The Trial of Dr. Kermit Gosnell

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WARNING: This story will likely make you sick to your stomach, but I feel compelled to share it anyway.

Says Kirsten Powers in her USA Today op-ed, "Let me state the obvious. This should be front page news. When Rush Limbaugh attacked Sandra Fluke, there was non-stop media hysteria. The venerable NBC Nightly News' Brian Williams intoned, 'A firestorm of outrage from women after a crude tirade from Rush Limbaugh,' as he teased a segment on the brouhaha. Yet, accusations of babies having their heads severed -- a major human rights story if there ever was one -- doesn't make the cut."

Inducing live births and subsequently severing the heads of the babies is indeed a horrific story that merits significant attention. Strange as it seems to say it, however, that understates the case.

For this isn't solely a story about babies having their heads severed, though it is that. It is also a story about a place where, according to the grand jury, women were sent to give birth into toilets; where a doctor casually spread gonorrhea and chlamydiae to unsuspecting women through the reuse of cheap, disposable instruments; an office where a 15-year-old administered anesthesia; an office where former workers admit to playing games when giving patients powerful narcotics; an office where white women were attended to by a doctor and black women were pawned off on clueless untrained staffers. Any single one of those things would itself make for a blockbuster news story. Is it even conceivable that an optometrist who attended to his white patients in a clean office while an intern took care of the black patients in a filthy room wouldn't make national headlines?

But it isn't even solely a story of a rogue clinic that's awful in all sorts of sensational ways either. Multiple local and state agencies are implicated in an oversight failure that is epic in proportions! If I were a city editor for any Philadelphia newspaper the grand jury report would suggest a dozen major investigative projects I could undertake if I had the staff to support them. And I probably wouldn't have the staff. But there is so much fodder for additional reporting.

There is, finally, the fact that abortion, one of the most hotly contested, polarizing debates in the country, is at the center of this case. It arguably informs the abortion debate in any number of ways, and has numerous plausible implications for abortion policy, including the oversight and regulation of clinics, the appropriateness of late-term abortions, the penalties for failing to report abuses, the statute of limitations for killings like those with which Gosnell is charged, whether staff should be legally culpable for the bad behavior of doctors under whom they work...

There's just no end to it.

To sum up, this story has numerous elements any one of which would normally make it a major story. And setting aside conventions, which are flawed, this ought to be a big story on the merits.

The news value is undeniable.

Why isn't it being covered more? I've got my theories. But rather than offer them at the end of an already lengthy item, I'd like to survey some of the editors and writers making coverage decisions.

I'm normally very skeptical of claims regarding media bias, since they're usually little more than partisan trolling, but I have no idea why there isn't a media firestorm surrounding this trial.

We have several members who live in Philly. Have you guys heard anything about this?
 

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Disgusting.....

The reason there isn't a media firestorm is because it doesn't fit with the "my body, my choice" agenda.

But you kill a child with an AR??? It's all over the place.
 

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Lets hope the media steps up and puts aside their liberal agenda to report what this monster has done.
 

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live in PA and haven't even heard about this at all

Thank you. This baffles me.

I don't think the lack of coverage here can be explained away as "liberal media cover-up". There are angles to this story (class, race, etc.) that would be red meat for the Left as well.
 

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This story transcends politics. This is infanticide.

What bothers me is that "Kony 2012" blew up among young adults last year. And let's be honest, it was the newest social media fad that left people feeling good about themselves because they posted a link on facebook. But these atrocities happen in our own country! And the same 20 somethings that thought Josef Kony was such a terrible person don't give a rip.

The practice is abhorrent. The lack of outcry and media coverage is just as appalling.
 

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WARNING: This story will likely make you sick to your stomach, but I feel compelled to share it anyway.



I'm normally very skeptical of claims regarding media bias, since they're usually little more than partisan trolling, but I have no idea why there isn't a media firestorm surrounding this trial.

We have several members who live in Philly. Have you guys heard anything about this?

I believe the philadelphia inquirer has covered a bunch of it and a few articles have been written in the DC papers, but not much nationally.

The whole partial birth abortion thing is just nasty.
 

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This story transcends politics. This is infanticide.

What bothers me is that "Kony 2012" blew up among young adults last year. And let's be honest, it was the newest social media fad that left people feeling good about themselves because they posted a link on facebook. But these atrocities happen in our own country! And the same 20 somethings that thought Josef Kony was such a terrible person don't give a rip.

The practice is abhorrent. The lack of outcry and media coverage is just as appalling.

Great post. Save the kids....only when it fits your agenda.


There is really no other explanation for the lack of coverage..
 

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At a loss for word...sadness and anger fill me now for the world we live in. I will squeeze my children a lil harder tonight when I see them.
 
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I agree with everybody, this isn't abortion it is murder, this isn't about a political agenda, it is about class warfare and unspeakable horror.

The equipment used was so unclean, that patients got venereal diseases from them.

I probably won't come back to check this thread but I would appreciate it this doesn't become a political thread, or an I told you so thread, or a they deserved it thread. I couldn't take any more of that unchristian activity on top of this brutality.
 

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Murder is, by definition, the intentional taking of an innocent human life. Nothing scientifically changes about the baby because its head entered the birth canal. It was the exact same human being 10 minutes before. If you killed it then, when it was still fully in the mother, you are doing the EXACT same thing morally. Long story short: abortion is murder.

The only thing that changes in those few minutes and inches when the mother leaves its mother is the baby's legal rights under American law. The idea in America is that babies can be killed as long as they are in the mother's body. It has nothing to do with development. You can't legally kill a premie in the NICU no matter how dependent it is and how under-developed it is. Partial-birth abortion takes that theory to its logical, grizzly extreme: as long as its still partially inside mom, its fair game.

Most European nations don't allow third trimester abortions because its horific. It brings to light exactly what you are doing. Now I can understand how conceptually (not morally) one can differentiate between an abortion in the first few days or weeks of a pregnancy, when the person has no resemblemce to a developed baby. But there comes a point very early on that your action can only be described as tearing apart a baby. Where you can't help but know what you are doing. That is abortion. That is what partial-birth abortion brings to light: you are chopping up babies. Now you may think women have a right to do that, but call a spade a spade.
 

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Murder is, by definition, the intentional taking of an innocent human life. Nothing scientifically changes about the baby because its head entered the birth canal. It was the exact same human being 10 minutes before. If you killed it then, when it was still fully in the mother, you are doing the EXACT same thing morally. Long story short: abortion is murder.

The only thing that changes in those few minutes and inches when the mother leaves its mother is the baby's legal rights under American law. The idea in America is that babies can be killed as long as they are in the mother's body. It has nothing to do with development. You can't legally kill a premie in the NICU no matter how dependent it is and how under-developed it is. Partial-birth abortion takes that theory to its logical, grizzly extreme: as long as its still partially inside mom, its fair game.

Most European nations don't allow third trimester abortions because its horific. It brings to light exactly what you are doing. Now I can understand how conceptually (not morally) one can differentiate between an abortion in the first few days or weeks of a pregnancy, when the person has no resemblemce to a developed baby. But there comes a point very early on that your action can only be described as tearing apart a baby. Where you can't help but know what you are doing. That is abortion. That is what partial-birth abortion brings to light: you are chopping up babies. Now you may think women have a right to do that, but call a spade a spade.

They should just go ahead and admit it....They want the right to kill their children if they don't want them.
 

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Since we're on the subject...I really think it says something about our backwards society when serial killers have infinitely more due process rights than fetuses.
 

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It's a dnagerouse thing when people get too comfortable with their goverenment deciding which humans beings aren't full-fledged persons.
 

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Just as a conceptual question, are war combattants murderers? I sense that the arguments is that human beings should be defining their ability to kill other humans based off theyre feelings/needs, wouldnt war be another contradiction?

Morally Pro-life has the edge no doubt but realistically i think abortion should be available with a certain timeframe.
 

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I live in Philly and never heard anything about this. In fact, I just googled it and the only articles that pop up are about why its not getting more attention.
 
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Down here in the DC area, haven't heard anything about it. Asked my wife who is a stay at home mom right now and she said she hasn't heard about it until I pointed it out. She watches news regularly.
 

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Amazingly, some argue that killing babies like Gianna is morally permissible. Recently two bioethicists, Alberto Giubilini and Francesca Minerva, published a paper in the peer-reviewed Journal of Medical Ethics entitled “After-birth abortion: why should the baby live?” They wrote: “[W]hen circumstances occur after birth such that they would have justified abortion, what we call after-birth abortion should be permissible. … [W]e propose to call this practice ‘after-birth abortion’, rather than ‘infanticide,’ to emphasize that the moral status of the individual killed is comparable with that of a fetus … rather than to that of a child. Therefore, we claim that killing a newborn could be ethically permissible in all the circumstances where abortion would be. Such circumstances include cases where the newborn has the potential to have an (at least) acceptable life, but the well-being of the family is at risk.”

This is Orwellian. The term “after-birth abortion” is an oxymoron. You can’t kill an unborn child after it has been born.

Staggering. I'm also usually skeptical of "slippery slope" arguments, but this seems like the textbook definition.

The fact that Planned Parenthood aggressively lobbies against legislation requiring medical care for such children is appalling. The fact that a Planned Parenthood official testified that killing such children is permissible is shocking. And the fact that most major media outlets — including The Post — all but ignored her comments is distressing.

Our country is deeply divided over the question of abortion. But can we not all at least agree that killing a born child is murder — not a question that “should be left up to the woman, her family, and the physician”?

It's almost beyond belief that the question must be asked.
 

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Short (~20m) documentary on the place:

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Be warned. It's even harder to get through than the article.

More from AmCon:

[T]he failure to keep tabs on Gosnell’s clinic was apparently due to a political decision in 1993 not to inspect it. From the grand jury report:

"After 1993, even that pro forma effort [to inspect Gosnell's clinic and report its failings] came to an end. Not because of administrative ennui, although there had been plenty. Instead, the Pennsylvania Department of Health abruptly decided, for political reasons, to stop inspecting abortion clinics at all. The politics in question were not anti-abortion, but pro. With the change of administration from Governor Casey to Governor Ridge, officials concluded that inspections would be “putting a barrier up to women” seeking abortions."

In other words, it strongly suggests the absolutist pro-choice view that any regulation of abortion constitutes an infringement on reproductive rights led to the clinic not being overseen properly. All of these people had access to the grand jury report, even back in 2011. To ignore that and then make the case for why abortions should be more widespread and less regulated is incredibly dishonest.
 
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