World Series

[IrishJayhawk]

I don't care for the Cardinals

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Big out here

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Should they walk the bases loaded here?

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

WTF just happened?

 

[ACamp1900]

It's the right call... Regardless of team... You can't trip up the runner there and get away with it... Intent or not

 

[palinurus]

OMG

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Wow. Never saw anything like that before

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

It's the right call... Regardless of team... You can't trip up the runner there and get away with it... Intent or not

I agree.

 

[brick4956]

that wasnt the right call craig pushed middlebrooks down

 

[palinurus]

Wow. Never saw anything like that before

I've watched a lot of baseball, and me neither.

 

[rtrn2glory]

bull **** rule...how the **** can you win in that situation...all the base runner had to do is step on the infielder and it's automatic obstruction...dumb *** rule.

although very dumb *** by saltalamacchia to throw that ball

 

[ACamp1900]

that wasnt the right call craig pushed middlebrooks down

You're joking right??

 

[ACamp1900]

I've seen that called many times, but never to end a game...

 

[IrishJayhawk]

I don't know the right call. Would have to look at the rule. It sure didn't seem like the fielder tried to block him. It was in the context of trying to field the ball.

But, well...I don't know.

Heck of a finish.

 

[rtrn2glory]

pedroia made an amazing play that is going to be forgotten b/c of that stupid ****ing rule and saltalamacchia being stupid

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

bull **** rule...how the **** can you win in that situation...all the base runner had to do is step on the infielder and it's automatic obstruction...dumb *** rule.

although very dumb *** by saltalamacchia to throw that ball

Didn't learn his lesson from the other night.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Didn't learn his lesson from the other night.

he's been awful the whole postseason...one whoops base hit to end game 2 in the alcs...that's all he's done

 

[FearTheBeard]

The third baseman curled his legs up just as craig was trying to step over. That call is perfectly fine

 

[palinurus]

I don't know the right call. Would have to look at the rule. It sure didn't seem like the fielder tried to block him. It was in the context of trying to field the ball.

But, well...I don't know.

Heck of a finish.

I don't know. At first, I was sure Middlebrooks legs up like that was an accident in trying to get up. Then I laid on my floor and tried to get up, and that is not the instinctive way to get up from ground while lying on your stomach. You slide your knees up to your stomach and get up, you don't throw your feet in the air.

That's all incidental, though. They just read the rule and if he impedes, it's obstruction.

Tough @ss loss for the Sox.

edit: As I think about it, I wonder if they call that if Middlebrooks' legs aren't in the air. But I don't recall if he tripped on MIddlebrooks' torso or his raised legs.

edit: no, I just saw it again; he tripped over Middlebooks' legs and it does look intentional; Middlebrooks started to get up, raised his legs, then went back down, then went back up with the legs. I think he did it on purpose.

 

[rtrn2glory]

i've always thought obstruction is stupid rule....for instance if a base runner runs into a fielder going for the ball by simply running to a base...i don't like that call, but it is what it is.

this series is close to over with the way the sox are hitting the ball anyway...sooooo many guys left on base and the top of our order has been horrendous

 

[SoIll]

correct call.. as sad as it is.. the bigger question is why the hell werent the red sox walking Jon Jay to load the bases.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Balsy call by Jim Joyce man, especially after what he did to Gallaraga two years ago.

 

[GreenSox04]

That's obstruction.

Salty shouldn't make that throw.

Farrell made two bone head manager moves.



What a play by petey.

 

[TheRealLynch51]

Props to the red sox fans on this board. Handling that call with class.

 

[KPENN]

i've always thought obstruction is stupid rule....for instance if a base runner runs into a fielder going for the ball by simply running to a base...i don't like that call, but it is what it is.

this series is close to over with the way the sox are hitting the ball anyway...sooooo many guys left on base and the top of our order has been horrendous

Wait, what?

 

[MPClinton22]

My biggest issue is that it seemed like Middlebrooks was raising his legs to get them out of the basepath, but Craig was running way inside the normal basepath, so it ended up tripping him. I just don't see how you can end the game on a call like that, unless it is really egregious like Middlebrooks reached out and grabbed his leg or something.

I am just very sad. And Salty better not see playing time for the rest of this series.

 

[BGIF]

My biggest issue is that it seemed like Middlebrooks was raising his legs to get them out of the basepath, but Craig was running way inside the normal basepath, so it ended up tripping him. I just don't see how you can end the game on a call like that, unless it is really egregious like Middlebrooks reached out and grabbed his leg or something.

I am just very sad. And Salty better not see playing time for the rest of this series.

They just read the rule on ESPN. If Middlebrooks was attempting to field the ball, hit or thrown it would not have been obstruction. But when he is no longer fielding the ball it is.

He missed the catcher's wide throw and went the ball went past him he was no longer trying to field the ball. Doesn't matter whether it was intentional, or not, or if he tried to get out of the way.

The 3rd base umpire quickly made the call. No hesitation. The home plate umpire agreed.

In the post game panel interview with the umpires, they pointed out it was a standard call. The unusual part was that it ended a game.

 

[MPClinton22]

They just read the rule on ESPN. If Middlebrooks was attempting to field the ball, hit or thrown it would not have been obstruction. But when he is no longer fielding the ball it is.

He missed the catcher's wide throw and went the ball went past him he was no longer trying to field the ball. Doesn't matter whether it was intentional, or not, or if he tried to get out of the way.

The 3rd base umpire quickly made the call. No hesitation. The home plate umpire agreed.

In the post game panel interview with the umpires, they pointed out it was a standard call. The unusual part was that it ended a game.

Yeah I understand that calling obstruction there is, by rule, the correct call. My problem I suppose is with the wording of the rule. What is the expectation for Middlebrooks there? He somehow magically make himself disappear? He would not have been able to get up fast enough to get out of Craig's way. He pushes himself up to his knees to get up - obstruction. He lays down and tries to get his legs out of the normal basepath - obstruction. Just a horribly constructed rule, that will in all likelihood be edited due to this debacle.

But shame on Saltalamacchia for even putting Middlebrooks in this position. The Sox had Uehara on the mound and Kozma was coming up. Those ingredients would seem to add up to out number three and extras to me!

 

[philipm31]

Yeah I understand that calling obstruction there is, by rule, the correct call. My problem I suppose is with the wording of the rule. What is the expectation for Middlebrooks there? He somehow magically make himself disappear? He would not have been able to get up fast enough to get out of Craig's way. He pushes himself up to his knees to get up - obstruction. He lays down and tries to get his legs out of the normal basepath - obstruction. Just a horribly constructed rule, that will in all likelihood be edited due to this debacle.

But shame on Saltalamacchia for even putting Middlebrooks in this position. The Sox had Uehara on the mound and Kozma was coming up. Those ingredients would seem to add up to out number three and extras to me!

Blame FARRELL. He was the one that should have ordered the IBB to Jay and loaded the bases for Kozma. Farrell mismanaged the game, BADLY. I mean he never let Napoli hit??

I love the Cardinals but there is no way you can not put that game on Farrell. Could have been an inning ending DP if he loads the bases with Molina on 3rd.

Farrell got off lucky because of the ending, honestly.

 

[Irish2155]

Come on Clay Buchholz. Should have been pitching last night anyways. Biggest start in your life.

Felix should get the ball in game 7 if the series makes it that far.