Trump Presidency

[sharksamardzija8345]

DRAIN THE SWAMP!! /s

 

[Legacy]

With Trump's veto and the Republicans in the House failed to advance a measure that would increase stimulus checks to Americans included in the omnibus bill, looks like we are heading towards a government shutdown on Tuesday.

We'll see if they override Trump's veto of the Defense bill or their funding stops too.

 

[Irish YJ]

Who is more dangerous

A) The ego maniac narcissist lying idiot that 90% of the media attacks, and only 5% take serious.

B) the ego maniac narcissist lying idiot that is "presidential" and coats his lies in sugar, 90% of the media fawns over, and 50% take serious.

 

[Old Man Mike]

That depends almost entirely on how much of a loose cannon either person is. Trump is obviously the poster child of a loose cannon as far as international security secrets and operations are concerned, so the answer reveals itself easily.

The "Media take" when it comes to matters like this is utterly irrelevant and it astounds me that anyone really continues to put that forward. FOX or CNN or their listeners are NOT going to create these international security policies and operations.

 

[Irish YJ]

That depends almost entirely on how much of a loose cannon either person is. Trump is obviously the poster child of a loose cannon as far as international security secrets and operations are concerned, so the answer reveals itself easily.

The "Media take" when it comes to matters like this is utterly irrelevant and it astounds me that anyone really continues to put that forward. FOX or CNN or their listeners are NOT going to create these international security policies and operations.

We've haven't gotten ourselves into another war in the last 4 years. We've killed a couple terrorists, and that's about it. We've also stopped subsidizing unneedy "friends" who have been unwilling to help themselves.

As far as the media, I could care less. I care about the actual policy and end result. The media running cover for a president, which they obviously do, is harmful from either side. It does however have a sizeable slant, and that's not factoring in big tech also putting their gigantic thumb on the scale.

In short, security wise, unless you're listening to career liars like Brennan, Clapper, and the other guys with Military Ind Complex, who will milk MSM guest appearance payments, and retire to be arms makers or the lobby, I don't see any true security threats created or ignored by Trump. Unless you're still stuck thinking a bankrupt and failing Russia is a bigger concern than China... The MSM goes out of their way not to report on China, and other countries, in lieu of Russia, Russia, Russia. It's pretty hilarious.

 

[Old Man Mike]

incredible
Thinking that he is made privy to any of the details and continuous on-the-ground workings, or that he would even give a sh!t about putting in the intense work of understanding that.

we have "avoided" terrorist disasters due to deep intel operations --- without any "help" from Trump. Posterchild loose cannon Trump would especially NOT be made privy to these detailed actions.

 

[Irish YJ]

So I guess, Joe, "China is our friend" Biden will be far superior and put in the work. If you're going to ignore his (and predecessors) long list of INTL policy blunders, not sure your label of "poster boy" is all that meaningful.

Sorry, but your whole take is pretty "incredible". Just so I'm getting you "right".... the proceeding leaders that had bad shit happen, were great and put in the work. Wasn't their fault.. Trump hasn't had anything happen, and it's simply because deep intel operations and luck..

You're literally reading off the MSNBC/CNN teleprompter. I'll be glad when the boogie man is gone, and all the faux outrage can stop. Then when bad stuff happens, folks can pretend like they always have.

 

[NEIIrish]

incredible
Thinking that he is made privy to any of the details and continuous on-the-ground workings, or that he would even give a sh!t about putting in the intense work of understanding that.

we have "avoided" terrorist disasters due to deep intel operations --- without any "help" from Trump. Posterchild loose cannon Trump would especially NOT be made privy to these detailed actions.

Please stop with your sanctimonious bs. It’s getting pathetic.

 

[IrishLax]

So I guess, Joe, "China is our friend" Biden will be far superior and put in the work. If you're going to ignore his (and predecessors) long list of INTL policy blunders, not sure your label of "poster boy" is all that meaningful.

Sorry, but your whole take is pretty "incredible". Just so I'm getting you "right".... the proceeding leaders that had bad shit happen, were great and put in the work. Wasn't their fault.. Trump hasn't had anything happen, and it's simply because deep intel operations and luck..

You're literally reading off the MSNBC/CNN teleprompter. I'll be glad when the boogie man is gone, and all the faux outrage can stop. Then when bad stuff happens, folks can pretend like they always have.

I find it pretty sad that you have no comment whatsoever on Trump pardoning child murderers and corrupt politicians but have the audacity to complain about the Left having "faux" outrage. As if it's not legitimate to be very concerned over what we are currently witnessing on so many different levels.

 

[NorthDakota]

I find it pretty sad that you have no comment whatsoever on Trump pardoning child murderers and corrupt politicians but have the audacity to complain about the Left having "faux" outrage. As if it's not legitimate to be very concerned over what we are currently witnessing on so many different levels.

The thing is...the concern is silly. Every President pardons criminals. All of them are convicted of something. If he pardoned the Boston Bomber or something...OK sure. These dudes got convicted for some stuff that apparently went down in Iraq right? Yeah....not really something I give any shits about.

But him pardoning a bunch of dudes most folks have never heard of isn't going to have a negative impact on the fabric of the country (which is already torn up to begin with).

 

[TorontoGold]

I find it pretty sad that you have no comment whatsoever on Trump pardoning child murderers and corrupt politicians but have the audacity to complain about the Left having "faux" outrage. As if it's not legitimate to be very concerned over what we are currently witnessing on so many different levels.

If it's a clump of cells inside a woman, all hell breaks loose. If it's a brown kid in the desert? Fuck em, who cares.

 

[Irish YJ]

I find it pretty sad that you have no comment whatsoever on Trump pardoning child murderers and corrupt politicians but have the audacity to complain about the Left having "faux" outrage. As if it's not legitimate to be very concerned over what we are currently witnessing on so many different levels.

If you're talking about the Blackwater guys, it's a pretty muddy situation if you know the details.

How about Obama pardoning or commuting Oscar Rivera, who led an organization responsible for over 100 bombings in NY, Chicago and elsewhere. Clinton wanted to commute it too. Clinton also pardoned/commuted members of Weather Underground, who also had a slew of bombings/deaths. Both pardoned buddies, and Clinton even pardoned/commuted folks that kept their mouth shut during the Whitewater prosecution.

Why are folks just now "concerned", yet never gave previous admins doings a second thought.

 

[Irish YJ]

If it's a clump of cells inside a woman, all hell breaks loose. If it's a brown kid in the desert? Fuck em, who cares.

Any loss of life is horrible. I'm not diminishing the loss of life by any kid anywhere. If you know about the Blackwater investigation/prosecution, you know it was muddy. And I'm not a fan of private contractors period, but that's another topic. I'm guessing you have zero clue though, and just looked for an opportunity to jump in and chirp. Merry Christmas.

 

[NorthDakota]

If it's a clump of cells inside a woman, all hell breaks loose. If it's a brown kid in the desert? Fuck em, who cares.

One would need to explain to me what these guys actually did. Shit happens in war, which itself is bad hell...we dropped nukes and firebombed cities for the sole purpose of killing women and kids in WW2 and we were the good guys.

I'd need to know what these guys did before getting upset is the main point. Most abortions in the United States anyway, are disproportiately skewed towards people with skin of a browner shade. There is probably a better argument its geared towards poor folks rather than skin tone but thats another discussion entirely.

If you pardon a dude most folks have never heard of, it ain't gonna make waves or do any damage.

 

[Legacy]

Who is more dangerous

A) The ego maniac narcissist lying idiot that 90% of the media attacks, and only 5% take serious.

B) the ego maniac narcissist lying idiot that is "presidential" and coats his lies in sugar, 90% of the media fawns over, and 50% take serious.

We decided that in November.

He's been given an eviction notice. He seems to be on track to ensuring that others will get theirs in a narcissistic rage.

 

[NorthDakota]

We decided that in November.

He's been given an eviction notice. He seems to be on track to ensuring that others will get theirs in a narcissistic rage.

I dont think it was really decided (not that the election wasnt), but the previous election was a fairly similar situation and went the other way.

 

[IrishLax]

If you're talking about the Blackwater guys, it's a pretty muddy situation if you know the details.

How about Obama pardoning or commuting Oscar Rivera, who led an organization responsible for over 100 bombings in NY, Chicago and elsewhere. Clinton wanted to commute it too. Clinton also pardoned/commuted members of Weather Underground, who also had a slew of bombings/deaths. Both pardoned buddies, and Clinton even pardoned/commuted folks that kept their mouth shut during the Whitewater prosecution.

Why are folks just now "concerned", yet never gave previous admins doings a second thought.

The pardons happening now are categorically different than what we've seen from past presidents (with the notable exception of Marc Rich). The Blackwater situation isn't "muddy"... just look at the comments from the FBI investigators on the case and the fact that they were serving life sentences for murdering women and children. Nor are the pardons of corrupt Republican Congressmen. Trump promises to drain the swamp... then pardons swamp creatures because they said nice things about him or were "loyal" while committing their crimes.

We are witnessing unprecedented abuse of the pardon process and pretending it is anything different is disingenuous. In the words of Republican Senator Ben Sasse - "This is rotten to the core."

 

[Redbar]

The pardons happening now are categorically different than what we've seen from past presidents (with the notable exception of Marc Rich). The Blackwater situation isn't "muddy"... just look at the comments from the FBI investigators on the case and the fact that they were serving life sentences for murdering women and children. Nor are the pardons of corrupt Republican Congressmen. Trump promises to drain the swamp... then pardons swamp creatures because they said nice things about him or were "loyal" while committing their crimes.

We are witnessing unprecedented abuse of the pardon process and pretending it is anything different is disingenuous. In the words of Republican Senator Ben Sasse - "This is rotten to the core."

Why should this issue be any different? They’ve come this far don’t stop now.

 

[NDRock]

We've haven't gotten ourselves into another war in the last 4 years. We've killed a couple terrorists, and that's about it. We've also stopped subsidizing unneedy "friends" who have been unwilling to help themselves.

As far as the media, I could care less. I care about the actual policy and end result. The media running cover for a president, which they obviously do, is harmful from either side. It does however have a sizeable slant, and that's not factoring in big tech also putting their gigantic thumb on the scale.

In short, security wise, unless you're listening to career liars like Brennan, Clapper, and the other guys with Military Ind Complex, who will milk MSM guest appearance payments, and retire to be arms makers or the lobby, I don't see any true security threats created or ignored by Trump. Unless you're still stuck thinking a bankrupt and failing Russia is a bigger concern than China... The MSM goes out of their way not to report on China, and other countries, in lieu of Russia, Russia, Russia. It's pretty hilarious.

You do seem to harp on it a lot for someone that doesn’t care. Guess we all have our pet peeves/obsessions.

 

[Irish#1]

The pardons happening now are categorically different than what we've seen from past presidents (with the notable exception of Marc Rich). The Blackwater situation isn't "muddy"... just look at the comments from the FBI investigators on the case and the fact that they were serving life sentences for murdering women and children. Nor are the pardons of corrupt Republican Congressmen. Trump promises to drain the swamp... then pardons swamp creatures because they said nice things about him or were "loyal" while committing their crimes.

We are witnessing unprecedented abuse of the pardon process and pretending it is anything different is disingenuous. In the words of Republican Senator Ben Sasse - "This is rotten to the core."

I'm not sure any were more evil than the others, but IMO no president should be giving out pardons. The justice system spoke and the imprisoned got their verdicts. If there was a true miscarriage of justice, why does every president wait until he's about to leave office to grant pardons? The answer is pretty obvious.

 

[Irish#1]

Not sure how true this is, but the wife commented that since the election most every time she has seen a pic or clip with Trump and the first lady together, the first lady has had a smile on her face where as prior she didn't smile a lot. She's probably glad to get out of DC and who could blame her?

 

[arahop]

Who is more dangerous

A) The ego maniac narcissist lying idiot that 90% of the media attacks, and only 5% take serious.

B) the ego maniac narcissist lying idiot that is "presidential" and coats his lies in sugar, 90% of the media fawns over, and 50% take serious.

A.
His cult doesn't believe in Science
Or simple addition.

Most Magas think General Lee is an American Hero

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Trump Presidency

A.
His cult doesn't believe in Science
Or simple addition.

Most Magas think General Lee is an American Hero

Some of the loudest BELIEVE IN SCIENCE people I come across on a daily basis truly believe there are more than two genders. Its strange.

Some of the simple addition people believe 2+2=5. What a time to be alive.


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[NorthDakota]

A.
His cult doesn't believe in Science
Or simple addition.

Most Magas think General Lee is an American Hero

This post has two distinctly disconnected points. I'm not sure what "science" or "simple addition" have to do with Robert E. Lee, but let's discuss the latter a bit.

Not sure if I'd call him a hero. I certainly admire the man. Effective leader, ride or die mentality with his home, after being defeated I'm pretty sure he led a respectable life.

Claus Von Stauffenberg literally had blockbuster movie made about him a decade ago, and despite being a devout Catholic, he was also a Nazi, not merely a Kraut serving his country like millions of his lesser known or completely unknown countrymen.

Erwin Rommel is among the most respected and admired generals in WW2. Karl Donitz, also a highly respected German military leader. Both of them had views that could be described as fascist..

George Washington's birthday is a fucking Federal holiday. Dude owned slaves. Dude died owning over 100 human beings. His face is on your money. His face is on the side of a mountain. He has a phallic monument in DC, which btw, the nation's CAPITAL is named after the dude.

The weird hatred many have for Robert E. Lee is idiotic because the standard they hold him (and other Confederate figures) to is inconsistent with the standards they apply to themselves and others.

I'm guessing if you sat down 99.9% of people who look at Lee as a hero, or whatever term you want to use there, their reasoning would be some general statement about standing up against the government or defending his home, or something along those lines.

One or my great great uncles is a war hero from WW2. I only met him once before he died. I'm going to assume he had some views or opinions that are distasteful, am I allowed to admire his service?

TL;dR ---> your post made zero sense but you needed to get dunked on anyway. Admiring an American general has literally zero to do with science or addition. But since Robert E. Lee was a West Point graduate who cut his teeth as an engineer, I suspect he was probably more gifted when it comes to science and math than you anyway lol

 

[johnnycando]

Some of the loudest BELIEVE IN SCIENCE people I come across on a daily basis truly believe there are more than two genders. Its strange.

Some of the simple addition people believe 2+2=5. What a time to be alive.


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That’s because, they “feel” like it isn’t physical. It’s more spiritual. And a choice.

I call that demonic personally.

 

[arahop]

This post has two distinctly disconnected points. I'm not sure what "science" or "simple addition" have to do with Robert E. Lee, but let's discuss the latter a bit.

Not sure if I'd call him a hero. I certainly admire the man. Effective leader, ride or die mentality with his home, after being defeated I'm pretty sure he led a respectable life.

Claus Von Stauffenberg literally had blockbuster movie made about him a decade ago, and despite being a devout Catholic, he was also a Nazi, not merely a Kraut serving his country like millions of his lesser known or completely unknown countrymen.

Erwin Rommel is among the most respected and admired generals in WW2. Karl Donitz, also a highly respected German military leader. Both of them had views that could be described as fascist..

George Washington's birthday is a fucking Federal holiday. Dude owned slaves. Dude died owning over 100 human beings. His face is on your money. His face is on the side of a mountain. He has a phallic monument in DC, which btw, the nation's CAPITAL is named after the dude.

The weird hatred many have for Robert E. Lee is idiotic because the standard they hold him (and other Confederate figures) to is inconsistent with the standards they apply to themselves and others.

I'm guessing if you sat down 99.9% of people who look at Lee as a hero, or whatever term you want to use there, their reasoning would be some general statement about standing up against the government or defending his home, or something along those lines.

One or my great great uncles is a war hero from WW2. I only met him once before he died. I'm going to assume he had some views or opinions that are distasteful, am I allowed to admire his service?

TL;dR ---> your post made zero sense but you needed to get dunked on anyway. Admiring an American general has literally zero to do with science or addition. But since Robert E. Lee was a West Point graduate who cut his teeth as an engineer, I suspect he was probably more gifted when it comes to science and math than you anyway lol

Doesn't surprise me that you hold him in such high regard.
How many pictures do you have in front of his statue?
Thanks for your high school paper on General Lee.
You have family ties to the Confederacy!??
Your history of posts make a lot of sense now!

What do you have on your other heros Trump and Adolf?

 

[arahop]

Now back to trump

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/03/trump-georgia-election-454122

 

[phork]

Now back to trump

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/03/trump-georgia-election-454122

Thankfully almost over.

 

[NorthDakota]

Doesn't surprise me that you hold him in such high regard.
How many pictures do you have in front of his statue?
Thanks for your high school paper on General Lee.
You have family ties to the Confederacy!??
Your history of posts make a lot of sense now!

What do you have on your other heros Trump and Adolf?

Anyone who appreciates a competent military leader holds Lee in high regard. Dude is a legend in military history.

I dont think I got any significant ties to the Confederacy...my tribe didn't come over til later. If I do have any ties to the Confederacy, wouldn't bother me one bit. I assume my tribe was probably surfs or something similar prior to getting on a boat. You go back far enough, maybe they had underlings...I dont know and really couldn't be bothered by it.

Its been an absolute blast to watch you go from "I've always been Republican but can't stomach Trump" to "anyone remotely controversial in any manner whatsoever is awful and anyone who admires them is a Neanderthal."

Imagine being that weak that you let a President shatter your psyche that bad lol. You are a broken man. Your family deserves better. Oh well.

 

[BilboBaggins]

Erwin Rommel is among the most respected and admired generals in WW2. Karl Donitz, also a highly respected German military leader. Both of them had views that could be described as fascist..

A LOT of the "clean Wehrmacht" myths are little more than surviving Germans conveniently finding a suitable home for their BS within Cold War propaganda. The Allies needed Germany to bounce back quickly and it was convenient for Allied PR to build up German generals as super human figures because the Allies won. Not a whole lot different than hoping the team you beat in September finishes 11-1...it just makes you look all that better. Plus the former Nazis were now our friends and it was reallllly the Communists and Socialists who are the baddies!!

Also not a whole lot different than when the earliest Christians needed to convert Romans and couldn't pin the Roman Empire with killing Jesus, so they conveniently ignore hoe Pontius Pilate was a brutal governor who showed up to Jerusalem annually on the Passover (read: Jewish 4th of July) and cruxified anyone who didn't bend to Rome's authority....and conveniently put in the Bible that Pilate washed his hands and it was really the Jews who killed Jesus lol History is fun like that I guess...

Anyway Rommel is an enormous POS whose own vanity and self-interests made him worship Hitler's charisma/persona. Given that Hitler is himself among the biggest pieces of shit in human history, Rommel deserves no mercy. I mean people don't even really get just how bad Hitler was. Forget the Jews for a moment, Hitler and the Nazis wanted to kill every man, woman and child in ALL OF EASTERN EUROPE. They hadn't even really got started. The Final Solution was a last ditch effort to exterminate the Jews while they could--but they were going to exterminate everyone from the Black Sea to Leningrad. And they wrote it down in their fucking book and Nazis were somewhat aware....

In short, fuck Rommel and all of the Nazi leadership.

George Washington's birthday is a fucking Federal holiday. Dude owned slaves. Dude died owning over 100 human beings. His face is on your money. His face is on the side of a mountain. He has a phallic monument in DC, which btw, the nation's CAPITAL is named after the dude.

George Washington owned slaves that he could not legally free, big big difference. Washington was not a fan of slavery and thought it was expensive and inefficient. It's the big reason he never had liquidity to live as the rich guy that he was on paper.

His wife owned a minority share of her slaves since they were of her family's estate. His slaves had intermarried with hers. He didn't see freeing them while their spouses were still enslaved as a viable solution. So he spent more time in his will than any other topic discussing their future, instructing how the slaves were to be emancipated when Martha died, how they were to be funded and taught how to read, write, and learn a trade, etc.

Martha didn't share those views and the slaves she did own outright she gave to her grandson.

If you're going to pin a founding father with slavery, use Jefferson. Much easier target.