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The Yankees (and this Derek Jeter saga) represent everything that is wrong with baseball today. APac is right. If he weren't on the Yankees he wouldn't be getting half the attention he's getting now. He shouldn't be an all-star this season by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, he's been one of the worst short stops in the AL this season and if he hadn't pulled out of the ASG b/c of injury he would've been starting. (The ASG voting system is flawed but that's a whole other argument). The point is, ESPN and MLB push so hard to get ratings that it's hard for casual fans to see any other teams than the Yankees, BoSox, Phils, etc. It's no wonder half the country is made up of freaking Yankee fans if they play on half the nat'l TV games every year. If you're a casual fan sitting at home just watching whatever ESPN throws at you, you're bound to become at least a slight Yankees fan b/c THAT'S ALL YOU SEE. You'll rarely see someone born in North Dakota nowhere near a professional team become a fan of, for example, the Kansas City Royals, who are on nat'l TV maybe once a year.

I know it's driven by ratings etc. etc. and this is a business etc. etc. but one of the reasons baseball is losing fans to football is the extreme lack of parity between the teams. In the NFL, every team has an equal chance to succeed because every team has a salary cap. In MLB, the league basically says by not having a salary cap "we'll give you the World Series if you have a high payroll." It's not so much a competition between organizations as it is a competition between owners' wallets, and very few teams are fortunate enough to be able to stick with the big boys for that reason. It's impossible for small market teams to attract big time free agents because of the lack of spending money, and it's extremely difficult for them to keep their own homegrown talent for the same reason. Small market teams might as well become farm teams for the big market teams because that's really all they are, in effect. Take the Twins for example. They have had a few years of successful baseball, and now have some money to spend. So they spend it on the homegrown superstar, and it looks like a good deal for them. But so far, it hasn't worked out. And if it doesn't, that one contract will absolutely CRIPPLE them for its duration. Teams like the Yankees, with deeper pockets, have twice the room for error because they can just spend even more money. Carl Pavano deal doesn't pan out? That's ok, we'll just go buy CC Sabathia. No worries. Small market teams with less money to work with have razor thin margins for error, and thus will not be competitive NEARLY as often as big market teams. MLB will point to a team like the Rays and say "see? there's parity!" but there is absolutely no denying that the Yankees, BoSox, Phils, etc. will win more WS championships than the other teams because they can outspend them.

And THAT'S just the beginning of the problem.

Phew. Felt good to get that off my chest.

Also, roll Tribe.


If I wasn't so tired right now I'd argue your whole post. But, for now I'll leave it to the bolded statement. Jeter is literally the first player to spend his whole career as a Yankee and reach 3000 hits. It's a big deal no matter what team you play for. Your beef with your cheap organization pocketing it's revenue sharing (a lot of it coming from the Yankees), rather than spending it on top players is irrelevant to Jeter's accomplishment.

If your owner in 1995 was George Steinbrenner, you would have kept Lofton, Vizquel, Baerga, Belle, Murray, Thome, Ramirez and Alomar.. and you'd be singing a different tune these days. He might have gotten you a pitcher or two as well.. being that was the reason you lost to the Braves.
 
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The Yankees (and this Derek Jeter saga) represent everything that is wrong with baseball today. APac is right. If he weren't on the Yankees he wouldn't be getting half the attention he's getting now. He shouldn't be an all-star this season by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, he's been one of the worst short stops in the AL this season and if he hadn't pulled out of the ASG b/c of injury he would've been starting. (The ASG voting system is flawed but that's a whole other argument). The point is, ESPN and MLB push so hard to get ratings that it's hard for casual fans to see any other teams than the Yankees, BoSox, Phils, etc. It's no wonder half the country is made up of freaking Yankee fans if they play on half the nat'l TV games every year. If you're a casual fan sitting at home just watching whatever ESPN throws at you, you're bound to become at least a slight Yankees fan b/c THAT'S ALL YOU SEE. You'll rarely see someone born in North Dakota nowhere near a professional team become a fan of, for example, the Kansas City Royals, who are on nat'l TV maybe once a year.

I know it's driven by ratings etc. etc. and this is a business etc. etc. but one of the reasons baseball is losing fans to football is the extreme lack of parity between the teams. In the NFL, every team has an equal chance to succeed because every team has a salary cap. In MLB, the league basically says by not having a salary cap "we'll give you the World Series if you have a high payroll." It's not so much a competition between organizations as it is a competition between owners' wallets, and very few teams are fortunate enough to be able to stick with the big boys for that reason. It's impossible for small market teams to attract big time free agents because of the lack of spending money, and it's extremely difficult for them to keep their own homegrown talent for the same reason. Small market teams might as well become farm teams for the big market teams because that's really all they are, in effect. Take the Twins for example. They have had a few years of successful baseball, and now have some money to spend. So they spend it on the homegrown superstar, and it looks like a good deal for them. But so far, it hasn't worked out. And if it doesn't, that one contract will absolutely CRIPPLE them for its duration. Teams like the Yankees, with deeper pockets, have twice the room for error because they can just spend even more money. Carl Pavano deal doesn't pan out? That's ok, we'll just go buy CC Sabathia. No worries. Small market teams with less money to work with have razor thin margins for error, and thus will not be competitive NEARLY as often as big market teams. MLB will point to a team like the Rays and say "see? there's parity!" but there is absolutely no denying that the Yankees, BoSox, Phils, etc. will win more WS championships than the other teams because they can outspend them.

And THAT'S just the beginning of the problem.

Phew. Felt good to get that off my chest.

Also, roll Tribe.

It was an historic day for baseball.

According to Elias, 17,393 men -- both hitters and pitchers -- have played major league baseball, which puts Jeter in rather distinct company, as just 0.160984 percent of all major leaguers are in the 3,000-hit club. Jeter is also the first of 1,539 men to have ever played for the Yankees to reach that number

28 men and he's one of only two to do it with a Home Run, also one of two to have a perfect day at the plate when doing it. About a dozen of the 3,000 hit club didn't hit for a .300 career BA. Jeter's is .312 which puts him in the top dozen. He's one of the few to do all with one team. The first New Yorker, Yankee, Dodger, Giant, or Met to enter the 3,000 hit club.

And you have to go into attack mode. Your rant show you know little about the history of Cleveland baseball or baseball. You blame salary caps for Cleveland's history of ineptness? Try the history of inept management . Cleveland has traded top talent away for almost a100 years. Is the Curse of Rocky Colavito unknown to you? Roger Maris? The Harvey Kuehn trade. It would take a page to list all the bungles and poor judges of talent by Cleveland Owners, GM's, and Managers. Then we could go the chokes. Late season Pennant Run chokes. Playoff chokes. World Series Chokes. Pick a year! There's so darn many to choose from.

Don't like what Steinbrenner did "buying" free market talent? In 1972 he tried to buy the Indians. He's a hometown boy. He was rebuffed. The next year he bought the Yankees and turned a franchise around. I couldn't stand the man but he would have turned the Indians into a winning program just like he did the Yankees who CBS had gutted both in the major and minor leagues.

There's no parity TODAY? Tell me about Murderer's Row in the 20's. The Yankees dominance in the 30's, 40's, and 50's. Now contrast that with the Yankees success of the past 20 years.

Don't like the way Awards are selected? Jeter had nothing to do with that. All-Star Teams used to be selected by the players until Cincinnati stuffed the ballot box. The Commissioner changed it to the players. Not Jeter. Gold Gloves are voted for by managers and coaches and the Yankee coaches never voted him. You can't vote for your own players. The opposition coaches voted him in.

I guy in North Dakota doesn't root for the Kansas City because the Yankees are on TV? How many people are in North Dakota, much less those that follow baseball. I've relatives in K.C and they don't root for hometeam. The team that gets nationwide coverage is Atlanta. Ted Turned made them America's team with nationwide coverage. The Yankees were on WPIX a small independent station in NYC that didn't broadcast nationally. Then Steinbrenner took them private on a pay per view deal. ESPN hypes the Yankees??? They hyped them so much today that I flipped back and forth between women's soccer, team bowling, and a poker tournament trying to find a highlight. I had already given up trying to find THE GAME, to watch an event that MIGHT only happen two more times, ARod and Damon, and with their health problems neither is a lock any more.

This was a Sports Day regardless of the team, you root for. It was a day to celebrate for a rare accomplishment and you made like a Michigan State fan blaming everybody else for their team's chronic ineptness. Your rant was reminescent of a John L. Smith Press Conference. OMM and NDinL.A. are right, ND fans used to be known for posting with class. Shame on you.
 

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First of all, I would like to apologize for that post. I know it was in bad taste. Yesterday was a good day for baseball. But it was late when I posted it, I was in a bad mood, and I should've been in bed anyway.

I'm not trying to take anything away from Derek Jeter. It was a historic achievement. I respect the hell out of him, and actually kind of like him.

I am not arguing anything about his 3,000 hits. I am not saying it's his fault that he's an all-star. If the fans want to see him in the game, then he should be in the game. What I mean when I say that the system is flawed is that, if the fans are voting, the game shouldn't count for anything. And if the game counts for something (game 7 of the WS, which is crucial) then the fans shouldn't decide. Like I said, I'm not trying to take anything away from Jeter. I respect him and I'm not blaming anything on him. I never did. I'm not arguing that it's a big deal he got 3,000. It's a huge deal. For a career Yankee to be the first Yankee to do it? That's a big deal. And good for him. The "This represents everything that is wrong with baseball" quote should have been worded better or left out. It was really just the segway into my rant.

But just to counter some of the things you said (not arguing, just kinda going into defense mode here):

I am not placing the blame for Cleveland's ineptitude in sports on baseball's issues. Not once in my post did I say that. I said it's hard for teams to compete in a small market, but I never specifically blamed MLB for Cleveland's struggles. Lord knows we've been given shots and failed to capitalize (I'm looking at you, 2007 Indians). I am saying it is a broader problem in baseball that jeopardizes parity, and like it or not, it is true that there are 5-10 teams that will nearly always be competitive simply because they are in big markets and can always have a high payroll.

I wasn't trying to start any sort of arguments. I was bored, tired, and should've been in bed. I was angry for a lot of reasons, and for some reason let off steam that had been building in me for a little while.

Let's just forget that happened. I apologize. Happy Sunday.

September is only 2 months away
 

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And you have to go into attack mode. Your rant show you know little about the history of Cleveland baseball or baseball. You blame salary caps for Cleveland's history of ineptness? Try the history of inept management . Cleveland has traded top talent away for almost a100 years. Is the Curse of Rocky Colavito unknown to you? Roger Maris? The Harvey Kuehn trade. It would take a page to list all the bungles and poor judges of talent by Cleveland Owners, GM's, and Managers. Then we could go the chokes. Late season Pennant Run chokes. Playoff chokes. World Series Chokes. Pick a year! There's so darn many to choose from.

Let's not forget Chris Chambliss for Charlie Spikes. And who could forget Frank "Trader" Lane, who once traded his manager for another?

:wink:
 

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being a red sox, i truly appreciate what jeter has done and to be the only yankee to accomplish this feat....wow.

but back to my regular programming.....

screw the yankmees.
 

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People need to get off Jeter' ***. The guy had been out for a couple weeks trying as hard as he could to get back into the lineup so he could get 3,000 before the break. His family was at multiple games trying to catch a glimpse of their son getting 3,000 hits but it did not come. Im sure all the pressure of getting back into the lineup while also getting 3,000 in front of his family. I completely understand how that could be both physically and emotionally exhausting. Not to mention the guy has to play 160 games this season. Idk about you guys but when I played in college 30 games was enough for me. Going out andf literally playing every single day might not seem like much but try doing it 160 times and playing your heart out every game. Also, remember...Jeter is 37 he's not a kid anymore. I could care less if he comes to the All Star game because I honestly think its a joke anyways. What angers me though is that no one cares about Verlander, CC, Cain etc not attending the game. People need to chill, especially with alot of these analysts on ESPN not knowing what its like to play a full season of baseball.
 

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I appreciate Jeter and his accomplishments..

Should have been at the All Star game, sorry. Its very simple, and has nothing to to with being on his ****...

The MLBPA, Jeter's employment union, agreed to the parameters surrounding the game. He was voted as a starter. He should have gone. He did not go, so suffer a little bad PR.
 

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I congratulated Jeter on his 3,000th hit earlier in this thread, and it was a genuinely cool moment as a baseball fan. So, this has nothing to do with me being a Red Sox fan. But I agree with Zibby. He didn't need to play in the game, but he should have shown up. That is not a difficult thing to do. I don't like the "I got better sh!t to do" attitude. Its his job.

[To be fair, I felt the same way about Manny Ramirez and Pedro Martinez using the AS Break as vacation time even though they were selected every year. It is an honor to be selected, a.s.s.hats. Show up.]
 

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I appreciate Jeter and his accomplishments..

Should have been at the All Star game, sorry. Its very simple, and has nothing to to with being on his ****...

The MLBPA, Jeter's employment union, agreed to the parameters surrounding the game. He was voted as a starter. He should have gone. He did not go, so suffer a little bad PR.

When talking about being on his a** I am referring to the media blowing it out of proportion that he didnt come. It is not fair to just grill Jeter for this when there is plenty of other great players such as Verlander, who I believe should have been the AL starter, who did not decide to come and did not have a good reason. Also the guy has done everything the right way his whole career and has been elected to mutliple all star games, which he has always been to. Doesnt need to be blown up the way it has been. Also, Zibby I am sure you respect Jeter but Im sorry I cant take your opinion that seriously considering your a Sox fan. Even if you are very knowledgable on the game, Sox fan will always criticize Yankee players while Yankees fans will criticize Sox players.
 

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When talking about being on his a** I am referring to the media blowing it out of proportion that he didnt come. It is not fair to just grill Jeter for this when there is plenty of other great players such as Verlander, who I believe should have been the AL starter, who did not decide to come and did not have a good reason. Also the guy has done everything the right way his whole career and has been elected to mutliple all star games, which he has always been to. Doesnt need to be blown up the way it has been. Also, Zibby I am sure you respect Jeter but Im sorry I cant take your opinion that seriously considering your a Sox fan. Even if you are very knowledgable on the game, Sox fan will always criticize Yankee players while Yankees fans will criticize Sox players.

Verlander was there but could not pitch because he started on Sunday. That is a legit reason not to play, but he also did what Jeter should have done: show up, put his uniform on, and tip his cap. Josh Beckett and Jon Lester did the same thing. I'm pretty sure the fans would have liked to have that moment with Jeter. I know this is corny as hell, so sorry for that. But baseball exists for the fans; throw them a freaking bone.
 

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Verlander was there but could not pitch because he started on Sunday. That is a legit reason not to play, but he also did what Jeter should have done: show up, put his uniform on, and tip his cap. Josh Beckett and Jon Lester did the same thing. I'm pretty sure the fans would have liked to have that moment with Jeter. I know this is corny as hell, so sorry for that. But baseball exists for the fans; throw them a freaking bone.

My bad with Verlander but I looked it up and Shane Victorino, David Price, and Placido Pollanco were selected and did not attend. Yes they were hurt by nagging injuries but is it possible that Jeter is still in pain and doesnt want people to know hes still injured?
 

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Actually Polanco may have gone my bad with that too I honestly cant trust anything I read on the internet anymore none of the info is ever true. My abd once again
 

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... Also, Zibby I am sure you respect Jeter but Im sorry I cant take your opinion that seriously considering your a Sox fan. Even if you are very knowledgable on the game, Sox fan will always criticize Yankee players while Yankees fans will criticize Sox players.

Read the post directly before your's. Rhode Island plainly acknowledged in that post that's he's a Red Sox fan. He acknowledged Jeter's accomplishment twice in this thread. He also thought Jeter should have been at the ASG the same as he clearly stated two Red Sox players Ramirez and Martinez should have.

You may fit that fan description you posted but I know a lot of Yankee and Red Sox fan's that don't. I don't think it's fair to paint them all with your broad brush. They root for their teams with passion but they recognize a great play, a great player, when they see it and they say so. And when they see a player make a gaff by not showing up when elected by the fans they say so without making excuses if he's from their team.

In the early 60's Mickey Mantle started an ASG and as soon as he was replaced in the game after his at bat in the bottom of the first, he went to the lockerroom, changed his clothes, and walked outside the stadium where a waiting helicopter took him to the airport for his flight out of town. He was home before the game was over. To use a baseball term, it was BUSH!

Jeter is coming off an injury, a significant one as an older man in baseball. He was smart to use the team to rest those legs but he would have been smarter to show up at the game, even in street clothes. He just got his 3,000th hit, perhaps the last man in baseball that will do so. He owed the fans that moment.

He probably won't get another chance to be at an ASG as a player.
 

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Read the post directly before your's. Rhode Island plainly acknowledged in that post that's he's a Red Sox fan. He acknowledged Jeter's accomplishment twice in this thread. He also thought Jeter should have been at the ASG the same as he clearly stated two Red Sox players Ramirez and Martinez should have.

You may fit that fan description you posted but I know a lot of Yankee and Red Sox fan's that don't. I don't think it's fair to paint them all with your broad brush. They root for their teams with passion but they recognize a great play, a great player, when they see it and they say so. And when they see a player make a gaff by not showing up when elected by the fans they say so without making excuses if he's from their team.

In the early 60's Mickey Mantle started an ASG and as soon as he was replaced in the game after his at bat in the bottom of the first, he went to the lockerroom, changed his clothes, and walked outside the stadium where a waiting helicopter took him to the airport for his flight out of town. He was home before the game was over. To use a baseball term, it was BUSH!

Jeter is coming off an injury, a significant one as an older man in baseball. He was smart to use the team to rest those legs but he would have been smarter to show up at the game, even in street clothes. He just got his 3,000th hit, perhaps the last man in baseball that will do so. He owed the fans that moment.

He probably won't get another chance to be at an ASG as a player.

I agree BGIF, it just when Sox fans use the "well Lester, and Beckett couldnt play but they still came" statement that kinda bothers me. Its like their having the Sox vs Yanks devate again. I understand its their team but i just get annoyed with it.
 

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Read the post directly before your's. Rhode Island plainly acknowledged in that post that's he's a Red Sox fan. He acknowledged Jeter's accomplishment twice in this thread. He also thought Jeter should have been at the ASG the same as he clearly stated two Red Sox players Ramirez and Martinez should have.

You may fit that fan description you posted but I know a lot of Yankee and Red Sox fan's that don't. I don't think it's fair to paint them all with your broad brush. They root for their teams with passion but they recognize a great play, a great player, when they see it and they say so. And when they see a player make a gaff by not showing up when elected by the fans they say so without making excuses if he's from their team.

In the early 60's Mickey Mantle started an ASG and as soon as he was replaced in the game after his at bat in the bottom of the first, he went to the lockerroom, changed his clothes, and walked outside the stadium where a waiting helicopter took him to the airport for his flight out of town. He was home before the game was over. To use a baseball term, it was BUSH!

Jeter is coming off an injury, a significant one as an older man in baseball. He was smart to use the team to rest those legs but he would have been smarter to show up at the game, even in street clothes. He just got his 3,000th hit, perhaps the last man in baseball that will do so. He owed the fans that moment.

He probably won't get another chance to be at an ASG as a player.

Also I would like to say that I am a fan of baseball and I always acknowledge great players when I see them even if their a Sock. I am not a typical jerk Yankee fan that everyone thinks of when an image of a NYY fan comes to mind. I was kind of joking with Zibby because Im sure he would agree Yanks and Sox fans fight all the time about everything. If I had a choice of either being a Boston fan or never watching baseball again I would be a Sox fan. I love baseball more than anything.
 

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Man, does this bring back great memories!

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Jeter Moving Up The All-Time Hit List

Jeter Moving Up The All-Time Hit List

Yankees put up 24 hits and 2 of them were Jeter's. He tied Palmeiro for 24th place on the All-Time Hit List. He's 3 hits behind Lou Brock. When he catches Brock, he'll be 30 hits behind Carew, 32 behind Henderson, and 40 behind Biggio. He should surpass Biggio and move into 20th place by the end of the season.

Jeter's got 94 hits in a 105 game season so date. He projects to 145 hits, 51 more or 11 more than Biggio. It would take another 50 hits after tying Biggio to match Winfield.

If he passes Biggio this year than a similar season, say 140 hits, in '12 would put him around 3210 passing Winfield, Gywnn, Yount, Waner, Brett, and Ripken to 14th place. Similarly another 140 hit season in '13 would move him ahead of Lajoie, Murray, Mays, Collins, and Molitor to 9th place.

With a third 140 hit season he'd be in 6th place somewhere around 25 hits behind Tris Speaker. The climb gets stepper after that. He'd have to have another 140 season or so to catch Musial and repeat it the next to match Aaron. That would be another 5 seasons and he'd be 42. Not likely.

From there it's another 420 hits to reach Cobb, 475 to Rose.

I think passing Molitor is within reach. It's roughly another 100 hits to pass the next guy, Honus Wagner. Jeter's already the All-Time Shortstop Hit Leader but were do the Yankees play him as he continues to slow down. Cano's not a shortstop so he can't switch with him. They're not gonna move Texiera or ARod. Normally I wouldn't think of a .260 DH with a .360 Slugging % but that would be an improvement over Posada who has to be in his last season.
 

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Could Jeter pull an Alfonso Soriano and move to the outfield? Not sure that turned out so well, and Jeter's a lot older, I guess.
 

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Could Jeter pull an Alfonso Soriano and move to the outfield? Not sure that turned out so well, and Jeter's a lot older, I guess.

Yeah, not many 40-ish roaming the outfield either. Several of the guys ahead of him moved to 1st base to finish out their careers but again I don't think that's an option in NY.

If ARod's legs don't mend he could move there but I'd think the Yankees are going to want a bigger bat to replace ARod's if he's done.
 

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Jeter got hit on the right hand by a pitch and left the game with a bruised finger. He's day to day. Tick Tock.
 

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8 GS, 62.2 IP (7.83 IP/GS), 7-1, 1.01 ERA, .189 BAA (.285 BABIP), .503 OPS, 0.91 WHIP, 11.2 K/9, 4.88 K/BB.

And that loss was a 2-1 loss to the Rays. What a frickin boss
 

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Jeter comes back from the bruised finger and the first time up the Old Man lays down a bunt for a basehit. Then strokes 3 singles, lines out to first, and closes with a double to left. Five for six. He's hitting .476 for the past 7 games.

He needed one hit to tie Brock and blew by him into 22nd place. 3027. Needs 26 hits to catch Carew.
 

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Gentleman..................I grew up in a small town in NE N.J. played baseball etc.....Wiffleball from sun up to sun down in the summer, we would go home when the Fire whistle went off in Closter for dinner. If the Yanks were on TV we watched.....if the Red Sox were on TV we watched. We new the line ups of both teams Yanks / Red Sox..... We had the batting helmets etc....we used to take the line up out of the old TV guides and memorize them . Growing up in New Jersey...Yeah you were a Yankee fan, but if the Yanks were not in the playoffs we were rooting for the SOX.... and vise versa. I know You think Im full of crap but honestly thats the way it was. I think you would be shocked. The rivalry is very cool. I remember going to Yankee Stadium when Red Sox were in town many times......You never wore Red Sox stuff in the outfield if you didnt want it ruined. This guy was wearing a red sox batting helmet, A Yankee fan took it off his head and shattered it. and said "I told you to take that off" The guy sat there stunned. By the 7th inning the yankee fan bought the guy another Sox helmet and told him to leave it in the bag. Alot of that crap is all media hyped.......I just feel very fortunate growing up in a great Baseball town. WE LOVED BASEBALL. YANKS, RED SOX............

Sean Thornton............A TRUE YANKEE FAN !!


Ps. DEFENSIVELY ......Arod couldn't be a pimple on Graig Nettles A*S !!


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I think after this series AJ Burnett has become the worst pitcher on the Yankees. Only he could be given a 13-1 lead and not be able to get a win
 

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I think after this series AJ Burnett has become the worst pitcher on the Yankees. Only he could be given a 13-1 lead and not be able to get a win

Honestly why can't Burnett do the honorable thing and punch a concrete wall ala Kevin Brown. Nova is pitching lights out, Hughes may have turned the corner, and one of those guys will be jettisoned to the bullpen over Burnett. AJ on the 60 day DL solves the who goes to the bullpen problem easily.
 

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Tired of the ongoing AJ saga............They need to get rid of him. Kinda reminds me of Ken Holtzman in the late 70's he wasnt worth a crap either.








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AJ is on waivers, but no team in there right mind will claim him. He needs psychiatry's version of Dr. James Andrews. Has no control over his head or his pitches, but in his defense he makes the best cream pies in the big leagues.

Did you see the bullpen last night? Completely lights out. You can't mess with that by putting Gas Can Burnett out there.

What is the logic in running a guy out every five days solely because he makes a ton of jack?
 

Seanthornton

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Maybe a 5 man rotation?? ........... rest Burnett ........Pitch him , make look like a hero then get rid of him.







KEEP THE FAITH !!!

GO IRISH !!!
 

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I met AJ at an event in Little Rock a couple years ago right after they won the world series. In fact, that's why I went-- to meet him. It was in early December and I was still sky high from the win and his game 2 performance. Well, I'll just leave it at this: from the clothes he was wearing, to the people he was hanging out with, to how he talked...he was pretty much exactly what you'd think he he would be seeing him on TV.

It's tough to say, because he did help them win a title, but I think this may be the worst contract EVER for the Yankees. 5 years at 16.5 million per. It's not like he was ever really a 1 before the Yankee contract. At least Kevin Brown had had some dominate years before the Yankees got him. Plus, they didn't sign him to that deal, they just traded for it. At BEST, I'd say AJ's a 3rd starter...for a behind the pack National League team. But still being owed 37 million over the next 2+ seasons means NOBODY will touch him. I cringe every time he steps on the mound!
 
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