Turf/ Jumbotron Thread

[Irish Insanity]

This **** is never gonna get solved.

For some, that is solved. The longer its in limbo, the longer there will be no changes. People against changes have to know at some point in time it will happen, the longer that takes, the happier they are.

 

[ResLife Hero]

"But I’m not prepared to have any more years with the situation we dealt with this year."

Sounds to me like he's in favor of the change, but it just isn't his call at this point so he doesn't want to get ahead of the process. I think the turf is coming soon, but there will need to be some kowtowing to tradition in the process.

 

[wizards8507]

I encourage everyone to tune into the PSU-Minnesota game. The stadium has FieldTurf and it's absolutely hideous on television. I'm not sure why other artificial surfaces do a better job of imitating the look of natural grass, but whatever model Minnesota uses should be removed from consideration for pure aesthetic reasons.

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[irishff1014]

I encourage everyone to tune into the PSU-Minnesota game. The stadium has FieldTurf and it's absolutely hideous on television. I'm not sure why other artificial surfaces do a better job of imitating the look of natural grass, but whatever model Minnesota uses should be removed from consideration for pure aesthetic reasons.

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But look at the Tenn- auburn Game and lok at the field it looks like crap.

 

[wizards8507]

I encourage everyone to tune into the PSU-Minnesota game. The stadium has FieldTurf and it's absolutely hideous on television. I'm not sure why other artificial surfaces do a better job of imitating the look of natural grass, but whatever model Minnesota uses should be removed from consideration for pure aesthetic reasons.

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See now Camp Randall stadium (Wisconsin) has FieldTurf as well, except theirs looks great. It's supposedly the same stuff as Minnesota so I don't get why one is a nice uniform green and the other looks like matted old carpet.

I still think I prefer natural grass, even brown and worn, but it's clear that there's a huge spectrum of quality even within one specific brand of artificial surface.

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[greyhammer90]

Is Michigan's stadium Field Turf or grass?

 

[irishff1014]

FT i believe

 

[greyhammer90]

FT i believe

Well it looks great. I wouldn't mind putting that stuff in ND stadium (though I'd like it to be just a shade darker on the bluish green side).

 

[irishff1014]

Well it looks great. I wouldn't mind putting that stuff in ND stadium (though I'd like it to be just a shade darker on the bluish green side).

I agree it does look nice.

 

[Dizzyphil]

Maybe Mr. Jack can go talk to the folks at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indy. I have been on that field for a tour and it is un-be-lieve-able how firm but realistic it is.

GO IRISH!!!!!!!
Diz

 

[koonja]

Maybe Mr. Jack can go talk to the folks at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indy. I have been on that field for a tour and it is un-be-lieve-able how firm but realistic it is.

GO IRISH!!!!!!!
Diz

That's what she said.

 

[wizards8507]

Maybe Mr. Jack can go talk to the folks at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indy. I have been on that field for a tour and it is un-be-lieve-able how firm but realistic it is.

GO IRISH!!!!!!!
Diz

I'm no expert but my guess is that a dome has an "unfair advantage" so-to-speak. This stuff isn't maintenance-free and, like natural grass, it will see adverse effects from rain, cold, and sun

Not directed at you, but that's another thing people here forget in their cost-benefit analysis. It's not like installation of FieldTurf would be a one-time-only expense with no maintenance or replacement anywhere along the line, especially to maintain top-notch quality.

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[irishff1014]

I'm no expert but my guess is that a dome has an "unfair advantage" so-to-speak. This stuff isn't maintenance-free and, like natural grass, it will see adverse effects from rain, cold, and sun

Not directed at you, but that's another thing people here forget in their cost-benefit analysis. It's not like installation of FieldTurf would be a one-time-only expense with no maintenance or replacement anywhere along the line, especially to maintain top-notch quality.

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Not trying to be a smart as$but a lot o people still put a tarp over it when not being in use. Plus the rain issue the way the do drains now is crazy.

 

[Dizzyphil]

I'm no expert but my guess is that a dome has an "unfair advantage" so-to-speak. This stuff isn't maintenance-free and, like natural grass, it will see adverse effects from rain, cold, and sun

Not directed at you, but that's another thing people here forget in their cost-benefit analysis. It's not like installation of FieldTurf would be a one-time-only expense with no maintenance or replacement anywhere along the line, especially to maintain top-notch quality.

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Well then let's go all the way!!!!!!!!! Build a dome, paint it gold and call it 'The Temple'!!!!!!!!!! LOL



GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!
Diz

 

[Dizzyphil]

That's what she said.

^^^REPS MY FRIEND^^

GO IRISH!!!!!!!!
Diz

 

[greyhammer90]

Another advantage of doing field turf is that ND could actually hold practices in the stadium. That might not seem like a big deal but it really is. Coaches get to simulate a game day at practice, players get to get used to the "feel" of the stadium and the kickers get more of a chance to get used to the winds and turf of the stadium.

 

[irishff1014]

Another advantage of doing field turf is that ND could actually hold practices in the stadium. That might not seem like a big deal but it really is. Coaches get to simulate a game day at practice, players get to get used to the "feel" of the stadium and the kickers get more of a chance to get used to the winds and turf of the stadium.

Very good points.

 

[bmf175]

Another advantage of doing field turf is that ND could actually hold practices in the stadium. That might not seem like a big deal but it really is. Coaches get to simulate a game day at practice, players get to get used to the "feel" of the stadium and the kickers get more of a chance to get used to the winds and turf of the stadium.

I wonder how many teams actually practice on their game fields though? If they practice on field turf why do they need to get used to it on the game field? If the game field has the same field turf as the practice field turf.
And if you know wind you know it changes by the minute or the second. Trends prior to the game can change by the end of one quarter yet alone day by day. I would imagine that teams that do not hold full team practice on the game field would have the kicker practice in the stadium by themselves (with a kicking tee).

I would kind of like to keep the game field for the games. Mentally everybody steps it up a notch when they are playing on their game field. reserving the running out of the tunnel game day feeling for game day. You get the mentality that practice is over its time to perform. IMHO

 

[Dizzyphil]

Another advantage of doing field turf is that ND could actually hold practices in the stadium. That might not seem like a big deal but it really is. Coaches get to simulate a game day at practice, players get to get used to the "feel" of the stadium and the kickers get more of a chance to get used to the winds and turf of the stadium.

There is no 'un-known' about the playing surface either. Or, change during the first 5 minutes to the last 5 minutes of the game.

very good points brother!

GO IRISH!!!!!
Diz

 

[greyhammer90]

I wonder how many teams actually practice on their game fields though? If they practice on field turf why do they need to get used to it on the game field? If the game field has the same field turf as the practice field turf.
And if you know wind you know it changes by the minute or the second. Trends prior to the game can change by the end of one quarter yet alone day by day. I would imagine that teams that do not hold full team practice on the game field would have the kicker practice in the stadium by themselves (with a kicking tee).

I would kind of like to keep the game field for the games. Mentally everybody steps it up a notch when they are playing on their game field. reserving the running out of the tunnel game day feeling for game day. You get the mentality that practice is over its time to perform. IMHO

I know most SEC schools at least practice in their stadiums on Friday. I admittedly don't know how many do beyond that though.

I think you see it differently than I do. Our team looks stiff coming out of the tunnel every Saturday to me. I think the completely alien nature of the home game schedule, location, sights and sounds etc. don't lend well to playing loose or inspired. I know this seems counter-intuitive, but in reality the team only gets to play in the stadium 6-7 times a year. I think comfort and familiarity are a big advantage that is being ignored.

Edit: I'd also say you are underestimating the importance of kickers knowing how the surface/wind is going to change on a day to day basis. At the very least I'd want the kickers practicing almost exclusively in the stadium

 

[DCirishfan]

I would be all for new field turf if it came complete with coaching staff that could properly build a program and put together a game plan.

 

[Buster Bluth]

I would be all for new field turf if it came complete with coaching staff that could properly build a program and put together a game plan.

Smdh

 

[twig21]

I was at the Ucla game last night. There have been numerous improvements to the Rose Bowl including a beautiful jumbo tron. It really pumps up the crowd and gets everybody going and making a lot of noise, and I don't think Ucla fans are huge football people, however they were loud lastnight. We sat in the new suites. When and if ND makes the renovations to the stadium they should build similar suites and put the older season ticket holders there, that whey they won't be yelling "down in front", and they will be cozier. The crazier, louder fans can fill the stadium seats. I believe this can go a long way in re-building a home field advantage.

 

[frankygoes69]

Nothing against the "sit down in fronters" but eventually they will be phased out. The jumbo tron will make ND stadium and the games that much better.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Nothing against the "sit down in fronters" but eventually they will be phased out. The jumbo tron will make ND stadium and the games that much better.

I look at it this way. Going to a game is entertainment. If I am sitting down I am not being entertained. I stand to show support and excitement for my team. Standing should be a good thing. Sitting should be whats getting yelled at. **** sitting down in front. Get off your *** and stand up and show support for your team. I understand you most likely have had a hip replaced, or two, but so has my mother in law and she's pretty active.

 

[frankygoes69]

Exactly. I take my mom to at least one game a year and she is 77 years old. She stands, yells, and claps throughout the game. Like I said, those S.D.I.Fr's. will be gone soon enough.

 

[dshans]

But who will replace them? You may find a "new" generation more amenable to the glitz and glitter, but time takes its toll. Does your mother stand and scream throughout the game?

Again, the number of students and younger, rabid, vocal, standing fans who can afford the price of tickets, travel, lodging and dining falls far short of filling the stadium. Should the seating capacity of the stadium be increased do you envision that there will also be a filtering algorithm that separates standers from sitters to assign seats? What might the metric be between fans standing, clapping and yelling continuously and fans sitting, clapping and yelling as need be; as appropriate.

Hell, why not install Laz-E-Boy stand assist chairs, remotely controlled, throughout the stadium. I suspect that there are fewer "down-in-fronters" than anecdotally reported here.

 

[frankygoes69]

My mother does what she can at her age. I'm not sure how many 70+ year old mothers can tell you who the QB of ND is, who the ND HC is, or does like the 3rd down empty backfield but she does. I can not tell you what the next generation will be like, nor can I tell you that installing a "Laz-E Boy" will be beneficial, (sarcasm) noted. What I can tell you is that 'down-in-fronters" will dissolve and maybe for a short time the ones with energy will prevail!

Now, lets put the shoe on the other hand. There are probably more people who stand, cheer, and shout during a football game than there are people who seem like they would rather be watching a chess match.

From my experience playing organized sports, I would rather the crowed be energized then sit in silence. So, no "Laz E Boys" just all out cheering and shouting.

 

[frankygoes69]

An add on,

Who wants to go to a football game where you can't scream, cheer, and express your feeling? If that person exists, please go to a movie or watch a recorded game in the luxury of your own living room.

Also, if your in my house watching ND play, you better sound off for one of the teams. Otherwise we will sit and watch the grass grow, rain fall, leaves fall, or anything other than sports.

 

[dshans]

... I would rather the crowed be energized then sit in silence. So, no "Laz E Boys" just all out cheering and shouting.

I applaud you and your mother. Hell, I stand and jump and clap and yell for you and your mother. My point is that much of "the crowd" that buys the tickets and fills the majority of the seats is either unable or unwilling to stand at all times. One can sit, clap, yell and see the field and plays.

A few years ago I went to the Utah game. A group of about six "youngsters" in front of me stood throughout much of the game. They weren't cheering. They were texting/tweeting and calling friends about matters unrelated to the game. I never hit them with "down in front." Is this the future you envision?