Trump Presidency

[TorontoGold]

Puleeeze...........CNN is every bit as bad as Fox and pulls the same stunts when reporting. Just on the other side of the fence.

I agree with you on the reporting stuff like with the Hunter Biden tax stuff for example.

But my ire is for the opinion orientated people - Tucker is stumping for Kyle Rittenhouse and Cuomo for his clown Brother.

 

[Bluto]

That's the point I'm trying to make. Carlson, Hannity, etc. are literally entertainers and do not care about facts. Or ethics. Or integrity. It's a grift for TV ratings. But basically every single person who is a "media personality" is a grifter these days, it's not something unique to Fox News primetime personalities. And it's why I never watch a minute of cable "news" from any side.

One of the guys from Big and Rich is a Fox News correspondent. So there’s that. Lol.

Oh damn, he just sang a song dissing Chuck Schumer as a part of his “commentary”. Haha

Anyhow, pathetic seeing the AG from Texas, who is being investigated by the FBI file a ridiculous lawsuit to overturn the election results. Seems like a blatant attempt to catch the POTUS’s attention for a potential pardon.

 

[Irish#1]

I agree with you on the reporting stuff like with the Hunter Biden tax stuff for example.

But my ire is for the opinion orientated people - Tucker is stumping for Kyle Rittenhouse and Cuomo for his clown Brother.

That's why I take anything I read on their sights with a grain of salt.

 

[TorontoGold]

That's why I take anything I read on their sights with a grain of salt.

Fair enough. Guessing I can't mark you down for D Lemon shirt?!?! lol

 

[NorthDakota]

When they say people like Don Lemon (lmao) are just as bad as Tucker/Hannity it allows them to justify it based on a false equivalency.

The most telling thing about the great "CNN is just as bad as Fox!!!" was Trump got COVID. Literally every time after coming back from a commercial break they would have to do the "And we all hope he gets better and our prayers are with him". Remember when HRC was sick? Fox jumped at that and did not care about her health. So the false equivalency thing between the two is a joke.

I guarantee any sort of illness that Biden will get youll see some sort of "We told you he was a sick old man, how selfish!!!" "Why isn't he resigning!?!?!".

Tldr: Fox's Tucker/Hannity/Pirro crackpots have pushed people into ridiculous positions and towards more deranged new sites. CNN at its worst riles up middle aged people to get a little SJW. These orgs are not equal lmao

I dont think there is a substantive difference between Fox and CNN or MSNBC or whichever place people want to go.

I think the biggest differences is Fox is bigger than the others and Fox is an ideological outlier relative to the others.

People can maybe try to distinguish them in other ways, but I'm pretty sure it will boil down to that. Rachel Maddow spent years peddling Russian conspiracies, Don Lemon calls for court packing, then you get Joy Reid. The only difference between any of them and Tucker or Hannity is their share of the market is smaller and it really can't get much bigger because the liberal news market is full of competition.

On the topic of deranged sites, lol those people....woof. I imagine my Facebook, IG, snapchat leans about 70/30 GOP. A few of them on both sides of the aisle share goofy nonsense that makes you shake your head.

The thing thats silly though is Billy Bob sharing a Breitbart article makes him a propagandist while Cara or Natalie (she/her/hers) sharing the NowThis, Slate, Mother Jones, Vox, HuffPost snapchat or IG stories isn't subjected to the same finger-pointing.

One claims voter fraud and communism while the other says anyone who doesn't think like you is racist and our institutions were created by bigots and are illegitimate.

I have a hard time seeing how one of these is deranged and terrible while the other is routinely dismissed as "progressive" or "woke." As far as I can tell, both are peddling information that is wrong or can't be proven, and either implicitly or explicitly tell you not to associate with people who disagree.

 

[NEIIrish]

I agree with you on the reporting stuff like with the Hunter Biden tax stuff for example.

But my ire is for the opinion orientated people - Tucker is stumping for Kyle Rittenhouse and Cuomo for his clown Brother.

St Kyle “the Kenosha kid” did nothing wrong.

 

[Legacy]

St Kyle “the Kenosha kid” did nothing wrong.

One of his lawyers sounds like a Michael Avenatti type.

Kyle Rittenhouse lawyer steps away from criminal case, hours after prosecutors allege fundraising effort ‘provides ample opportunity for self-dealing and fraud’
(Chicago Trib)

Excerpts:

In a motion filed Thursday morning, Kenosha County Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger cited public records and news reports as he alleged that Pierce has “significant personal financial difficulties” and argued that he should not be allowed to represent Rittenhouse because “money that should be held in trust for the defendant may instead be used to repay attorney Pierce’s numerous creditors.”

According to the motion, Pierce filed court records last year that indicated he had no income, monthly expenses of $49,581 and owed about $1.2 million for various debts. He also was sued in July over allegations he breached a rental agreement on a $1.3 million home in Ventura County, California, according to the motion.

The prosecution noted Pierce’s calls for donations to the fund and argued that the fundraising could run afoul of Wisconsin’s code of conduct for attorneys.

“This creates a potential conflict of interest for attorney Pierce,” the motion states. “Given his own substantial personal debts, his involvement with an unregulated and opaque ‘slush fund’ provides ample opportunity for self-dealing and fraud. The more that the Foundation raises in donations, the more he may personally benefit. Money that should be held in trust for the defendant may instead be used to repay attorney Pierce’s numerous creditors.”

The #FightBack foundation is led by another lawyer connected to Rittenhouse’s defense team, L. Lin Wood of Georgia. He tweeted last week that the foundation “successfully raised $2M cash bail for Kyle Rittenhouse & funded over $300K for his attorney’s fees & expenses. The foundation used approx. $400K of its general funds for Kyle.” Wood went on to tweet that those who wanted to make future donations should contact Pierce, as Wood’s foundation was focusing on other matters.

As they sought to raise Rittenhouse’s bail money, Pierce and Wood appealed to the political right, where Rittenhouse is popular. The lawyers used their Twitter accounts to ask for funds while also championing other causes supported by some on the right, including the push to overturn President Donald Trump’s election loss through baseless claims of widespread voter fraud.

He's being sued by individuals who allege they gave money for his bail which had been syphoned off for legal fees and, as head of Rittenhouse's civil defense is suing anyone he can. One lady gave them $800,00 intended for his bail.

 

[dublinirish]

One of his lawyers sounds like a Michael Avenatti type.

Kyle Rittenhouse lawyer steps away from criminal case, hours after prosecutors allege fundraising effort ‘provides ample opportunity for self-dealing and fraud’
(Chicago Trib)

Excerpts:





He's being sued by individuals who allege they gave money for his bail which had been syphoned off for legal fees and, as head of Rittenhouse's civil defense is suing anyone he can. One lady gave them $800,00 intended for his bail.

 

[IrishinSyria]

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.uscfc.41916/gov.uscourts.uscfc.41916.8.0.pdf

Lolololol

 

[Rogue219]

Can we get Trump's lawyers to try and get Clark Lea to stay at ND?

 

[Irish#1]

Trump must be really pissed about losing. We have a major data breach and he's gone silent.

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As <a href="https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@kaitlancollins</a> points out, the President did not attend the event where his own <a href="https://twitter.com/VP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VP</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Surgeon_General</a> got vaccinated. During it, he was tweeting about the "Russia Hoax"</p>— Alli Hedges Maser (@AllisonLHedges) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllisonLHedges/status/1339928266866606080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Bluto]

Can we get Trump's lawyers to try and get Clark Lea to stay at ND?

You could probably rally a bunch of right wing militia nut jobs....”stop the steal!”.

 

[Legacy]

Trump wrote on Twitter 12/18/20.

"The Cyber Hack is far greater in the Fake News Media than in actuality. I have been fully briefed and everything is well under control. Russia, Russia, Russia is the priority chant when anything happens because Lamestream is, for mostly financial reasons, petrified of... discussing the possibility that it may be China (it may!)."

On November 11, 2017, after speaking with Putin at the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation summit, Trump told reporters that

“[Putin] said he didn’t meddle … Every time he sees me he says, ‘I didn’t do that,’ and I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it. I think he is very insulted by it, which is not a good thing for our country.”

The next day Trump said:

“As to whether I believe it or not, I’m with our agencies, especially as currently constituted with their leadership.”

On July 9, 2017, Trump indicated that he believed Putin at his word when the Russian President claimed his country did not interfere in America’s election; he tweeted,

“I strongly pressed President Putin twice about Russian meddling in our election. He vehemently denied it."

On September 26, 2016, during the first presidential debate, Trump questioned the intelligence community’s finding that Russia was behind the DNC hack, saying,

“I don’t think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC. [Clinton’s] saying Russia, Russia, Russia, but I don’t—maybe it was. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, ok?”

 

[Irish#1]

You're going to find out that this had its origins back when Obama was in office.


Surprised you didn't post about Trump wanting to declare Martial Law so he can overturn the election!

 

[dublinirish]

Surprised you didn't post about Trump wanting to declare Marshall Law so he can overturn the election!

 

[Legacy]

Surprised you didn't post about Trump wanting to declare Marshall Law so he can overturn the election!

He did? Really? I need to verify that in the non-Fake News, but really doubt our Law-and-Order President would consider such an action. He'd run into resistance anyway from our Defense Dept heads like Esper and our Attorney General, Barr. How would that be constitutional? If necessary, the SecDef can consult with the Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee members.

 

[Irish#1]

He did? Really? I need to verify that in the non-Fake News, but really doubt our Law-and-Order President would consider such an action. He'd run into resistance anyway from our Defense Dept heads like Esper and our Attorney General, Barr. How would that be constitutional? If necessary, the SecDef can consult with the Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee members.

Reported from the bastion of integrity.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/20/media/stelter-trump-martial-law/index.html

 

[Old Man Mike]

Surely there aren't many people anymore who think that there is anything beyond this guy that he won't say. It's his fundamental nature and pervades his entire life. Nothing out of his mouth should ever surprise. Had the media (of all stripes) not seen this as good for business, he'd never have had a usable platform and would have remained a self-consumed ego operating powerfully in the real estate world and a minor actor in the entertainment business. But he is at least as much a creature of a gutless, cash-grabber media (of all stripes) as his own dangerous defective personality.

But is there anything that he would not DO? Say is one thing; do is another. I have no good data for this, but my opinion is that the only thing limiting him from doing anything is his fear of the Law. He fears embarrassment from a huge swell of public opinion that he is a Loser, but he has bastioned himself from seeing that. At this point, if he thinks that he can do something without ending up in court or prison, then I believe he will take a shot at it.

 

[Irish#1]

Surely there aren't many people anymore who think that there is anything beyond this guy that he won't say. It's his fundamental nature and pervades his entire life. Nothing out of his mouth should ever surprise. Had the media (of all stripes) not seen this as good for business, he'd never have had a usable platform and would have remained a self-consumed ego operating powerfully in the real estate world and a minor actor in the entertainment business. But he is at least as much a creature of a gutless, cash-grabber media (of all stripes) as his own dangerous defective personality.

But is there anything that he would not DO? Say is one thing; do is another. I have no good data for this, but my opinion is that the only thing limiting him from doing anything is his fear of the Law. but He fears embarrassment from a huge swell of public opinion that he is a Loser, he has bastioned himself from seeing that. At this point, if he thinks that he can do something without ending up in court or prison, then I believe he will take a shot at it.

He may indeed fear the embarrassment, but I think he sees it. Otherwise, why continue the charade of trying to overturn the election? It's his only hope to say, "See I told you so."

 

[Old Man Mike]

I've said before that I was a consultant for a time to a mini-Trump billionaire Swolen-EGO. It was the characteristic behavior of this guy to fire people who weren't YES-men, to buy his way out of problems, then to re-write history (rather rapidly) to paint himself either as The Hero of the tale, or the innocently aggrieved party who was right about everything all along.

He was not quite all the way to sociopath status, as, unlike Trump, it was not his practice to seek revenge and damage on other people. That is textbook sociopathy, of course, but "my" guy didn't think that wasting his time on who he would call ungrateful idiots was worth doing. Trump is more deranged than "my" guy (I too was fired after a year and a half, by the way --- didn't see the UFO research field exactly like he wanted. But in my case I got gold bordered Christmas Cards for years :=}})

Because of my experience with mini-Trump, I see his playing out every last line of insanity as "normal" for him. He REALLY needs that I AM THE CHOSEN ONE; I AM THE HERO belief in himself glorified somehow.

 

[NDRock]

Heck, even Pat Robertson called out Trump as a liar. Though he did seem to indicate they’re not really lies since Trump believes them to be true. Somewhere George Costanza is smiling.

 

[Legacy]

Tracking the Trump Administration’s “Midnight Regulations”
The administration is rushing to implement dozens of policy changes in its final days. We’re following some of the most consequential and controversial. (ProPublica)

Even as President Donald Trump refuses to concede defeat, his White House and executive agencies are racing to finalize his policy priorities before President-elect Joe Biden takes office on Jan. 20. It’s common for outgoing administrations to rush through last-minute rules, but these “midnight regulations” can sometimes shortchange public input or thorough analysis, and they may tie the hands of the incoming president. ProPublica is tracking the most controversial and consequential regulations that are advancing through federal agencies and the White House in the Trump administration’s final days, which include rules proposed or moved along on or after the election or rules our reporting tells us are highly likely to be finalized soon. (cont)

This listing can be searched by category. For instance, Environment includes:
Finalized:
- Excluding Secondary Environmental and Health Benefits From Evaluating Regulations on Air Pollution
- Stripping Down Environmental Reviews for LNG Exports
- Reverses Obama-era Decision to Require Polluters to Ensure Cleanup Funds
- Allowing the Forest Service to Bypass Some Environmental Reviews
- Excluding Scientific Studies From Environmental Policy-making (WH reviewing Final Rule

Proposed:
- Clearing States to Weaken Water Protections
- Easing Environmental and Safety Requirements for Oil Exploration in the Arctic
- Loosening Permits to Develop Near Waterways and Wetlands

For some of the Proposed rules, required public comment has been decreased from 60 days to 30 days to enact these prior to the next Admin taking over. Some rules would also be effective for the next five years.

Feel free to browse other categories like finance, healthcare, housing, immigration, labor, etc.

 

[IrishLax]

Anyone got thoughts on the Trump pardons? Child killers serving life in prison, corrupt Republicans that said nice things about him, etc.

Does anyone think he will try to preemptively pardon himself, his staff, and his children?

 

[Old Man Mike]

HE WILL TRY ANYTHING
... it's what sociopaths do.

 

[dublinirish]

Anyone got thoughts on the Trump pardons? Child killers serving life in prison, corrupt Republicans that said nice things about him, etc.

Does anyone think he will try to preemptively pardon himself, his staff, and his children?

The Blackwater mercenaries pardons are abhorrent

 

[NDRock]

HE WILL TRY ANYTHING
... it's what sociopaths do.

And his flag waiving army will blame the media.

 

[TorontoGold]

And his flag waiving army will blame the media.

....what if.....he's been really bad.....and that's why his coverage is so bad? Nah nah that's too radical of an idea.

 

[Legacy]

Anyone got thoughts on the Trump pardons? Child killers serving life in prison, corrupt Republicans that said nice things about him, etc.

Does anyone think he will try to preemptively pardon himself, his staff, and his children?

In contrast to speeding up federal executions after a 17 year moratorium? I assume they were not Trump supporters, had enough money to get pardons, or generated his sympathy like the Blackwater employees who shot to death 17 Iraqi civilians and the Border Patrol agents who killed a an unarmed undocumented immigrant in 2006 and covered it up.

One of his Midnight regulation changes is that alternative methods of execution like firing squads or electrocution instead of lethal injections can be used. He hasn't changed since he wanted the minors of the Central Park five, who were later found innocent, executed.

Trump can give a federal pardon to his family and friends but he and they don't escape state crimes. Also, I would expect he pardons Texas Attorney General, Ken Paxton, of his felony securities fraud, bribery and abuse of office preemptively, if he can do that. Paxton wat the co-chair of his re-election committee. He was probably pissed that he could not suppress the FBI's investigation.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Gentlemen, if there is any light in this at all, I believe that the upper levels of the intelligence community (the pros, not any appointees) will not have gone along with any of the almost-at-random tweet types of national-security-affecting nonsense that has been spewed. I have been (just slightly) privileged to hear a pro or two speak to this sort of intel community challenge that ego-or-partisan focused politicos in high office present. These guys have said that they would ignore if possible, or manipulate upward intel if necessary, to zero out crazy ideas. The deeps of the Pentagon, CIA, NSA are very deep indeed.

When one adds to that, that there have been more than a couple of top Pentagon Generals or Admirals who have said that they would "retire" while making a great public stink if ordered to do something completely nuts, I have some faith that the current Exec-tweeter hasn't gotten our international security analyses nor planning nor covert actions nor intel gathering on terrorists screwed up. Public shouting matches with people like Putin are shadow shows projected for the respected governments' peasantries (us) and not where the serious games are played. It is my opinion, that people like the CIA would view Trump as such a careless loose cannon, that LOTS of intel would never be given him.