals who justify fiefdoms all day to get a raise...now, add in the way federal "budgets" are being done...just start with last year + 3%...please find me where anyone is incentivized to meet a goal much less do it with fewer resources. Tell me where, in this scenario efficiency is rewarded. Dude Please...I work with some great civilians that somehow rise above it, but they know when its time to get **** done they put it on contract. So why not accept that, and make government people primarily acquisition and oversight professionals, cut the staff down to 1/3 what it is in most cases and let the competitive market place go to work? Right now the reality is you have BOTH.

I believe we don't have the best model yet.

...not the Best...you gotta be kidding. If you could concoct a situation that would lead to failure in business...well you know where this is headed...

But true wealth, from a societal and personal view is in the strength and committed personal bonds between individuals in our society. We get more in production from two (or more) people working together, and specificity allows a higher level of performance.

...but somehow government ENABLES all of this???

We see both of these at work with the Boston bombing story last week. Do you all have any idea how many police came to bear on the situation? Over 10,000! That is a small city. Dunkin' Donuts stayed open Friday, when everyone else was closed, serving only the police, and still had a good sales day! That is the good, that we can bring up a force like that when needed, and not have to garrison troops every day because of it!

...sounds like a well regulated militia...oh wait wrong thread...I kid.
 

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No question about it. No surprise they both got run off TV. They are both so over the top they are like cartoons.

I thought KO was ok at ESPN...I was disappointed in him after. Don't like his politics, but mostly the guy comes off as "agree with me or you are dumb/evil"...I expect that on IE...not from a guy trying to carry a national "news" broadcast.
 

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I find the perception of progressives that exist among some on this board surprising and strange. Progressives are just like everyone else, only educated. It never would have crossed my mind that there is anything offensive about thinking Kate Upton is attractive. Most of my friends are progressives, too, and I don't think any of them would find that offensive, including the gay ones and the women.

Yes, because a degree in Art history makes you "educated"

Progressives are the most hypocritical people on the planet. Progress to them is for everyone to think and act like them...or else you're slapped with some label.

Congrats. You're the MTV party, nothing more.
 

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I thought KO was ok at ESPN...I was disappointed in him after. Don't like his politics, but mostly the guy comes off as "agree with me or you are dumb/evil"...I expect that on IE...not from a guy trying to carry a national "news" broadcast.

...and he treated the people around him at work, like crap.

That will get you run off faster than your politics
 

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...and he treated the people around him at work, like crap.

That will get you run off faster than your politics

yea...that'd be news to me. I must admit I was merely a consumer of the programming, no inside knowledge...
 
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