There's a lot of Gerry Faust in Brian Kelly/NFL Thread

dmort

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At the end of the day the players have to execute. Execution is getting better.At least ND didnt have trouble getting 11 guys on the field.
 

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But there are a bunch of people in this, and other threads, who are going to look like total imbeciles, if BK reports this week that George Atkinson was not physically 100% for this game, and that limited his touches.

Nah. They'll just find something else to grumble about (why not Davonte Neal!?!)
 

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I got one question for all the haters? IF not BK, then who?! Gimme a couple of names that you would suggest...who would be real/worthwhile possibilities of actually getting?! I can't come up with one!?
 

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Can we at least wait til we at least lose a game to start the Kelly bashing threads this year? We just beat a solid Purdue team, in the kind of game we probably wouldn't have won in the past. We got made one dimensional on offense, and we still figured out a way to pull one out w passing and defense. That would actually be considered pretty good coaching when your team can win a game without the run. Not to mention all the injuries.
 

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When we blow out Navy, we are going all the way. When we win a tight game, that we would have lost a few years ago, we aren't good enough. Some of you guys just don't live in reality.
 

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1. He's not compromising standards, yet hes still trying to get bubble kids a chance.
2. He ain't cheatin' - Urban wouldn't come because they wouldn't let him cheat.
3. He's willing to adapt to what the kids want, yet without totally going over board and messing with tradition
4. He's running a hell of a lot tighter ship that Weis was running. They actually have players who like each other and get along.
5. He's slowly building up depth that was sooo depleted at ND
6. He's a proven winner at all levels, give him time-we are starting a freshman qb
7. As soon as NCAA cleans up this mess they have going on(which it hopefully looks like its trying to do), we'll be a contender year in and year out again.
 

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When we blow out Navy, we are going all the way. When we win a tight game, that we would have lost a few years ago, we aren't good enough. Some of you guys just don't live in reality.

It's Retard City, and EVERYONE is bucking to be the Mayor. :wink:
 

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Think op is off-base, but I do agree that Kelly's failure to shape a real offensive identity for this team is puzzling.
 

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Think op is off-base, but I do agree that Kelly's failure to shape a real offensive identity for this team is puzzling.

Why? This is the first year that we have started a true running threat QB and we are just 2 games into it. Talk to me at the end of the year or sometime next year and then if we don't have a consistent offensive identity I will be puzzled.
 

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Think op is off-base, but I do agree that Kelly's failure to shape a real offensive identity for this team is puzzling.

We do have an offensive identity; we take advantage of opponents' weaknesses. That's what the 2 TE sets were installed for this summer. When we play an undersized front 7 like navy, we line up in 2 TE's and run all over them. When we play a team with a big, nasty d-line, we run 4 wide spread and toss the ball around. The thing with Purdue's defense is that they sold out to stop the run, but they also had corners that can handle themselves 1 on 1. Fortunately, Kelly didn't try to pound it down their throats and he didn't try to make Golson beat their CB's with amazing throws. He called passing plays that called for mismatches or easy throws for our young qb. I'd call that pretty smart coaching.
 

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WE WON THE ****ING GAME!!!!!!! EVERYONE QUIT YOUR BITCHING AND RELISH THE WIN! My God, this is getting tiring.
 
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I'm going to guess that Kelly and Company (the other coaches) are probably more informed than you, re: George Atkinson's gamebreaking potential vs. other players' gamebreaking potential. That being said........ I'm not sure why he didn't get more touches, either. But there are a bunch of people in this, and other threads, who are going to look like total imbeciles, if BK reports this week that George Atkinson was not physically 100% for this game, and that limited his touches.

I was screaming at the TV all game to put Atkinson in, but as I read this thread I seem to recall an interview with Kelly during the week that Atkinson was dinged up. I sure hope so though because he needs to get min. 10 touches.

I do have to admit I cannot stand the team looking over at the sideline to get the plays before every snap. I don't see Oregon doing this and if they do it is for a half second.
 

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And so the procession of ridiculous "the sky is falling" threads after anything but a blowout win begins. Buckle up boys, this is the first of many we will see (after wins no less).
 

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I like this board better in the offseason. Once the season starts people come out of the woodwork to use this board as the dumping ground for their own neuroses. I'm tired of the same people who are asking who number such and such is also going off about the game planning, the touches, the play calling, etc., and calling for the coach to be fired. There are a lot of really smart football people on this board whose opinion I respect a lot, and I have yet to see them behave this way during or after a win, especially against a bowl bound B1G team that has been mentioned as a contender in it's division. Half the other ranked teams played patsies this week, and some of them even lost. Who the hell are we all of a sudden to have a collective breakdown because we didn't blow out a pretty good team at home?

I'll be the first to say that I thought we'd handle Purdue easier, but that's why they play the games. At least this one goes on the right side of the ledger. There are going to be some games every year that could go either way. It's better to win them. Purdue is a good team; a bunch of things went wrong with injuries; it was a weird week with the previous game and Ireland; etc., etc. And we won a game in which we never trailed. Some of you guys are embarrassing yourselves with your whining.
 

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Almost every spread offense does that.

The annoying thing is the level of detail that is needed though. Oregon gives a signal based on field position, down, and distance and then the QB makes the decision as to which option to go with based on the look that the defense gives him. The problem is that EG can't do this yet. So we get the original signal, which puts us into formation, then EG gets under center, then he backs up, so that the coaches who saw the defense can tell him what to do and what to tell the line for their protection package, then he gets back under center, then he snaps the ball. I hope Golson gets to where he can actually read the D himself, because what we did today won't work in a hostile East Lansing. It's going to be an issue all year.
 

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I guess one thing I don't understand is why the AD didn't read the IE message boards when we were searching for a head coach? Clearly there are many, many qualified candidates on here.

Yep, I just quoted myself from a different thread. It fits just as well here.
 

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The annoying thing is the level of detail that is needed though. Oregon gives a signal based on field position, down, and distance and then the QB makes the decision as to which option to go with based on the look that the defense gives him. The problem is that EG can't do this yet. So we get the original signal, which puts us into formation, then EG gets under center, then he backs up, so that the coaches who saw the defense can tell him what to do and what to tell the line for their protection package, then he gets back under center, then he snaps the ball. I hope Golson gets to where he can actually read the D himself, because what we did today won't work in a hostile East Lansing. It's going to be an issue all year.

It usually is an issue with a newbie QB. Particularly one playing without the benefit of a 1,000 yd rusher and a 1,000 yd receiver.
 

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It usually is an issue with a newbie QB. Particularly one playing without the benefit of a 1,000 yd rusher and a 1,000 yd receiver.

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So last week we scheme for Navy and play the run and our secondary gets beat a few times and we have people super worried about the secondary. This week, Purdue schemes to completely shut down the run and make a redshirt freshman QB beat them, which happens, and people are freaked about that and comparing BK to GF. Okay. We should take bets on what next week's freak out will be.

This is obvious to some, but gameplans change from week to week. A good coach is someone who deals with those changes and wins. 2 AND 0.
 

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First, I have read a couple of times in the threads that this was a game we wouldn't have won last year. That's what we said about those disgusting wins over Pitt and BC last year. Second, I'm not too angry about this since it is a W and because we were without so many of our star players. Third, I thought Rees looked just as awful as always, and don't see what he did that was so amazing. I really hope Kelly wasn't lying about EG's injury just to get the media off of his back. Fourth, and most annoying to me, is how terrible our special teams are. What the hell is so freaking hard about having a punt return unit? Why do we send six guys to block the kick, only to watch them stand around by the blockers? Why not have them block for the returner?
 
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Stop posting, your input is as good as my cats hairballs
 

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Third, I thought Rees looked just as awful as always, and don't see what he did that was so amazing.

So coming in completely cold, in the 4th Quarter, and marching the team down the field and into position for a relatively "gimme" Field Goal to win the game is looking just awful, eh? Even Mayock was praising Tommy. How about you show some class and pat the kid on the back? No one is asking Kelly to start him again.
 

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Offense's identity? Whatever wins. Matin said it; ND is trying to attack defenses this year. Therefore, our offense will look a little different every week because we are not in a conference and we play different styles of defense.
Is anyone happy that we are 2-0? Any great team comes out with a W after a bit of adversity or bad day at the office, just ask the Auburn team of '10.
 

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Wow this has to be one of the worse threads started on this site since i have been here.
 
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