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I love the Yankees but, can't follow them throughout the season b/c Baseball is too friggin' boring to watch.
 

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Jeter just got his 3,242 hit (RBI Double) tying Napoleon Lajoie for 12th place on the All-Time Hit List. He's now 13 hits behind Eddie Murray and 41 hits behind The Say Hey Kid.

NY leads TX 8-2 at the end of 7. Derek Lowe (a Yankee!!!) has pitched 2 scoreless innings. Swisher with a Grand Slam has 5 RBI.
 

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Final NY 8 TX 2

Final NY 8 TX 2

Phelps starting out of the bullpen does the job for 5 innings of 2 run, 6 hit ball.

Then Lowe finishes off the Rangers with 2 hits, 0 BB, 4 Ks in 4 full innings of relief for Save #1
 

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NY Shuts Out Tx 3-0

NY Shuts Out Tx 3-0

Jeter with 2 more hits, .320 Trails Murray by 11.

Kuroda no hitter into the 7th. Complete game two hit shutout. Dropped his ERA to 3.06

Garcia 6-5 v Feldman 6-7 on Wednesday.

O's W: TB L

Both are 6 behind.
 

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Jeter with 2 more hits, .320 Trails Murray by 11.

Kuroda no hitter into the 7th. Complete game two hit shutout. Dropped his ERA to 3.06

Garcia 6-5 v Feldman 6-7 on Wednesday.

O's W: TB L

Both are 6 behind.

We rolling now
 

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We rolling now

Perhaps.

Kuroda has stepped up but without C.C. there is no strength among the starting pitchers.

Home Run Hughes is inconsistent.

Nova needs an 8 run lead.

Garcia at best is a .500 pitcher.

Phelps just had a nice effort but he's a bullpen guy.

Pettitte was a pleasant surprise but he was only 3-3 and I doubt he'll be back.


NY has 13 games left against Balt and TB plus a series with Chisox and Tribe in addition to a bunch of games with Bosox and Jays.

IF CC is out or ineffective for a month all the Balt/TB would be over without him. A 6 game lead can evaporate easily if Kuroda is the only bettering .500 ball.
 

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Perhaps.

Kuroda has stepped up but without C.C. there is no strength among the starting pitchers.

Home Run Hughes is inconsistent.

Nova needs an 8 run lead.

Garcia at best is a .500 pitcher.

Phelps just had a nice effort but he's a bullpen guy.

Pettitte was a pleasant surprise but he was only 3-3 and I doubt he'll be back.


NY has 13 games left against Balt and TB plus a series with Chisox and Tribe in addition to a bunch of games with Bosox and Jays.

IF CC is out or ineffective for a month all the Balt/TB would be over without him. A 6 game lead can evaporate easily if Kuroda is the only bettering .500 ball.

Yes but much of this has been true for a large part of the season and we still have the best reord. I don't think we will win the world series but I fully expect to take the division
 

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Yes but much of this has been true for a large part of the season and we still have the best reord. I don't think we will win the world series but I fully expect to take the division

CC has been available for most ot the season and is plus +8 wins over losses in 20 starts.
Nova is +5 in 23 starts but has not been pitching well.
Kuroda is +3 in 23 starts
Hughes is +1 in 23 starts
Garcia is +1 in 12 starts
Phelps is +0 in 4 starts


When CC leaves without a decision he usually leaves ND "in the game". I don't have stats on starts vs relief pitcher wins but Kuroda, Hughes, and Nova haven't left NY "in the game" for a late inning win like CC has.

Boston is having a bad season but it would "make" their season if they could help the O's or TB overtake NY. Minnesota's probably the only easy series NY has left.

You need 2 solid pitchers and without CC ...

And if NY gets to a playoff you need a dominant pitcher and .500 guy. Which NY pitcher do you see beating Texas,and Chi and Balt, TB, Det or the Angels twice or even three times in a series?

As for winning the Division that makes you one of the 6 best teams in baseball. BFD!

It's like Alabama bragging about winning the SEC West or Michigan winning a Big 10 Co-Championship. Who cares? You get a Not Good Enough Trophy.
 

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Pettitte was a pleasant surprise but he was only 3-3 and I doubt he'll be back.

Why do you think Pettitte won't be back? I know he had a setback during rehab, but his latest X-ray (Monday) showed improvement.
 

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Why do you think Pettitte won't be back? I know he had a setback during rehab, but his latest X-ray (Monday) showed improvement.

No inside info. Simply because he's 40 and has had setbacks during rehab (swelling). Do you expect him to be effective when he comes back? How long will it take him to work back into playing shape? Does he have stamina without being able to run? I'm sure he's working diligently but I don't see him being much help.

This is a 40 year old arm not a 22 year old. Are the muscles in shoulder, back, and legs ready for the effort? Before he pitched for the Yankees he pitched simulated games in Tampa and then did a minor league stint.

The good news is it was his non-pivoting leg. But he's still going to come down on it 80-90 times per game.

And if he is ready he's still a 3-3 pitcher. He's not the #1 or #2 pitcher in the rotation that you win playoffs in. He was, once upon a time.
 

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No inside info. Simply because he's 40 and has had setbacks during rehab (swelling). Do you expect him to be effective when he comes back? How long will it take him to work back into playing shape? Does he have stamina without being able to run? I'm sure he's working diligently but I don't see him being much help.

This is a 40 year old arm not a 22 year old. Are the muscles in shoulder, back, and legs ready for the effort? Before he pitched for the Yankees he pitched simulated games in Tampa and then did a minor league stint.

The good news is it was his non-pivoting leg. But he's still going to come down on it 80-90 times per game.

And if he is ready he's still a 3-3 pitcher. He's not the #1 or #2 pitcher in the rotation that you win playoffs in. He was, once upon a time.

I still think he can be effective if he returns. He had a 3.22 ERA before being hit by that line drive. I'm more worried about his arm strength than his stamina (pool work is being substituted for running right now). He is scheduled to start long tossing this week.

He doesn't have to be a #1 (CC- no structural damage and said he could pitch through his injury right now) or #2 (Kuroda- what a surprise (at least to me) he's been). I would settle for #3 or #4. He's got 53 days until the ALDS.

Gimme six innings and get it to the pen.
 

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I still think he can be effective if he returns. He had a 3.22 ERA before being hit by that line drive. I'm more worried about his arm strength than his stamina (pool work is being substituted for running right now). He is scheduled to start long tossing this week.

He doesn't have to be a #1 (CC- no structural damage and said he could pitch through his injury right now) or #2 (Kuroda- what a surprise (at least to me) he's been). I would settle for #3 or #4. He's got 53 days until the ALDS.

Gimme six innings and get it to the pen.


If he could pitch through his injury he'd wouldn't be on the DL. They could skip a couple of turns with him working out IN the bullpen for rehab.

Look back through this thread and you'll see I predicated my comments on IF C.C. is NOT available.

I agree Kuroda has been a pleasant surprise. He's having a Career Year. He's got his lowest ERA since joining MLB and he's having in ONLY winning season in his MLB Career. But having a 52-54 record after 6 years with LAD and NYY is awe inspiring. He's always had a good ERA but mediocre W/L record which makes me think inconsistent. Pitch a shutout one turn and then give up 6 runs in the next and you have a 3.00 ERA looks great but it isn't.

NY needs an effective CC and one other effective starter to succeed in post season play.
 

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If he could pitch through his injury he'd wouldn't be on the DL. They could skip a couple of turns with him working out IN the bullpen for rehab.

Look back through this thread and you'll see I predicated my comments on IF C.C. is NOT available.

I agree Kuroda has been a pleasant surprise. He's having a Career Year. He's got his lowest ERA since joining MLB and he's having in ONLY winning season in his MLB Career. But having a 52-54 record after 6 years with LAD and NYY is awe inspiring. He's always had a good ERA but mediocre W/L record which makes me think inconsistent. Pitch a shutout one turn and then give up 6 runs in the next and you have a 3.00 ERA looks great but it isn't.

NY needs an effective CC and one other effective starter to succeed in post season play.

Looks like i did take your comments out of context. I absolutely agree that the Yanks would be screwed without CC in the post. I don't see a way that they could get out of the Divisional Series. That's the worst case scenario.

As far as CC needing the DL stint..He pitched through the injury against Detroit. And these are his words on the injury:

"I thought I had good stuff -- as good stuff as I've had all year -- in Detroit," Sabathia said. "I know I can pitch with it."

Asked if he could pitch today if it was October and it was a playoff game, Sabathia gave a two-word answer: "Of course."

Granted, he's a competitor, and I wouldn't expect him to say less, but like I said- he said he could pitch through it.
 

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NY Beats TX Again, 3-2

NY Beats TX Again, 3-2

Fine effort by Garcia, 2 runs on 4 hits over 6-2/3. Hamilton had a pair of solo HRs but that was all the Ranger offense. Bullpen shut them down cold.

This was a key series. NY leads 3-0. Holland 7-6, 4.92 pitches against Nova 11-6, 4.70.

Jeter had 1 hit. Trails Murray by 10.

Chavez was 3 for 3 and has climbed to .303. Arod who? Chavez doesn't have his power but then neither did Arod this past half season.


O's maintain the pace while TB got perfected.
 

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I'm trying to go to the game today but can't find anyone else to go. This will probably be the first season of my life that I haven't been to a Yankee game.
 

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Eric Chavez could always rake when he was healthy.

His last six games are just ridiculous:

14 for 23, 7 R, 2 2B, 3 HR, 7 RBI, .609 BA, 1.078 SLG, 1.727 OPS.

A-Rod vs. Chavez this year...

A-Rod:
351 AB, 97 H, 14 2B, 1 3B, 15 HR, 44 RBI, 84 K, 11 SB, .276 BA, .449 SLG, .806 OPS


Chavez:
201 AB, 61 H, 28 R, 10 2B, 13 HR, 31 RBI, 19 K, .303 BA, .547 SLG, .909 OPS

For anyone who doesn't know OPS is On Base % + Slugging %. Chavez's .909 OPS would be 8th in the American League if he had enough plate appearances to qualify (ahead of Prince Fielder, Mark Trumbo, Albert Pujols, and Jose Bautista to name a few).
 

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I'm trying to go to the game today but can't find anyone else to go. This will probably be the first season of my life that I haven't been to a Yankee game.

After I posted this I bought tickets to Saturday's Red Sox game. My first ever!
 

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Nova gave up a bunch of runs Thursday but a NY 5 run 5th took him off the hook. A half inning later the NY bullpen stumbled mightly. NY lost 10-6 despite a pair of hits by Jeter and 3 by Suzuki.
 

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After I posted this I bought tickets to Saturday's Red Sox game. My first ever!

Hope Saturday's game turns out as well as Friday's. HR Hughes gave up another one but it didn't count against his ERA due to an error he made opening the door to 4 unearned runs. NY put up 6 on 5 HRs including one by Jeter. He's got a 14 game hit streak.

Saturday 4:05 PM Lester 6-10, 5.20 vs Phelps 3-3 2.53

Lester and Phelps both were sharp the last time out. Lester gave up 1 run over 7 innings with 12 Ks but he was winless in the 5 prior starts. Lester had a 6.97 ERA vs NY this season.

Phelps and Lowe shutdown the Tigers last time out. Phelps is allowed 75-80 pitches/game since coming out of the bullpen to start. He's got a 4.50 ERA against BOS this season. Lowe should get the call to face the Sox in relief regardless of the score.
 

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Bosox 4 gkIrish's NY 1

Bosox 4 gkIrish's NY 1

Phelps pitched well giving up 3 runs over 6.2 but Lester pitched better holding NY to 1 run.

Jeter drew a collar.

TB and O's both win. TB now 5 behind.



Sunday 8:05 pm Beckett 5-10, 5.19 v Kuroda 11-8

Beckett's last two outings have been terrible, 5 HRs, 14 earned runs in 10.1 innings. 5.19 ERA.

Kuroda threw a 2 hit complete game shutout against TX after getting banged by Detroit for 10 hits in his previous start. 3.06 ERA
 

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Phelps pitched well giving up 3 runs over 6.2 but Lester pitched better holding NY to 1 run.

Jeter drew a collar.

TB and O's both win. TB now 5 behind.



Sunday 8:05 pm Beckett 5-10, 5.19 v Kuroda 11-8

Beckett's last two outings have been terrible, 5 HRs, 14 earned runs in 10.1 innings. 5.19 ERA.

Kuroda threw a 2 hit complete game shutout against TX after getting banged by Detroit for 10 hits in his previous start. 3.06 ERA

At least I got to heckle valentine
 

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NY 4 Bo 1

NY 4 Bo 1

Kuroda with another sparkling out. Four hits over 8 innings lowering his ERA to 2.96, 7th best in the AL. He's had 8 starts since the All-Star game, over the last 7 starts, he's 4-1 with a Bob Gibsonlike 1.39 ERA.

Suzuki had 3 hits including a pair of HRs for all the offense Kuroda needed.

Jeter went 3-4 with a pair of doubles. He's got 26, 2B so far this season which is 2 more than last year. He's also surpassed his hits, HR, and TBs from last year.

He trails Eddie Murray by 4 hits on the All Time List.

Monday 8:10 PM NY Garcia, 7-5, 4.68 vs Chisox Floyd, 9-9, 4.43. Garcia has a 3.69 ERA over his last 9 starts this summer while Floyd is 3.26 over last 6 starts.
 

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Monday Garcia had an early lead and was cruising until he got to the 5th when the ChiSox put up 5 runs. Jeter, 4-5, 2B & HR, got him off the hook but Sox went Long Ball over NY.

Tuesday night, Jeter opened with another HR, 1-5, and Nova was up 2-0 before he took the mound. He did OK until the 5th, when he give up a Grand Slam to Youkilis.

Jeter tied Murry Monday night and move ahead of him on the All Time List into 11th Place on Tuesday.

Next up, The Say Hey Kid 27 hits ahead. If Jeter continues his current pace, he'll roar pass Mays to take over 10th place and trail Eddie Collins by about 5 hits and Paul Molitor by about 9 hits.

Honus Wagner would be quite reachable next year at 3415 as would Yaz as 3419.a 205 hits season would catch Tris Speaker, 3514, but that's unlikely. Further movement up the List would probably take a year per slot, Stan Musial 3630 and Aaron at 3771. Cobb would be another 420 hits away then and Charlie Hustle another 65 hits past that.

The way he's hitting now another 2 years seems likely which would probably put hiim between Speaker and Musial.

Question is how long can he play in the infield and would NY DH a singles hitter at 40 so he could pass Musial and chase Aaron?
 

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TB is down 4 games to NY and the Os are down 5.



Wednesday 8:10 pm NY @ Chisox on ESPN2

Hughes (12-10) 4.23 v Sale (14-4) 2.72

Hughes is 1-0, 2.25 vs Chi this season.

Sales is 7.2 1.80 at home this season.
 

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CC threw in the bullpen on yesterday and declared himself ready to pitch Friday when he's eligible to come off the DL. He's listed on the schedule to pitch.

Joba and his 9.45 ERA may be sent to the minors to make room.
 

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