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Rand Paul said they planted stuff.

Both he and Rubio are going to keep their seats easily this November. Incredible that this kind of lying has become completely normal.

What did Trump have and what was he going to do with it? There's a question no one seems to care about.
I don’t think we’ll ever be told what the documents were related to.
 
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I agree but let not pretend the other side is full of integrity and live in the glass house. Both side just want to win elections to line their pockets. Truth only matters in politics when it’s convenient.
Only one side tried to overturn an election and only one side backs a wannabe dictator
 

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This man needs to go away. I feel like poking the bear might be a good strategy to make him run. I hope the man gets indicted or charged with something so Republicans can just move on.
I don't know, I think he was right. He could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Ave and not lost a single vote. His cult is full of idiots.
 

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In other words if he pulled out a gun and shot someone on 5th Avenue, you really wouldn’t care. He tried to conduct a coup. He can’t not be prosecuted.
:laugh: Nice try. I don't really care about Trump, but I do think it's funny that two years after he lost you guys can't get him out of your head. I do enjoy the reactions, it's entertainment. I don't think you guys have yet realized the harder you fight, investigate, and try to impeach the guy the more likely he wins another primary. Recent CNN polling shows the Jan 6th hearings haven't changed opinions much or at all, and there were actually more Republicans convinced in February earlier this year that Jan 6th was a major problem and that democracy was under attack. If there wasn't such a strong push to oust him from the start he probably would have faded away after the pandemic ended up tanking his re-election bid.

Hard to conduct a coup if you aren't even there to take part, and you're sending mixed messages like "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." That's a call to violence if I've ever heard one! You'd think such an upheaval of the government with the most powerful military in the world would take an organized army with a clear plan, communication, and actual weapons instead of flag poles.

If it's any consolation, the poll said most GOP want a new candidate to win the spot, and I hope that happens too. The Trump 24/7 news cycle can be exhausting, but part of me wonders if this isn't just the new normal.
 

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Democratic Party is in charge of Twitter?
You'd think so after the tears their employees were shedding when the Elon Musk takeover was still on the table. Twitter has no agenda, that's why Trump got a ban and they let 44,000 terrorists and violent organizations continue to use the platform until they were called out on it 6 months ago. It wasn't just Twitter though, it was Facebook, Instagram, Youtube, Twitch, Snapchat, it was all Big Tech which is largely in the Democrats' pockets. The only platforms he's not banned on are conservative ones.
 

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You'd think so after the tears their employees were shedding when the Elon Musk takeover was still on the table. Twitter has no agenda, that's why Trump got a ban and they let 44,000 terrorists and violent organizations continue to use the platform until they were called out on it 6 months ago. It wasn't just Twitter though, it was Facebook, Instagram, Youtube, Twitch, Snapchat, it was all Big Tech which is largely in the Democrats' pockets. The only platforms he's not banned on are conservative ones.
Using social media to recruit “patriots” to an insurrection apparently comes with consequences. Who knew?
 

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Using social media to recruit “patriots” to an insurrection apparently comes with consequences. Who knew?
Call me when he's charged and found guilty. It's been almost 2 years and they've let him golf away down in Florida. You'd think Garland would get off his ass if they had a concrete case.
 

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You'd think so after the tears their employees were shedding when the Elon Musk takeover was still on the table. Twitter has no agenda, that's why Trump got a ban and they let 44,000 terrorists and violent organizations continue to use the platform until they were called out on it 6 months ago. It wasn't just Twitter though, it was Facebook, Instagram, Youtube, Twitch, Snapchat, it was all Big Tech which is largely in the Democrats' pockets. The only platforms he's not banned on are conservative ones.
Long way of saying "no".
 

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Call me when he's charged and found guilty. It's been almost 2 years and they've let him golf away down in Florida. You'd think Garland would get off his ass if they had a concrete case.
Apparently the platforms think he’s guilty. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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Uh, not only twitter but also Facebook! Woke liberals like Franklin Graham and Charlie Kirk! Pretty neat algorithm used to track the top 10 most popular linked articles on Facebook.

I guess the woke activists on Twitter were pushing conservative view points because....? Twitter admits bias in algorithm for rightwing politicians and news outlets

Idk tho, source dude-trust-me does make a convincing argument.

Context. We are near the middle of August in 2022 not October 2020 when a running presidential candidate was kicked off and Hunter Biden “disinformation” or really any information got you kicked off.
 

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In a democracy there are only a few things one can do to undermine it illegal or not or whether it can be charged as a crime or not. Overthrowing a free and fair election and upsetting the peaceful transition of power are two of those and they aren’t even in the same ball park as a politically biased social media narrative. And I wonder how we gif here in the first place. Now I don’t. Jfc. This is insane.

If you value democracy and all that it’s founded then you have to accept The GOP and Donald Trump stood over top of it and shit all over it. Then smeared that shit with their boots and then marched that shit all over our nation. They took this shit to Arizona, Georgia, Pa, Wisconsin and Michigan and smeared that shit there too. The stink of this will not wash away anytime soon and it’s stuck to the GOP like the shit sticks to shoes. Deal with it.
 

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Historically, nobody gets any substantial penalties for a crime related to possession of records. However, someone posted earlier about Trump enacted a law early on in his administration regarding records. I have no clue what the impact is.

It all goes back to the question of ..... if you are going to raid a residence of a former President, it would seem like there better be the possibility of serious punishment given the optics.
Yeah… well it does depend on what those records were and why Trump lied to keep them even after knowing the penalty and that the National Archives has already visited once before to take what they thought was all of the documents.

I posted earlier that in response to His hatred of HRC, Trump increased the withholding of records penalty from a one year crime to a five year felony.
 
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In a democracy there are only a few things one can do to undermine it illegal or not or whether it can be charged as a crime or not. Overthrowing a free and fair election and upsetting the peaceful transition of power are two of those and they aren’t even in the same ball park as a politically biased social media narrative. And I wonder how we gif here in the first place. Now I don’t. Jfc. This is insane.

If you value democracy and all that it’s founded then you have to accept The GOP and Donald Trump stood over top of it and shit all over it. Then smeared that shit with their boots and then marched that shit all over our nation. They took this shit to Arizona, Georgia, Pa, Wisconsin and Michigan and smeared that shit there too. The stink of this will not wash away anytime soon and it’s stuck to the GOP like the shit sticks to shoes. Deal with it.
Sadly, this is true. Trumps actions while he tried to hang on to power are inexcusable. Basically calling for Pence's head is insane. His advisors told him there is no basis for overturning the election, he basically said screw you and did whatever the hell he wanted to.

I have a much bigger issue with Trump than I do with the Jan 6 protesters. I have a problem with his gangster style of politics. There was a former member of Trump's cabinet that had a slightly critical critique of a Trump decision. Trump basically tried to destroy them. Standard operating procedure. If Trump doesn't feel that he has your 110% support, he will come at you with full force. It's bullying and intimidation. He's done it a thousand times. He does it to everyone. He's done it to the Republican party for 6 years. If you think he cares one ounce about Christians or average Joe American, I got a bridge to sell you. He only cares about himself and his ego. Cross him if you dare.

As a conservative Republican, I've routinely pointed at the Democrats and said they need to clean up their house if they want to be taken seriously. Violence in the black community? You first step is to call out the police? My response is you need to clean up your house. If Republicans want to be taken seriously, we need to clean up our house.
 

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In a democracy there are only a few things one can do to undermine it illegal or not or whether it can be charged as a crime or not. Overthrowing a free and fair election and upsetting the peaceful transition of power are two of those and they aren’t even in the same ball park as a politically biased social media narrative. And I wonder how we gif here in the first place. Now I don’t. Jfc. This is insane.

If you value democracy and all that it’s founded then you have to accept The GOP and Donald Trump stood over top of it and shit all over it. Then smeared that shit with their boots and then marched that shit all over our nation. They took this shit to Arizona, Georgia, Pa, Wisconsin and Michigan and smeared that shit there too. The stink of this will not wash away anytime soon and it’s stuck to the GOP like the shit sticks to shoes. Deal with it.
So when Justice finally comes for these traitors I hope it comes with a fair warning something like this 😂

 
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Sadly, this is true. Trumps actions while he tried to hang on to power are inexcusable. Basically calling for Pence's head is insane. His advisors told him there is no basis for overturning the election, he basically said screw you and did whatever the hell he wanted to.

I have a much bigger issue with Trump than I do with the Jan 6 protesters. I have a problem with his gangster style of politics. There was a former member of Trump's cabinet that had a slightly critical critique of a Trump decision. Trump basically tried to destroy them. Standard operating procedure. If Trump doesn't feel that he has your 110% support, he will come at you with full force. It's bullying and intimidation. He's done it a thousand times. He does it to everyone. He's done it to the Republican party for 6 years. If you think he cares one ounce about Christians or average Joe American, I got a bridge to sell you. He only cares about himself and his ego. Cross him if you dare.

As a conservative Republican, I've routinely pointed at the Democrats and said they need to clean up their house if they want to be taken seriously. Violence in the black community? You first step is to call out the police? My response is you need to clean up your house. If Republicans want to be taken seriously, we need to clean up our house.
Well said. I’ve always been amazed regarding the short memory of the general public. Before he was elected POTUS, he was the high stakes real estate mogul turned reality TV star who loved to rub elbows w/ the Liberal Elites on the cable TV news show or the network shows like “The View”. They loved him b/c he was entertaining. He was also (and still is IMO) the furthest thing from a conservative Christian as one can get. I’d bet dollars to donuts, that he’s paid for multiple abortions. TBF, I don’t know what’s in the man’s heart but his actions the past 7 years lead me to believe he will say or do whatever it takes to “win”. I recall that he always claimed to be a moderate Democrat before switching sides. He played the Republican voters like a fiddle b/c he saw that as the easiest path to the WH and a large number of them bought his shtick hook, line & sinker.

Again, TBF; had he stayed off social media & not lead w/ ego/emotions, he probably gets re-elected b/c his policies were arguably working compared to the unfulfilled promises his predecessors made (R or D). But Trump is all about Trump. Ironically, all the nerds on the Republican stage back in 2015 trying to expose him were right. Problem is, the voting public doesn’t trust them either as they all came off as milquetoast attorneys who came of an assembly line of politicians that slaps an R or a D on every other pol.
 

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You'd think so after the tears their employees were shedding when the Elon Musk takeover was still on the table. Twitter has no agenda, that's why Trump got a ban and they let 44,000 terrorists and violent organizations continue to use the platform until they were called out on it 6 months ago. It wasn't just Twitter though, it was Facebook, Instagram, Youtube, Twitch, Snapchat, it was all Big Tech which is largely in the Democrats' pockets. The only platforms he's not banned on are conservative ones.

These idiots can't even admit out loud that Russia Collusion was a hoax. Tell them what they want to hear and they will slobber on themselves licking it up. Anyone's opinion on this FBI raid is invalid if they do not admit FBI involvement in the Russia Collusion hoax. I am not even asking you to admit that was treasonous and undermined our peaceful transfer of power - just admit the FBI lied and worked with Dems to perpetuate a hoax. If you can't admit that -then your opinion on the integrity of this raid is laughably irrelevant.
 

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In a democracy there are only a few things one can do to undermine it illegal or not or whether it can be charged as a crime or not. Overthrowing a free and fair election and upsetting the peaceful transition of power are two of those and they aren’t even in the same ball park as a politically biased social media narrative. And I wonder how we gif here in the first place. Now I don’t. Jfc. This is insane.

If you value democracy and all that it’s founded then you have to accept The GOP and Donald Trump stood over top of it and shit all over it. Then smeared that shit with their boots and then marched that shit all over our nation. They took this shit to Arizona, Georgia, Pa, Wisconsin and Michigan and smeared that shit there too. The stink of this will not wash away anytime soon and it’s stuck to the GOP like the shit sticks to shoes. Deal with it.
Kevin McCarthy is already promising that should they gain a majority again, they're going to go full throttle and will obstruct justice. Same Kevin McCarthy that admitted the Benghazi hearings were done to drop HRC's numbers in the polls. Everything gets said out loud now.

Then you have Ron DeSantis waiting in the wings. That guy is a daily flex of eviscerated checks and balances if there ever was, and winning another term equals "mandate" for him. Florida schools are going to have janitors who voted for Kanye teaching social studies. Fun times.

Never should have come to this, but this is decades of malfeasance coming to a boil. Trump was just a symptom. He was never the disease.
 

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Kevin McCarthy is already promising that should they gain a majority again, they're going to go full throttle and will obstruct justice. Same Kevin McCarthy that admitted the Benghazi hearings were done to drop HRC's numbers in the polls. Everything gets said out loud now.

Then you have Ron DeSantis waiting in the wings. That guy is a daily flex of eviscerated checks and balances if there ever was, and winning another term equals "mandate" for him. Florida schools are going to have janitors who voted for Kanye teaching social studies. Fun times.

Never should have come to this, but this is decades of malfeasance coming to a boil. Trump was just a symptom. He was never the disease.
Right. The GOP is gonna go full throat political retribution if they ever get power again…. like I see even moderate Republicans saying DeSantis is a good choice. Bro has been doing everything Trump did just in a smarter way. I’d find a DeSantis presidency sickening. His bigotry against lGTBQ among other things not withstanding…

What scares me the most is that with all the things Trump did and has not been held accountable for was really a dry run for what’s coming next for the GOP all over the nation. They are already claiming foul on elections all over the country ( even their own primaries). They prodded the loop holes know where they failed and how they failed. They won’t make those mistakes again…

They know their agenda is extreme. They saw in Kansas that the abortion platform is a total no go if put to a public referendum so I think that will be the last red state to put it on a referendum which leaves them strictly legislating it against public will.

Our democracy is still under threat IMO
 
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These idiots can't even admit out loud that Russia Collusion was a hoax. Tell them what they want to hear and they will slobber on themselves licking it up. Anyone's opinion on this FBI raid is invalid if they do not admit FBI involvement in the Russia Collusion hoax. I am not even asking you to admit that was treasonous and undermined our peaceful transfer of power - just admit the FBI lied and worked with Dems to perpetuate a hoax. If you can't admit that -then your opinion on the integrity of this raid is laughably irrelevant.
I’m guessing you didn’t read the GOP led Senate Select Committee report on the Russia Colluion issue. You can’t have because no a single word in this clown show could be credibly typed out with a serious face.

The fifth and final volume of the Select Intelligence Committee’s bipartisan report on Russian interference in the 2016 election is an incredibly long and detailed document. At a whopping 966 pages, volume 5 alone is more than twice the length of the Mueller report, and it covers a great deal more ground.

It is important for another reason: Along with the shorter volumes 1-4, the Senate’s report is the only credible account of the events of 2016 to which Republican elected officials have signed their names.
A Collusion Reading Diary: What Did the Senate Intelligence Committee Find?

This article summarizes their findings and also links to the 5th volume which was released without much GOP fanfare. Even this summary gives your clown post the business
 
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Right. The GOP is gonna go full throat political retribution if they ever get power again…. like I see even moderate Republicans saying DeSantis is a good choice. Bro has been doing everything Trump did just in a smarter way. I’d find a DeSantis presidency sickening. His bigotry against lGTBQ among other things not withstanding…

What scares me the most is that with all the things Trump did and has not been held accountable for was really a dry run for what’s coming next for the GOP all over the nation. They are already claiming foul on elections all over the country ( even their own primaries). They prodded the loop holes know where they failed and how they failed. They won’t make those mistakes again…

They know their agenda is extreme. They saw in Kansas that the abortion platform is a total no go if put to a public referendum so I think that will be the last red state to put it on a referendum which leaves them strictly legislating it against public will.

Our democracy is still under threat IMO
Is there any republican that you would not find sickening?
 

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Is there any republican that you would not find sickening?
Yes. I’ve voted for many Republicans before. Not that anyone on here would believe me.

But currently the party as a whole is way to anti democratic for liking and it’s tendencies toward an autocrat to pwn the libtards is a bridge too far for me.
 
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