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I think you are conflating questionable ethical behavior with illegal behavior.

Do you really think if there was anything criminal here that Barr wouldn’t have filed charges months ago?

All these “blockbuster investigations” have come up with squat.

Not conflating anything.

What is "questionable"? It's at minimum unethical. There's no question that Hunter had no skills/experience to warrant those jobs. There's no question he was hired because of his dad. There's no question his dad knew. There's no question his dad was told it looked bad and was a concern.

None of that is questionable. At minimum, it's unethical, slimy, swampy, etc..

What is questionable is if it went farther. No one who is being intellectually honest believes Joe didn't know.

What is conflating, is the silliness of what is clearly wrong, vs illegal.

And the treatment by the media and SM is completely hypocritical. They fully embraced the reporting of an unverified dossier paid for by an political opponent, yet totally bury the sharing of the latest crap about Hunter.

Note - Save the following for your YJ file....

I have no illusion that these emails/laptop, and stories may turn out to be pure BS. Absolutely zero illusion. But, they need to proven BS. And they should be reported on.
 

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I think you are conflating questionable ethical behavior with illegal behavior.

Do you really think if there was anything criminal here that Barr wouldn’t have filed charges months ago?

All these “blockbuster investigations” have come up with squat.

Haven't followed the story but the answer is yes. It's incredibly rare our elite face consequences for their behavior.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Twitter Shuts Down Entire Network To Slow Spread Of Negative Biden News <a href="https://t.co/JPmjOrKPcr">https://t.co/JPmjOrKPcr</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheBabylonBee</a> Wow, this has never been done in history. This includes his really bad interview last night. Why is Twitter doing this. Bringing more attention to Sleepy Joe & Big T</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1317044556328730625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes, that's Trump tweeting a satire site as real news. The Babylon Bee is quite funny, and akin to The Onion.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Twitter Shuts Down Entire Network To Slow Spread Of Negative Biden News <a href="https://t.co/JPmjOrKPcr">https://t.co/JPmjOrKPcr</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheBabylonBee</a> Wow, this has never been done in history. This includes his really bad interview last night. Why is Twitter doing this. Bringing more attention to Sleepy Joe & Big T</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1317044556328730625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes, that's Trump tweeting a satire site as real news. The Babylon Bee is quite funny, and akin to The Onion.

Maybe now I believe him that he truly doesn't know who QAnon is.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Twitter Shuts Down Entire Network To Slow Spread Of Negative Biden News <a href="https://t.co/JPmjOrKPcr">https://t.co/JPmjOrKPcr</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheBabylonBee</a> Wow, this has never been done in history. This includes his really bad interview last night. Why is Twitter doing this. Bringing more attention to Sleepy Joe & Big T</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1317044556328730625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes, that's Trump tweeting a satire site as real news. The Babylon Bee is quite funny, and akin to The Onion.

Gonna guess sarcasm here lol..

and there's this..

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">President Trump Declares The Babylon Bee His Most-Trusted News Source <a href="https://t.co/oObdxaH3w6">https://t.co/oObdxaH3w6</a></p>— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1317066572310130689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big Tech Fights Election Interference By Interfering In Election <a href="https://t.co/NiVh9ddY2b">https://t.co/NiVh9ddY2b</a></p>— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1316801199241334784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

had to include this just cause it made me lol
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">L.A. Lakers To Hold Victory Parade In New Hometown Of Beijing <a href="https://t.co/7HYHZHBNo5">https://t.co/7HYHZHBNo5</a></p>— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1316419749245579272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Twitter Shuts Down Entire Network To Slow Spread Of Negative Biden News <a href="https://t.co/JPmjOrKPcr">https://t.co/JPmjOrKPcr</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheBabylonBee</a> Wow, this has never been done in history. This includes his really bad interview last night. Why is Twitter doing this. Bringing more attention to Sleepy Joe & Big T</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1317044556328730625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes, that's Trump tweeting a satire site as real news. The Babylon Bee is quite funny, and akin to The Onion.


you can't make this stuff up. He will undoubtedly go down as the biggest joke of President of all time.
The worst there is, the worst there ever was, and the worst there ever will be.
 

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you can't make this stuff up. He will undoubtedly go down as the biggest joke of President of all time.
The worst there is, the worst there ever was, and the worst there ever will be.

Idk..lib fact checker sites on numerous occasions have fact checked the Bee. So if journos have trouble identifying the satire, its really not that surprising that our lovely President scrolling through his Twitter may fall victim to it as well. Lol not a good look though.

Regarding worst Presidents, idk how one would really come up with a metric for that. They all get dealt a different hand and unfortunately the job has changed radically since the GOAT Calvin Coolidge was in office.
 

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I think you are conflating questionable ethical behavior with illegal behavior.

Do you really think if there was anything criminal here that Barr wouldn’t have filed charges months ago?

All these “blockbuster investigations” have come up with squat.

You realize Trump was impeached because the Democrats accused him of doing what Biden actually did.
 

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Idk..lib fact checker sites on numerous occasions have fact checked the Bee. So if journos have trouble identifying the satire, its really not that surprising that our lovely President scrolling through his Twitter may fall victim to it as well. Lol not a good look though.

Regarding worst Presidents, idk how one would really come up with a metric for that. They all get dealt a different hand and unfortunately the job has changed radically since the GOAT Calvin Coolidge was in office.

How many people on the Left including MSM have tweeted at the Sean Spicier parody twitter account? The guy who runs it is so proud he lists everyone who has fallen for his tweets in his header. They get so hot they fail to notice the spelling of the last name on the account not actually being Spicer.
 

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Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha.

Can't wait for him to instruct Bill Barr to prosecute those Twitter perps. Yes, this has never happened in the history of the Presidency.
 

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Yes, that's Trump tweeting a satire site as real news. The Babylon Bee is quite funny, and akin to The Onion.

Trump's mentioned The Babylon Bee before and laughed about some of their articles. He's clearly aware it's a satire site. He's making a joke here and trolling. BTW, I agree with you. It and the Onion are often very funny and well done. The World News Daily Report, a similar site, is also pretty funny.
 

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Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha.

Can't wait for him to instruct Bill Barr to prosecute those Twitter perps. Yes, this has never happened in the history of the Presidency.

Bill Barr as a boogeyman is very 2018.


Much like how I wish Catholics were 10% as cool as libs make us sound, I wish the GOP was 10% as authoritarian as you people make them sound.
 

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You realize Trump was impeached because the Democrats accused him of doing what Biden actually did.


Doesn't change my view point, I could write a thesis on to the reasons why. No need for that. The 2 party system is divisive by nature.
 

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You realize Trump was impeached because the Democrats accused him of doing what Biden actually did.

What did Biden actually do? Based on what I’ve read he was pressuring the Ukraine to can a corrupt prosecutor who refused to look into corruption including that at Burisma. That’s quite different than what Trump was getting at with his request for an investigation of a political opponent using his personal attorney as the point person.

If Biden committed some crime then by all means have Barr move forward pressing charges. The current FBI director and DOJ (all Trump appointees) haven’t found anything criminal and the GOP lead Senate inquiry that was supposed to blow the lid off things related to this was more of a sparkler that an M 80.

Meanwhile those directly involved in the Trump campaign keep ending up in jail and getting indicted. Trump is an unnamed coconspirator in one of those cases, had to dissolve his Non Profit due to criminal behavior and has an open investigation in the State of NY looking at him.

I get there’s shit bags on both sides but Orange Man is the king of the shit bags by a demonstrable margin.

If you want to clean up the shit you might want to start with the biggest pile.

Just my opinion of course.
 
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Hey look at this. So much for the “tough on China” bullshit and it turns out the GOP has its own “Hunter Biden” as it relates to China. Dude actually killed 2 people in a car crash. He ran the Trump campaign in Iowa.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...sodeGuid=70d4703b-8fe2-45d9-afd6-ed7fde314546

Ahh yes, the Deconstructed podcast. Part of the left leaning Intercept which gets low marks for their fact checking. I think I'll save my time, but you do you. This would be like one of the Conservatives here suggesting an OAN podcast to you.
 

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Hey look at this. So much for the “tough on China” bullshit and it turns out the GOP has its own “Hunter Biden” as it relates to China. Dude actually killed 2 people in a car crash. He ran the Trump campaign in Iowa.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...sodeGuid=70d4703b-8fe2-45d9-afd6-ed7fde314546

Killed someone in a car crash, wut? That's always been a dem thingy? lol

If you want to be dishonest and ignore the clear policy changes against China, go right ahead.

I'd love to hear your honest comparison of policy and direct commentary on China by Trump vs Obama/Biden. I mean, didn't Biden say China is no threat, and their financial domination is a good thing lol...
 

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Ahh yes, the Deconstructed podcast. Part of the left leaning Intercept which gets low marks for their fact checking. I think I'll save my time, but you do you. This would be like one of the Conservatives here suggesting an OAN podcast to you.

Who fact checks Trump?
He said " We are turning a corner in Covid"
That's completely not true.
Covid 19 going through the White House a month before the election is like General Sherman marching down on the Confederates during the Civil War.
Just completely demoralized.
 

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Killed someone in a car crash, wut? That's always been a dem thingy? lol

If you want to be dishonest and ignore the clear policy changes against China, go right ahead.

I'd love to hear your honest comparison of policy and direct commentary on China by Trump vs Obama/Biden. I mean, didn't Biden say China is no threat, and their financial domination is a good thing lol...

I take from your response you didn’t bother listening to the podcast.

Google Eric Brandstat. He did in fact kill two people and ran two other vehicles off the road making an illegal lane change. He walked away paying less than $100 in fines. His dad who went on to become Trumps ambassador to China was the governor at the time.

The “big” policy changes against China have been largely hot air and as the Intercept points out the “getting tough on China” bullshit quickly goes out the window if it will directly benefit Trumps cronies financially.

Nothing has changed fundamentally. .
 
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Ahh yes, the Deconstructed podcast. Part of the left leaning Intercept which gets low marks for their fact checking. I think I'll save my time, but you do you. This would be like one of the Conservatives here suggesting an OAN podcast to you.

I take it you didn’t even bother listening to it. Glenn Greenwald who works at the Intercept has been the one reporter who was the most critical of the Russian Investigation I have heard. He also won a Pulitzer Prize. So, yeah comparing The Intercept to OAN is stupid and lazy.
 

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I take it you didn’t even bother listening to it. Glenn Greenwald who works at the Intercept has been the one reporter who was the most critical of the Russian Investigation I have heard. He also won a Pulitzer Prize. So, yeah comparing The Intercept to OAN is stupid and lazy.

I have no idea who Andy Ngo/OANN/Jack Posobiec/QAnon/Ian Miles Cheong are but, here's a tweet thread from them.
 

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I have no idea who Andy Ngo/OANN/Jack Posobiec/QAnon/Ian Miles Cheong are but, here's a tweet thread from them.

Lol. I saw a similar takedown of the Trump admin regarding crony capitalism and the “getting tough on China” rhetoric the other day on Fox of all places.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/trump-tiktok-and-crony-capitalism-11600639766

Here’s the Wall Street journal making the same point with the “Tick Tock ban”. From what I understand the Chinese tech company ByteDance would get to keep writing the code for the entire platform based on the “deal” Trump has been pushing. Lol
 
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I take it you didn’t even bother listening to it. Glenn Greenwald who works at the Intercept has been the one reporter who was the most critical of the Russian Investigation I have heard. He also won a Pulitzer Prize. So, yeah comparing The Intercept to OAN is stupid and lazy.

The Intercept is rated as a left leaning, poor fact checking organization by independent media bias sites. Don't know what to tell ya, but if you enjoy your bubble then I say don't leave it. I try to stay away from those "journalists," whether they're conservative or liberal. They're gonna feed you the spin you want to hear.

Also, how many Pulitzer Prizes have been awarded to conservatives in recent decades? I'll wait. It's like expecting the Heisman to go to the best player when it always goes to the most popular QB.
 
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I take from your response you didn’t bother listening to the podcast.

Google Eric Brandstat. He did in fact kill two people and ran two other vehicles off the road making an illegal lane change. He walked away paying less than $100 in fines. His dad who went on to become Trumps ambassador to China was the governor at the time.

The “big” policy changes against China have been largely hot air and as the Intercept points out the “getting tough on China” bullshit quickly goes out the window if it will directly benefit Trumps cronies financially.

Nothing has changed fundamentally. .

Dude, come on. Trump applied tariffs and started a trade war with them. He's constantly harping on their WTO status. He's the first president since the 70s to speak to Taiwan. He's put all kinds of restrictions on China's tech companies. His constant jabs of China Flu. He ended Hong Kong's preferential treatment. He's increased military in the Taiwan straight.

Obama/Biden/Clinton did dick.
 
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