'13 NJ DE Alquadin Muhammad (Miami Verbal)

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I know this sounds greedy, but IMO AQM >>>>>> Hollins/Terrodney. I love his height (no homo) and he seems most capable to play DE as well as OLB. He's like Ishaq only probably more athletic as a high-schooler.
 
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AQM is elite IMO, those guys would be solid... Hurts missing out on AQM
 

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If that's true, isn't that something that could be resolved in the winter semester and/or summer school?

Moreover, how does this situation (missing course A or course B for ND) just come up in January/ February when ND becomes involved with kids for several months?
 

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Moreover, how does this situation (missing course A or course B for ND) just come up in January/ February when ND becomes involved with kids for several months?

What I'm gathering--and this is just an inference--is that ND doesn't really look at a kid's academics until he submits paperwork to take an official visit. I guess the rationale is that that's the time when you know that the kid's interest is actually serious. Because of Bosco's tradition of not taking visits during the season, AQM didn't attempt to schedule a visit until the last few weeks. That's why it was only then that the academic issue became apparent.
 

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What I'm gathering--and this is just an inference--is that ND doesn't really look at a kid's academics until he submits paperwork to take an official visit. I guess the rationale is that that's the time when you know that the kid's interest is actually serious. Because of Bosco's tradition of not taking visits during the season, AQM didn't attempt to schedule a visit until the last few weeks. That's why it was only then that the academic issue became apparent.

Seems like a pretty solid theory. I think the failure here is on behalf of his academic advisors- the ones who are paid to sit down with this kid and make sure all his affairs are in order regarding his academic future. You can tell me he never had a conversation with them about ND. If he didn't, again- shame on them.
 

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With Doug Randolph already in the fold I don't see how we could take 2 more. 3 prospects at CAT in one class is too much. I think ND has just got to take which ever one of the 3 left bites first and thats it.

Some analysts on 247 have said that on the basis of his performances in practice this week his best fit might be inside though he could probably play any of the four positions.
 

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My wild guess is that whether a class counts as a "core" course requirement can be very gray in some instances because the actual curriculum of a high school class varies significantly from one place to the next. Admissions probably has to dig deep into a class syllabus to give a final determination. Consequently, the prospective student may have to do some extra credit type of things to cover any gaps which is why this stuff can get dragged out over time. Or at least I hope so as that would make these situations fixable provided the student is sufficiently motivated.
 

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My wild guess is that whether a class counts as a "core" course requirement can be very gray in some instances because the actual curriculum of a high school class varies significantly from one place to the next. Admissions probably has to dig deep into a class syllabus to give a final determination. Consequently, the prospective student may have to do some extra credit type of things to cover any gaps which is why this stuff can get dragged out over time. Or at least I hope so as that would make these situations fixable provided the student is sufficiently motivated.


This isn't Don Bosco Prep first ND experience. They should know what the heck you need.
 

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What I'm gathering--and this is just an inference--is that ND doesn't really look at a kid's academics until he submits paperwork to take an official visit. I guess the rationale is that that's the time when you know that the kid's interest is actually serious. Because of Bosco's tradition of not taking visits during the season, AQM didn't attempt to schedule a visit until the last few weeks. That's why it was only then that the academic issue became apparent.

Sounds plausible, but since the staff has essentially been saving a spot for AQM for many months now, you'd think they might check into that sooner than later.
 

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Sounds plausible, but since the staff has essentially been saving a spot for AQM for many months now, you'd think they might check into that sooner than later.

Yep, might be time to rethink that procedure, I agree.
 

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Yep, might be time to rethink that procedure, I agree.

It would be astonishing to find out that the coaching staff doesn't give players they offer a list of prerequisites for getting accepted into the school. Furthermore, when they speak to them, ask how they are doing on that list. That's not scientific by any means, but it would certainly handle the questions of whether a kid has taken a class or not.

If it is something to do with Bosco in particular, then something needs to give. This is costing their students an opportunity for world class education. There should be no excuse.
 

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Some analysts on 247 have said that on the basis of his performances in practice this week his best fit might be inside though he could probably play any of the four positions.

I hope so. Seems as if after Fox leaves, we don't have much depth at the Will position opposite Anzalone at the Mike.
 

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I hope so but that is looking increasingly unlikely.

In the Prevot thread DomeLover and Ironman, two guys with Bosco connex, are saying that AQM is missing required coursework because of his transfer. That seems like a pretty serious issue and not a quick fix.

I know the staff hasn't given up completely but I am a little pessimistic now.

Also what I heard. The problem stems from his time at Patterson Catholic which closed its doors two years ago. But I'll be thrilled to get Prevot. Like his length and upside more than Hollins.
 

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I really hate how this is sounding. Sometimes things just don't work out, but I'm still holding out hope come Signing Day he's a Domer! AQM is straight up too good to not make this work. Do it the right way of coarse, but get it done!
 

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I highly doubt that it's a core class problem, not picking on anybody's thoughts, but ND asks for kids transcripts early on in the process to find out, not only grades, but what classes have been taken. The coaches know what classes a recruit needs to have in order to qualify for admissions. They speak with HS coaches and guidance counselors about recruits and whether or not said recruit is going to be able to handle the workload at ND.
 

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it just flat out sucks if we don't land this dude...all i'm saying i've loved him forever.
 

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Sounds plausible, but since the staff has essentially been saving a spot for AQM for many months now, you'd think they might check into that sooner than later.

I was getting ready to say the same thing after reading the rest of the posts. If this is true, there has to be some responsibility put on the Irish staff. OCI makes a really good point. I guess I'll just wait and see what happens.
 
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I highly doubt that it's a core class problem, not picking on anybody's thoughts, but ND asks for kids transcripts early on in the process to find out, not only grades, but what classes have been taken. The coaches know what classes a recruit needs to have in order to qualify for admissions. They speak with HS coaches and guidance counselors about recruits and whether or not said recruit is going to be able to handle the workload at ND.

I'm with you on this one. Something isn't adding up... It took ND a year to figure out that the classes he took 2 years ago aren't any good??
 

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I'm not buying this whole core class stuff (I want another s word because I think still whole transcript core class stuff is just that).

Who's to say AQM just flat out doesn't have the GPA? 1st semester of high school usually ends in January a few after returning from holiday break. I think he is hoping he did well enough to raise his GPA.

This is me pulling crap out of my a$$ but it is what I think. I'm probably wrong but I just aint buying this core course stuff.
 

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I highly doubt that it's a core class problem, not picking on anybody's thoughts, but ND asks for kids transcripts early on in the process to find out, not only grades, but what classes have been taken.

They certainly do an initial check-up of some kind. LaRue's offer, for instance, has always been only conditional based on academic issues, ever since June, I believe. I don't know whether someone actually reviews the kids' transcripts at an early stage though.

The coaches know what classes a recruit needs to have in order to qualify for admissions.

I doubt that. I imagine they rely on admissions for that. They may make an initial investigation, but I'm not sure how formal it is (see below).

They speak with HS coaches and guidance counselors about recruits and whether or not said recruit is going to be able to handle the workload at ND.

I'm 100% certain they do, but I doubt how formal this part of the process is. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that it's basically, "Is his GPA decent? Is he taking a college-prep curriculum?" The guidance counselors probably praise their students effusively, tell the coaches that they are great kids and hard workers, and the coaches don't look into it further until the kids start planning an official visit to ND. You could see how something could be overlooked.

But this is all theoretical. Who knows what happened here.
 
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Can we pull an SEC and stash him in Jr. College for a year? Stash him at holy cross (Rudy) or something.
 

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I'm not buying this whole core class stuff (I want another s word because I think still whole transcript core class stuff is just that).

Who's to say AQM just flat out doesn't have the GPA? 1st semester of high school usually ends in January a few after returning from holiday break. I think he is hoping he did well enough to raise his GPA.

This is me pulling crap out of my a$$ but it is what I think. I'm probably wrong but I just aint buying this core course stuff.

It's exactly that.

Why can't you buy the idea that he doesn't have a core credit?
 

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.......They speak with HS coaches and guidance counselors about recruits and whether or not said recruit is going to be able to handle the workload at ND.

FWIW, I can confirm that other coaches speak to guidance counselors. I work for a school district in position where I have been to just about any and every district location. One time I was at MLK High School, in a counselors office, and on the wall was a note pinned to a corkboard that said "Bo Pelini" and a cell phone number written underneath it (i did a double-take when I saw it). I never knew who they were recruting at King, but it was around the same time that Nebraska pulled Taylor Martinez from Corona Centiennial which is just down the 91 freeway, about 15mins from MLK.
 
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It's exactly that.

Why can't you buy the idea that he doesn't have a core credit?

Cause any idiot can go onto the ND website. Go under admissions and figure what the heck you need to be admitted.

Evaluation Criteria // Admissions // University of Notre Dame

Yes I probably am pulling stuff out my rear end but if that is true than alot of folks had their heads up their rear ends.

If it really is a corse credit that means then this kid, his parent(s), Don Bosco Prep, and his Notre Dame recruiter(s) all dropped the ball on this. Of the group of folks I mentioned I believe that there at least 1 person that isn't a complete idiot that would have figured out he needed a course credit. If the issue really is a course credit then a lot of people must been really stupid not planning ahead on this.
 
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If it really is a corse credit that means then this kid, his parent(s), Don Bosco Prep, and his Notre Dame recruiter(s) all dropped the ball on this. Of the group of folks I mentioned I believe that there at least 1 person that isn't a complete idiot that would have figured out he needed a course credit. If the issue really is a course credit then a lot of people must been really stupid not planning ahead on this.

Maybe took a prerequisite last semester, but didn't receive a passing grade. Who knows? It really could be any number of things. These issues do happen and I'm sure the football staff does as much as possible to prevent their occurrence.
 
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