BK stays at ND

[scUM Hater]

He isn't going anywhere. And if he does Charlie strong will definitely get a call.

Just trying to refresh my memory. Didn't we just have athread posted here about him covering up some fight in the locker room and then booting a kid in fear?

 

[anarin]

How's his recruiting class? Another Ty in my opinion. Once Harbaughs players are done so is Stanford.

Last years was a monster class by stanford standards. He isnt even close to ty...

 

[Domina Nostra]

Kelly's interview with Eagles indicates high standards for Irish - CBSSports.com

Article by Dennis Dodd for CBS where he basically says the reason BK is looking NFL is because he knows that what happened at ND this season was an anomaly and that he can't sustain success at ND. I wish I could've put this in italics.

Same holds true for Oregon and Penn State, I guess.

I can put that in italics!

 

[SoDakDomer]

The longer this thing drags on with no comment from Kelly, or continued contact with the eagles, the worse it gets for our recruits. The worst possible ending is obviously him taking the eagles job. Also him doing this and then going on vacation is ridiculous. All that good will Kelly had with the fans after going 12-0 is really being used up with this stunt. Here is to hoping he stays and confirms it quickly. Anyone else think this hurts with future classes? I can hear opposing coaches already using this against him "he's got one foot out the door at ND with an eye on the NFL, its only a matter of time." IMO no matter the result there has been damage done.

 

[koonja]

If BK thinks that season was an anomaly and that ND can't get back, then I'd definitely go if I were him.

 

[scUM Hater]

Last years was a monster class by stanford standards. He isnt even close to ty...

Yeah, unfair to campare anyone to Ty, my bad. They did have a nice class last year. I guess I will see how they are next year on the field and then the recruiting class for 2014. Just wouldn't want him as a coach at ND.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

ND is not going to pay Kelly more than top successful FBS coaches. The market is set at somewhere between $3-$5M.

The average pay for an NFL head coach is $3.25m. ND can definitely match that.

The NFL on the other hand has coaches like Bellichek making close to $10M in salary/compensation/perks.

Yes, the most successful active coach in the league makes that much. Not sure why you think that's relevant to Kelly.

If you are a very ambitious, successful coach with mutual interest between yourself and an NFL program wouldn't you consider the NFL?

If I had the chance to create a dynasty like Saban's or lose all security for a slightly higher compensation ceiling, I'd choose the former every time. It's so much easier to stay in top on CFB than in the NFL.

 

[PraetorianND]

Aside from those two reporters quoting an "anonymous source" (which is clearly Trace Armstrong), we've got nothing else. No word from anyone close to the Eagles, no details about when, where and how the meeting took place, etc. Just the bare minimum that an ambitious agent would want released for public consumption.



How do you define "well"? Flirting with Chip Kelly and Saban (neither of whom are going anywhere, btw)? Few college head coaches make the jump to the NFL, and even fewer find any sort of success there.



It all depends on what he considers to be the top rung of his personal ladder. He could make more money in the NFL, but he'd have less control and a lot less job security. Hard to compare them.



It's still a destination job today. Name me a coach that voluntarily left ND for a better gig. You can't, which would make Kelly the first. And yes, NFL coaching salaries have grown, but the salaries for top CFB coaches have grown apace. It's not the obvious next step you make it out to be.

This is the #1 question that none of us knows the answer to. I started a thread about BK to NFL awhile ago and everyone said I was crazy. I hope I am.

I wish we knew what he considers the pinnacle. It very well might not be ND and hell it may not even be the Eagles. He might want to leverage that to get the Cowboys and then take Goodell's job then a senator and then POTUS. Who knows.

I will not be shocked if he leaves. Disappointed yes, but shocked no.

 

[scUM Hater]

I want a poll started to vote on peoples opinion if Kelly stays or leaves. Allow no posting comments in it, just a poll. Can we do it?

 

[rikkitikki08]

Brian kelly isnt going anywhere, but with that being said it does still leave a bad taste in my mouth

 

[woolybug25]

I want a poll started to vote on peoples opinion if Kelly stays or leaves. Allow no posting comments in it, just a poll. Can we do it?

I think there is a better chance of me growing balls on my elbow...

 

[woolybug25]

Brian kelly isnt going anywhere, but with that being said it does still leave a bad taste in my mouth

That's what she said...

 

[scUM Hater]

I think there is a better chance of me growing balls on my elbow...

I wasn't sure if there was a option to have just a poll. Guess not.

 

[IrishinTN]

I firmly believe this is about getting his assistants paid.

 

[rtrn2glory]

just now talking about him on sportscenter

 

[Buster Bluth]

ND is not going to pay Kelly more than top successful FBS coaches. The market is set at somewhere between $3-$5M.

The NFL on the other hand has coaches like Bellichek making close to $10M in salary/compensation/perks.

If you are a very ambitious, successful coach with mutual interest between yourself and an NFL program wouldn't you consider the NFL?

Because college coaches have much longer tenures. If you can get in one of the top programs, you can more or less coast to 9+ wins and great job security. Bob Stoops, Pete Carroll, Jim Tressel, Mack Brown, Les Miles, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer etc etc all have/had great job security and only needed NCAA violations/coverups to ruin their gig. You don't get hat in the NFL. You get 1-4 seasons to make it, and the vast majority don't.

 

[Patulski]

ND is not going to pay Kelly more than top successful FBS coaches. The market is set at somewhere between $3-$5M.

Who said they should? I do think his ascension to being a BCS Championship game coach should put him in the Top 10%.

The NFL on the other hand has coaches like Bellichek making close to $10M in salary/compensation/perks.

If Philly pays Kelly Bellicick-type money, they are really, really stupid. Unlike Harbaugh, or Saban (who failed) Kelly has zero experience in the NFL at any level. Philly would be taking a monumental risk. I don't think Kelly's going there or anywhere.

If you are a very ambitious, successful coach with mutual interest between yourself and an NFL program wouldn't you consider the NFL?

Yes, particularly if money is your main object. If your main object is a legacy of success, you tread carefully because the NFL eats up inexperienced amateurs.

I also think a college AD at a top tier school should always be contacting other coaches through intermediaries for these type of situations. If Kelly is stupid enough to go, I hope Swarbrick is prepared.

Nevertheless, I suspect that the details of Kelly's raise and his continuation as Head Coach at ND are being negotiated by Swarbrick as we speak. I expect an announcement within 48 hours.

 

[rikkitikki08]

That's what she said...

zing

 

[woolybug25]

One bad year can easily get you fired in the NFL.

That's all I have to say about that...

 

[phgreek]

See you guys think that but there comes a point when the people simply say "no, we will not cut a check for $7mil/year when we're still paying Weis XYZ a year." There is no such thing in life as a blank check.

That's why it's hard to get everyone the piece of the pie they deserve right now... because there is a large man hoarding somewhere near 3 million of them as we speak.

what...we can't print money...that seems so UNFAIR...hehehe

yea, the thing about wealthy folks is, they didn't get that way w/o some discipline and common sense. They are wired to want to see utility ...EVEN IN CHARITY.

 

[Brown]

The average pay for an NFL head coach is $3.25m. ND can definitely match that.



Yes, the most successful active coach in the league makes that much. Not sure why you think that's relevant to Kelly.



If I had the chance to create a dynasty like Saban's or lose all security for a slightly higher compensation ceiling, I'd choose the former every time. It's so much easier to stay in top in CFB than in the NFL.

The compensation ceiling means everything, and it isn't "slight" it's almost 100% higher. The average NFL salary is comparable to what the best coaches in the FBS make.

When you are confident/successful you want to test your coaching ability against the best, job security be damned. Kelly's track record is full of these type of aggressive moves.

Kelly can ALWAYS fall back on another FBS opportunity, but his NFL stock may never be higher.

Also, ND has traditionally been a destination job, but it has been almost 20 years since we've had a coach anybody has really wanted to keep around. The NFL has grown into one of the most successful entertainment businesses on the planet, while ND has materialized into a perennial under achiever.

Again, I'm not suggesting that Kelly is leaving to the NFL. But it isn't hard to find some legitimate reasons why it may be the next step in his career.

 

[Brown]

One bad year can easily get you fired in the NFL.

That's all I have to say about that...

Yes, but he will ALWAYS have his FBS resume to fall back on. On the other hand, he may never get another legitimate NFL opportunity, let alone with a traditionally-excellent NFL franchise like the Eagles or Bears.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

There was this former player, forget his name, but he had a worse week than most can fathom with personal tragedy, and his response was:

"WHAT MAKES YOU A MAN IS WHAT YOU DO WHEN THAT STORM COMES."

*The storm is here. Lets see how many men this board has, and how many meltdown in the face of our worst fears/adversity.


Go Irish, (all is well lol)

 

[Irish YJ]

 

[scUM Hater]

wrong thread

 

[Grahambo]

* The NFL has been tapping into the FBS-well all off-season looking for the next Jim Harbaugh.

Jim Harbaugh is a bad example. He played in the NFL from 1987-2000 and became an assistant coach with the Oakland Raiders for two years in the 2002 and 2003 seasons before becoming head coach at the University of San Diego. Not to mention his brother has been in the NFL for years.

BK has no connection to the NFL in anyway and that was hinted as much by a sports reporter whose name escapes me. BK would be a terrible hire for the Eagles for that very reason.

Saban lasted two seasons with the Dolphins and reports had it that he didn't even want to go to the NFL. Regardless, he also was a DC in the NFL too.

Pete Carroll had a lot of previous NFL experience.

Even Greg Schiano spent a few years in the NFL.

Bills recently hired Doug Marrone...has previous NFL coaching experience.

My point is that the NFL does not hire a guy with zero ties to the NFL to be a head coach, especially a team like the Eagles who need a good hire like Lovie Smith. All these guys have some connection to the NFL in some coaching capacity. BK has none.

 

[rikkitikki08]

I really do believe he stays at ND......but with that being said whatever happens I WILL SUPPORT ND UNTIL MY TIME IS UP ON THIS EARTH.

GO IRISH

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

So when is Coach Kelly supposed to return from "out of the country?" Can't wait.

 

[Rhode Irish]

The weirdness of BK lacking a real connection to any coaching tree hurts him with regard to a NFL jump. Can't think of another guy who got to the level he is at all by himself. It's very unique how isolated he is from the rest of the coaching world.

 

[rikkitikki08]

All im saying is ESPN basically confirmed chip kelly was going to the NFL......just sayin