Updated Recruiting List 2011

[johnnykillz]

Geez guys. Really? TOH-MAY-toe or TOM-ah-toe.

Wins will fix all...

 

[TerryTate]

I apologize as I am a new poster and did not have facts at hand but have since done some research on our "star" recruits.
Its ugly, all of these players were ESPN TOP 150 between 2006-2009
Gary Gray-#13-pretty solid
Kerry Neal#26
Duvak K.#36
Mike Ragone#55--Some of these guys do not even play
Matt Romine#85, Ian Williams#120, Robert Hughes#140, Brian Smith#150
Raeshon Macneil, Konrad Ruland, Zach Frazer, Luke Schmidt, Demetrius Jones, Toryan Smith, Richard Jackson??
Ethan JOhnson, Jamoris Slaughter, Jonas Gray, Deon Walker??, Steve Filer

I will let you judge for yourself if any now in top 150, also, Boise State, TCU, Utah, and Cinncinatti and all service acadamies had ZERO top 150(unless you count Demetrious Jones)
Therefore, I really, really do not get that excited when a recruit or 5 leave-get the RKG replacing him and you have just about the same chance-or better- dont believe me-see above.

While I agree with you for the most part, 5 star recruits are different. Rudolph, Teo, Floyd, Clausen have all been studs, I get it. But personally, I love the RKG nomenclature. I understand what he is trying to do. To quote Tony Springmann, " I bleed blue and gold." That's what I ****ing want from a Notre Dame football player. Boo-****ing-yeah. That's the **** I'm talking about. Get an 18-year old to buy in to the hard-nose, **** you, mentality and he will succeed. We have softies on our roster, we need to replace these boys with mean mother****ers that want to pound the world. I love it. Bring this **** on. Thank you Brian Kelly for bringing this attitude to our football team. It has been sorely lacking.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

I just read that and imagined the real Terry Tate saying it...

 

[aubeirish]

While I agree with you for the most part, 5 star recruits are different. Rudolph, Teo, Floyd, Clausen have all been studs, I get it. But personally, I love the RKG nomenclature. I understand what he is trying to do. To quote Tony Springmann, " I bleed blue and gold." That's what I ****ing want from a Notre Dame football player. Boo-****ing-yeah. That's the **** I'm talking about. Get an 18-year old to buy in to the hard-nose, **** you, mentality and he will succeed. We have softies on our roster, we need to replace these boys with mean mother****ers that want to pound the world. I love it. Bring this **** on. Thank you Brian Kelly for bringing this attitude to our football team. It has been sorely lacking.

Amen.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Folks, it would be very interesting if someone who is smart on where our recent disappointments now place us in terms of commitment slots to fill, would enlighten us. It would also be interesting if that same or other smart person would analyze the coverage our class still has [position-wise vs need], and maybe even speculate a little about why Golson, Carlisle, etc---the "new" developments.

 

[TerryTate]

5-6 spots remaining (estimated) with the 3 de-commitments

Needs:
OT - Zach Martin, Jay Whitmire, Troy Niklas
S - ?, we have 4 DBs committed
WR - Amir Carlisle, Miles Shuler
RB - Savon Huggins, Amir Carlisle
ILB - Denzel Perryman
OLB - Ishaq Williams, Christian French (should be announcing tomorrow)
DE - Troy Niklas, we have 3 solid commitments

Gholson, to me, seems like a perfect fit to this spread offense. He can extend the play with his feet, runs a similar offense in high school, and has a nice touch on his pass.

Amir could be getting a closer look now that Shuler & Huggins appear to be staying in-state.

 

[TerryTate]

While I agree with you for the most part, 5 star recruits are different. Rudolph, Teo, Floyd, Clausen have all been studs, I get it. But personally, I love the RKG nomenclature. I understand what he is trying to do. To quote Tony Springmann, " I bleed blue and gold." That's what I ****ing want from a Notre Dame football player. Boo-****ing-yeah. That's the **** I'm talking about. Get an 18-year old to buy in to the hard-nose, **** you, mentality and he will succeed. We have softies on our roster, we need to replace these boys with mean mother****ers that want to pound the world. I love it. Bring this **** on. Thank you Brian Kelly for bringing this attitude to our football team. It has been sorely lacking.

Wow, forgot I wrote that. Did a bit of time travel last night after my trivia night at a local bar.

I still stand by my statements. Pretty good spelling and grammar, if I do say so myself.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

5-6 spots remaining (estimated) with the 3 de-commitments

Needs:
OT - Zach Martin, Jay Whitmire
S - ?, we have 4 DBs committed
WR - Amir Carlisle, Miles Shuler
RB - Savon Huggins, Amir Carlisle
OLB - Ishaq Williams, Christian French (should be announcing tomorrow)
DE - Not sure who's on the board, we have 3 solid commitments

Gholson, to me, seems like a perfect fit to this spread offense. He can extend the play with his feet, runs a similar offense in high school, and has a nice touch on his pass.

Amir could be getting a closer look now that Shuler & Huggins appear to be staying in-state.

For DE I'm hoping Tuitt can get Drew to visit ND

 

[TerryTate]

For DE I'm hoping Tuitt can get Drew to visit ND

Drew is projected as an OLB in our system. I haven't seen anything about him lately.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

OLB...dang maybe he can grow into a DE. A man can still hope we have a chance with Drew, I can hope! Drew would be just as big or a bigger commit than Manti.

 

[TerryTate]

That was dumb of me... I forgot Troy Niklas DE/OT

 

[Sherm Sticky]

That was dumb of me... I forgot Troy Niklas DE/OT

Haha me too...good catch

 

[aubeirish]

That was dumb of me... I forgot Troy Niklas DE/OT

There is Scarlett too. Although, it seems like the staff isn't really interested in him.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Terry what about Perryman at ILB?

 

[aubeirish]

Drew is projected as an OLB in our system. I haven't seen anything about him lately.

He doesn't seem to be talking a lot about his recruiting. Looks wide open still, but we really can't tell.

 

[TerryTate]

Terry what about Perryman at ILB?

Well done

 

[The Polish Irishman]

I would not be surprise to hear a couple of new names in the upcoming weeks.

 

[TerryTate]

I would not be surprise to hear a couple of new names in the upcoming weeks.

It's certainly trending that way

 

[Old Man Mike]

Terry, thanks for the info/update. I knew that you were the man for the job, but didn't want to stick you with the responsibility in my post. Your info created a flurry of interest as I knew it would. I'm still wondering about the Golson "coincidence" with Dayne's third injury [I count michigan as one]. Is this getting to Kelly, or are we solid enough overall that he feels he can go after "best available athlete" regardless of position at this point? I'm not asking you, Terry, to respond to this speculation, just voicing my thoughts re:quarterbacking.

 

[Irish Man3]

Drew is projected as an OLB in our system. I haven't seen anything about him lately.

According to Drews facebook, he cut off all interviews and questions about recruiting until the conclusion of his senior season. ESPN is making it out to be a 3 team race with Georgia, LSU, and Florida State but Drew continues to claim he is wide open. With Lynch gone it opens up some room for Drew even though the positions aren't the same. Drew is a true DE and says he would like to play there in college. Burton and Lynch de-committing, and Stephon holding strong should help us with Ray.

Im still very interested in Scarlett and Troy Niklas. We have to fill the void left by Lynch in some way.


As far as offense, I like the offer of Amir Carlisle. We are upgrading the speed with Justice Hayes and the possibility of Savon and Amir.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

As far as three stars versus four and five stars: "Some times you feel like a nut, some times you don't . . . "

The answer lies with the evaluation process (how much the athlete will develop) and gaging correctly as to how well the athlete fits in the program.

Some five stars fall by the wayside, and some three stars become bitches on wheels, but more five stars succeed than three, and regardless of stars, those that have someone developing them to their fullest potential are always the biggest winners.

Kelly needs three years, and all the kids will see that his program starts putting kids in the NFL like Central, and Cinci did.

The real shame of Ian Williams injury, is he was headed for an All-American year, and a first or second round draft choice. That would have been better advertising than ten wins!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

While I agree with you for the most part, 5 star recruits are different. Rudolph, Teo, Floyd, Clausen have all been studs, I get it. But personally, I love the RKG nomenclature. I understand what he is trying to do. To quote Tony Springmann, " I bleed blue and gold." That's what I ****ing want from a Notre Dame football player. Boo-****ing-yeah. That's the **** I'm talking about. Get an 18-year old to buy in to the hard-nose, **** you, mentality and he will succeed. We have softies on our roster, we need to replace these boys with mean mother****ers that want to pound the world. I love it. Bring this **** on. Thank you Brian Kelly for bringing this attitude to our football team. It has been sorely lacking.
__________________

Hey Terry,

When are you saying ****, and when are you saying ****?

 

[TerryTate]

hahaha

First two are F bombs
Third is sh!t
Followed by another F bomb
Mother F'ers is self explanatory
last one is sh!t

Was I not clear the first time?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I particularly like the exclamation point!



(Thanks for the clarification.)

 

[Sherm Sticky]

As far as three stars versus four and five stars: "Some times you feel like a nut, some times you don't . . . "

The answer lies with the evaluation process (how much the athlete will develop) and gaging correctly as to how well the athlete fits in the program.

Some five stars fall by the wayside, and some three stars become bitches on wheels, but more five stars succeed than three, and regardless of stars, those that have someone developing them to their fullest potential are always the biggest winners.

Kelly needs three years, and all the kids will see that his program starts putting kids in the NFL like Central, and Cinci did.

The real shame of Ian Williams injury, is he was headed for an All-American year, and a first or second round draft choice. That would have been better advertising than ten wins!

It is a shame about Ian Williams, but a first or second round pick seems high. A third round pick for Ian seems more accurate. none the less terrible loss. I love that kid great warrior.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogtrotter07
As far as three stars versus four and five stars: "Some times you feel like a nut, some times you don't . . . "

The answer lies with the evaluation process (how much the athlete will develop) and gaging correctly as to how well the athlete fits in the program.

Some five stars fall by the wayside, and some three stars become bitches on wheels, but more five stars succeed than three, and regardless of stars, those that have someone developing them to their fullest potential are always the biggest winners.

Kelly needs three years, and all the kids will see that his program starts putting kids in the NFL like Central, and Cinci did.

The real shame of Ian Williams injury, is he was headed for an All-American year, and a first or second round draft choice. That would have been better advertising than ten wins!

It is a shame about Ian Williams, but a first or second round pick seems high. A third round pick for Ian seems more accurate. none the less terrible loss. I love that kid great warrior.

Okay, so I get excited and exaggerate to make a point. When kids see a player that languished for three years and all of a sudden becomes a beast, and Ian Williams is the most dramatic example of all times, they are going to want to commit to the school. It is a much greater motivating factor than the number of wins or losses in the first year.

 

[jason_h537]

Added:
QB Everett Golson

Re-Added:
WR Amir Carlisle

Updated:
DE Brennan Scarlett
DE Ray Drew
OLB Ishaq Williams
OLB Christian French

 

[Irish.Ca]

Missing Whitmire from the list, please add especially after being in South Bend last weekend.

 

[IrishLax]

I'd also add Brissett. Justice sounds like he was working on him hard, so he has to have at least low interest.

 

[jmurphy75]

I was hoping for some good news on the recruiting front today, I keep checking back and nothing yet....dammit!