'13 NJ DE Alquadin Muhammad (Miami Verbal)

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Generally, when a recruit "still has work to do" before they can commit, it either means: (1) he's missing some required coursework (often a foreign language class); or (2) he needs to pull up his GPA. (1) is bad, but (2) is worse.

From what I've gathered, (1) is much more likely than (2) in this case. So take some solace in that fact, but ND's chances of closing typically plummet whenever a transcript issue arises, no matter how small.

Yeah. The frustrating thing is, Bosco's a top-quality school that sends lots of kids on to major college ball, including Shumate (and Ryan Grant, IIRC). You like to think their folks and ours and young Mr. Muhammed could all stay on the same page with this stuff. It's not like he just popped up on the radar last week.
 

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It definitely seems as tho it's a fixable problem. Which is a better place to be versus the position Jamel James was in. This one seems to have a visible solution.
 

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Yeah. The frustrating thing is, Bosco's a top-quality school that sends lots of kids on to major college ball, including Shumate (and Ryan Grant, IIRC). You like to think their folks and ours and young Mr. Muhammed could all stay on the same page with this stuff. It's not like he just popped up on the radar last week.

I was similarly frustrated when news of his compromised status first broke, but there are several possible scenarios that don't involve someone at DB or on our staff dropping the ball. For instance, as Emcee77 suggests, he could be working on the required foreign language credits right now. If his grades in that class have recently started to slip to the point that he may not pass it, that's not something anyone at DB or ND could have addressed through anticipation or improved communication.
 

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Generally, when a recruit "still has work to do" before they can commit, it either means: (1) he's missing some required coursework (often a foreign language class); or (2) he needs to pull up his GPA. (1) is bad, but (2) is worse.

From what I've gathered, (1) is much more likely than (2) in this case. So take some solace in that fact, but ND's chances of closing typically plummet whenever a transcript issue arises, no matter how small.

Actually heard it was Door #3... test scores. That could be total BS though. I really have no idea. Something along the lines of getting them in the next couple weeks and then getting cleared by admissions.
 

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Actually heard it was Door #3... test scores. That could be total BS though. I really have no idea. Something along the lines of getting them in the next couple weeks and then getting cleared by admissions.

Pls God not another Tee situation.
 

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Look at it this way: if Alquadin takes care of the "issue" during the next few weeks, then he will have shown himself capable of rising above academic hurdles and that bodes well for his chances of success at Notre Dame. If he can't overcome the obstacle (and it seems highly likely that it is one of the academic issues suggested earlier in this thread), then it is unlikely he would have been successful academically at ND anyway.

From everything I have read and heard about AQM, I believe he wants to come to ND badly. Furthermore, I think it is highly likely that he applies himself and qualifies in the end. Maybe I hold these opinions because I want this player. But I still am confident that he qualifies and comes to ND.
 

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Look at it this way: if Alquadin takes care of the "issue" during the next few weeks, then he will have shown himself capable of rising above academic hurdles and that bodes well for his chances of success at Notre Dame. If he can't overcome the obstacle (and it seems highly likely that it is one of the academic issues suggested earlier in this thread), then it is unlikely he would have been successful academically at ND anyway.

From everything I have read and heard about AQM, I believe he wants to come to ND badly. Furthermore, I think it is highly likely that he applies himself and qualifies in the end. Maybe I hold these opinions because I want this player. But I still am confident that he qualifies and comes to ND.

Unlike in years past, we have contingency plans (Hollins and Prevot) if we whiff. I'm not worried either way. We'll end up with one of the three or Vanderdoes IMO.
 

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If we were to miss on AQM, i feel really good about hollins. We r 50/50 without him even visiting.
 
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We're going to get a great OLB/DE to finish the class, I just hope it's AQM over the other two. I love tall OLBs.
 

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Look at it this way: if Alquadin takes care of the "issue" during the next few weeks, then he will have shown himself capable of rising above academic hurdles and that bodes well for his chances of success at Notre Dame. If he can't overcome the obstacle (and it seems highly likely that it is one of the academic issues suggested earlier in this thread), then it is unlikely he would have been successful academically at ND anyway.

From everything I have read and heard about AQM, I believe he wants to come to ND badly. Furthermore, I think it is highly likely that he applies himself and qualifies in the end. Maybe I hold these opinions because I want this player. But I still am confident that he qualifies and comes to ND.

Talk about a self-fulfilling prophecy...

We're going to get a great OLB/DE to finish the class, I just hope it's AQM over the other two. I love tall OLBs.

This.
 

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If we were to miss on AQM, i feel really good about hollins. We r 50/50 without him even visiting.

particularly with UCLA getting drubbed last night, also any Bruins fan who thinks Mora will stick around once any nfl team comes calling is in dream land..
 

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If he took the ACT on December 8th, he should be able to get his results now. If it's a test score thing, they already know. The next test is in February.
 

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I would not be surprised to learn that everyone of any importance in this story has known about the "getting something done" issue or issues for a very long time, and it's been agreed by all of them that it's none of our business.

Whatever the "plan" has been to hurdle everything is going on with open exchange between AQM and ND, but until it manifests, AQM cannot commit [or certainly doesn't want to and then put himself in a potentially embarrassing position], and this could play in the very silent public situation and the late date of announcement concept.

I see nothing necessarily in this which tells me that all the relevant parties are not fully informed and have been, essentially, forever, and that ND is very interested in AQM and is "waiting" for him.
 

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If he took the ACT on December 8th, he should be able to get his results now. If it's a test score thing, they already know. The next test is in February.

Dunno if it was ACT or SAT or what but I heard he would get the scores back before the Army AA game and have time to submit it all to ND (along with semester grades) if he wanted to... such that things could be cleared up by the all-star game. We'll see. I'm never confident in this kind of crap getting worked out... far more often than not it doesn't.
 

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Dunno if it was ACT or SAT or what but I heard he would get the scores back before the Army AA game and have time to submit it all to ND (along with semester grades) if he wanted to... such that things could be cleared up by the all-star game. We'll see. I'm never confident in this kind of crap getting worked out... far more often than not it doesn't.

Well, sounds like we'll know in about a week then. Though if we don't, I guess that would be a bad sign, no?
 

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Well, sounds like we'll know in about a week then. Though if we don't, I guess that would be a bad sign, no?

I don't know if it necessarily be a super-bad sign but it sure wouldn't be good. I think we'll know one way or another for sure sometime in mid-January.
 

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i think his decision on whether to announce at the army game next week will tell for sure how much we should worry about this. if he's announcing, all is well :)....if he cancels, then that does not bode well.
 

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It definitely seems as tho it's a fixable problem. Which is a better place to be versus the position Jamel James was in. This one seems to have a visible solution.

It's more easily fixable if it's a language course or grade. It's much tougher to raise the GPA itself with one course.
 

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I would not be surprised to learn that everyone of any importance in this story has known about the "getting something done" issue or issues for a very long time, and it's been agreed by all of them that it's none of our business.

Whatever the "plan" has been to hurdle everything is going on with open exchange between AQM and ND, but until it manifests, AQM cannot commit [or certainly doesn't want to and then put himself in a potentially embarrassing position], and this could play in the very silent public situation and the late date of announcement concept.

I see nothing necessarily in this which tells me that all the relevant parties are not fully informed and have been, essentially, forever, and that ND is very interested in AQM and is "waiting" for him.


I agree. You have to believe both parties are well aware of everything and whatever little support ND can provide is being given.
 

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As far as the transcript situation, one has think that ND would have taken a pass at AQM if they thought it was an issue that could not be resolved. The fact that we hear both parties are still interested leads me to think that it is a workable problem.

....Then again what do I know?
 
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As far as the transcript situation, one as think that ND would have taken a pass at AQM if thought it was an issue that could not be resolved. The fact that we hear both parties are still interested leads me to think that it is a workable problem.

....Then again what do I know?

that is my thinking as well, but with shades of anthony standifer and tee still fresh in my mind, it's hard to be very optimisitc...just gotta hope it works out for the best. love this kid's upside and he'll look awesome in the blue and gold if we can get em!!!!
 

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As far as the transcript situation, one has think that ND would have taken a pass at AQM if they thought it was an issue that could not be resolved. The fact that we hear both parties are still interested leads me to think that it is a workable problem.

....Then again what do I know?

I agree. The fact that we are still recruiting him gives me hope. If things were really bad, we'd part ways as with Jamel James.
 

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that is my thinking as well, but with shades of anthony standifer and tee still fresh in my mind, it's hard to be very optimisitc...just gotta hope it works out for the best. love this kid's upside and he'll look awesome in the blue and gold if we can get em!!!!

I would have to think that the staff learned from this last year and won't let it happen again. Besides, he's not expected to be an EE like Tee is he?
 

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Hi guys,

Miami guy here from over ar SBnation and TheRinger. Just wanted to come maybe shed a little but of light on AQM from our side to help maybe clear up some things I was reading.

I saw various different issues mentioned, from grades to transcripts, to test scores.

While ND does have stricter academic standards that Miami, they are clearly not night and day by any means as Miami has dealt with losing recruits to academic issues for awhile now. Generally speaking Miami, does not people come on official visits unless they know there is a pretty decent chance that we can get him into school here (See the recently cancelled visits of Lavon Hooks and Angelo Jean Louis who both had grade issues and ended up at fine academic institutions in Ole Miss and Marshall). Miami obviously brought AQM on a visit which means that they are comfortable with his grades and scores. While not impossible, it is unlikely that he has the grades and scores to get into Miami but not ND.

Where things get a little more hairy is in the transcript issues. You are obviously talking about the 2 of the most unique schools in the country and each has their own coursework requirements and such. It's entirely possible that he could have taken the required coursework for Miami but not for ND. It's not necessarily a death sentence for ND but it is very rare to correct at this stage. Even if he managed an online course to fix it. Those are exactly the types of courses the NCAA flags when they review paperwork.

I don't know the exact situation but that is my strong hunch ATM. If I was a betting man, I'd bet transcripts before grades or scores.

With all that said, I also heard that the grades are being blown up a little and that there is more to the story that is behind the scenes. The kid is obviously very private but apparently his heart wants ND but something getting in the way is pushing him elsewhere (with Miami getting the benefits).

I don't know how it will work out. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he picks Miami, but I'm not counting on it. I'm still feeling ND has the best shot to get their hat chosen and they'll do their best to try to resolve the issues.

I will say tho, I agree with someone on here that mentioned this. The longer it drags, the worse it gets for ND. If its easily fixable, it shouldn't take too long on such a high priority kid.
 

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Hi guys,

Miami guy here from over ar SBnation and TheRinger. Just wanted to come maybe shed a little but of light on AQM from our side to help maybe clear up some things I was reading.

I saw various different issues mentioned, from grades to transcripts, to test scores.

While ND does have stricter academic standards that Miami, they are clearly not night and day by any means as Miami has dealt with losing recruits to academic issues for awhile now. Generally speaking Miami, does not people come on official visits unless they know there is a pretty decent chance that we can get him into school here (See the recently cancelled visits of Lavon Hooks and Angelo Jean Louis who both had grade issues and ended up at fine academic institutions in Ole Miss and Marshall). Miami obviously brought AQM on a visit which means that they are comfortable with his grades and scores. While not impossible, it is unlikely that he has the grades and scores to get into Miami but not ND.

Where things get a little more hairy is in the transcript issues. You are obviously talking about the 2 of the most unique schools in the country and each has their own coursework requirements and such. It's entirely possible that he could have taken the required coursework for Miami but not for ND. It's not necessarily a death sentence for ND but it is very rare to correct at this stage. Even if he managed an online course to fix it. Those are exactly the types of courses the NCAA flags when they review paperwork.

I don't know the exact situation but that is my strong hunch ATM. If I was a betting man, I'd bet transcripts before grades or scores.

With all that said, I also heard that the grades are being blown up a little and that there is more to the story that is behind the scenes. The kid is obviously very private but apparently his heart wants ND but something getting in the way is pushing him elsewhere (with Miami getting the benefits).

I don't know how it will work out. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he picks Miami, but I'm not counting on it. I'm still feeling ND has the best shot to get their hat chosen and they'll do their best to try to resolve the issues.

I will say tho, I agree with someone on here that mentioned this. The longer it drags, the worse it gets for ND. If its easily fixable, it shouldn't take too long on such a high priority kid.

I do agree with this part. But we do have other players that we can get to fill his spot.
 

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Hi guys,

Miami guy here from over ar SBnation and TheRinger. Just wanted to come maybe shed a little but of light on AQM from our side to help maybe clear up some things I was reading.

I saw various different issues mentioned, from grades to transcripts, to test scores.

While ND does have stricter academic standards that Miami, they are clearly not night and day by any means as Miami has dealt with losing recruits to academic issues for awhile now. Generally speaking Miami, does not people come on official visits unless they know there is a pretty decent chance that we can get him into school here (See the recently cancelled visits of Lavon Hooks and Angelo Jean Louis who both had grade issues and ended up at fine academic institutions in Ole Miss and Marshall). Miami obviously brought AQM on a visit which means that they are comfortable with his grades and scores. While not impossible, it is unlikely that he has the grades and scores to get into Miami but not ND.

Where things get a little more hairy is in the transcript issues. You are obviously talking about the 2 of the most unique schools in the country and each has their own coursework requirements and such. It's entirely possible that he could have taken the required coursework for Miami but not for ND. It's not necessarily a death sentence for ND but it is very rare to correct at this stage. Even if he managed an online course to fix it. Those are exactly the types of courses the NCAA flags when they review paperwork.

I don't know the exact situation but that is my strong hunch ATM. If I was a betting man, I'd bet transcripts before grades or scores.

With all that said, I also heard that the grades are being blown up a little and that there is more to the story that is behind the scenes. The kid is obviously very private but apparently his heart wants ND but something getting in the way is pushing him elsewhere (with Miami getting the benefits).

I don't know how it will work out. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he picks Miami, but I'm not counting on it. I'm still feeling ND has the best shot to get their hat chosen and they'll do their best to try to resolve the issues.

I will say tho, I agree with someone on here that mentioned this. The longer it drags, the worse it gets for ND. If its easily fixable, it shouldn't take too long on such a high priority kid.

Thanks for the post. I think the worry is about the language requirement at ND. Recruits have run into this barrier before. What (if any) language requirements does Miami have?
 
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Hi guys,

Miami guy here from over ar SBnation and TheRinger. Just wanted to come maybe shed a little but of light on AQM from our side to help maybe clear up some things I was reading.

I saw various different issues mentioned, from grades to transcripts, to test scores.

While ND does have stricter academic standards that Miami, they are clearly not night and day by any means as Miami has dealt with losing recruits to academic issues for awhile now. Generally speaking Miami, does not people come on official visits unless they know there is a pretty decent chance that we can get him into school here (See the recently cancelled visits of Lavon Hooks and Angelo Jean Louis who both had grade issues and ended up at fine academic institutions in Ole Miss and Marshall). Miami obviously brought AQM on a visit which means that they are comfortable with his grades and scores. While not impossible, it is unlikely that he has the grades and scores to get into Miami but not ND.

Where things get a little more hairy is in the transcript issues. You are obviously talking about the 2 of the most unique schools in the country and each has their own coursework requirements and such. It's entirely possible that he could have taken the required coursework for Miami but not for ND. It's not necessarily a death sentence for ND but it is very rare to correct at this stage. Even if he managed an online course to fix it. Those are exactly the types of courses the NCAA flags when they review paperwork.

I don't know the exact situation but that is my strong hunch ATM. If I was a betting man, I'd bet transcripts before grades or scores.

With all that said, I also heard that the grades are being blown up a little and that there is more to the story that is behind the scenes. The kid is obviously very private but apparently his heart wants ND but something getting in the way is pushing him elsewhere (with Miami getting the benefits).

I don't know how it will work out. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he picks Miami, but I'm not counting on it. I'm still feeling ND has the best shot to get their hat chosen and they'll do their best to try to resolve the issues.

I will say tho, I agree with someone on here that mentioned this. The longer it drags, the worse it gets for ND. If its easily fixable, it shouldn't take too long on such a high priority kid.


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