Trump Presidency

[NorthDakota]

Of course there's an investigation...

Nobody cared though when the Clintons went full slime with pardons.

If I was an executive I would definitely toss pardons around for cash and end up in Leavenworth

 

[Irish YJ]

Yeah, they did -- https://www.npr.org/2016/11/01/5002...es-files-on-bill-clintons-pardon-of-marc-rich -- there was a federal investigation.

Yes, and kept it quiet for 16 years...

There were a ton of pretty blatant pardons that never got investigated. Rich was one of many. Take a look at the link below at all the ties. There's a better article somewhere that I'll try to find tomorrow. Trump hasn't even really dropped his pardons yet, and he's already getting investigated. It's pretty funny stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy

 

[johnnycando]

https://youtu.be/OJCjQ3loO34

 

[RDU Irish]

https://youtu.be/OJCjQ3loO34

Same lady on video recorded swapping a USB drive with another person in the most super covert 2nd grade level handoff ever.

https://twitter.com/PatrickTRooney/status/1334874714427301889

And the magical after midnight 24k vote drop 100% for Biden kind of lines up with the timeline of them finishing up SuitcaseGate

Suitcase video was secured from State Farm Arena - not under purview of election "officials".

Sorry if that doesn't jive with everyone's worldview and feelings.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Same lady on video recorded swapping a USB drive with another person in the most super covert 2nd grade level handoff ever.

https://twitter.com/PatrickTRooney/status/1334874714427301889

And the magical after midnight 24k vote drop 100% for Biden kind of lines up with the timeline of them finishing up SuitcaseGate

Suitcase video was secured from State Farm Arena - not under purview of election "officials".

Sorry if that doesn't jive with everyone's worldview and feelings.

I'm not totally sure the timelines with the 24k vote drop and the suitcases line up. Looks like they pulled the suitcases shortly after 11:00. The vote dump was at 12:18 am. Doesn't seem like enough time for 4 processors to churn that kind of volume. It's my understanding that each scanner can do like 3,000 an hour.

Not saying that the counting with the suitcases was legitimate, it just may not match up with that dump.

 

[TorontoGold]

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/...der-a-table-after-poll-workers-dismissed.html

 

[RDU Irish]

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/...der-a-table-after-poll-workers-dismissed.html

That's cute. We pretend the "water main" evac never happened now? They cleared the room of non-friendlies and went straight to the fun stuff under the table. I would bet large sums of money if the ballots processed from 11pm to 1am were forensically evaluated they would be bogus.

Now do the USB handoff.

 

[Rocket89]

That's cute. We pretend the "water main" evac never happened now? They cleared the room of non-friendlies and went straight to the fun stuff under the table. I would bet large sums of money if the ballots processed from 11pm to 1am were forensically evaluated they would be bogus.

Now do the USB handoff.

My goodness, how far down the Q'Anon rabbit hole are you??

 

[Rocket89]

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/...der-a-table-after-poll-workers-dismissed.html

Clearly, truth and facts won't stop a good conspiracy theory.

 

[RDU Irish]

Clearly, truth and facts won't stop a good conspiracy theory.

Again, so cute. Saying it doesn't make it true, just like mainstream media not covering doesn't mean nothing is happening.

From the weak ass link "There wasn't a bin that had ballots in it under that table. It was an empty bin and the ballots from it were actually out on the table when the media were still there, and then it was placed back into the box when the media were still there and placed next to the table."

You can clearly see in the video they open the suitcases and they are full of ballots that are taken out. Full video is for the entire day - first time these appear are after majority of people are shuffled out.

Same lady with the shady USB handoff. More than enough evidence for the GA legislature to decertify this appoint EVs.

 

[Armyirish47]

Clearly, truth and facts won't stop a good conspiracy theory.

It doesn't appear that this generation of conspiracy theorists just dabble, be a true believer or find a new hobby!

 

[Rocket89]

Again, so cute. Saying it doesn't make it true, just like mainstream media not covering doesn't mean nothing is happening.

From the weak ass link "There wasn't a bin that had ballots in it under that table. It was an empty bin and the ballots from it were actually out on the table when the media were still there, and then it was placed back into the box when the media were still there and placed next to the table."

You can clearly see in the video they open the suitcases and they are full of ballots that are taken out. Full video is for the entire day - first time these appear are after majority of people are shuffled out.

Same lady with the shady USB handoff. More than enough evidence for the GA legislature to decertify this appoint EVs.

Cool, take it to court and keep donating to Trump's defense if you're so certain. Sounds like you have a winning formula.

 

[RDU Irish]

Cool, take it to court and keep donating to Trump's defense if you're so certain. Sounds like you have a winning formula.

Court is not needed - state legislature can take it from here. Just, LOL, though. There is no amount of evidence that will change your mind. Tons of evidence all over the place! Doesn't mean he wins, just amazing how your crowd cannot concede a single point anywhere. Just because Georgia flips doesn't mean PA or MI or AZ, or NV or WI do too. We are seeing that only video evidence even has a chance at uncovering fraud to the point limp dick legislators do something.

No I don't think it will be enough but flipping Georgia is working its way to a probability instead of a remote possibility. Maybe if you scream "NO" loud enough and kick your feet it will make a difference?

 

[RDU Irish]

It doesn't appear that this generation of conspiracy theorists just dabble, be a true believer or find a new hobby!

Sorry if those videos and mounting evidence make you upset. Just hug your knees and rock back and forth saying "fraud isn't real, fraud isn't real" and it will all be OK. If you are wrong you can go burn down a few evil businesses and get some free stuff looting.

Seriously - It won't be enough for BAD Orange Man to win, too little too late. You would think exposing fraud and protecting the integrity of our elections would be a more unifying position. All I see are people afraid to look at the process too close like its some solar eclipse or welding arc. You think miss blonde braids is on the up, and up - maybe you were on OJ's jury too.

 

[Armyirish47]

Sorry if those videos and mounting evidence make you upset. Just hug your knees and rock back and forth saying "fraud isn't real, fraud isn't real" and it will all be OK. If you are wrong you can go burn down a few evil businesses and get some free stuff looting.

Seriously - It won't be enough for BAD Orange Man to win, too little too late. You would think exposing fraud and protecting the integrity of our elections would be a more unifying position. All I see are people afraid to look at the process too close like its some solar eclipse or welding arc. You think miss blonde braids is on the up, and up - maybe you were on OJ's jury too.

This is a totally rational take on a conspiracy theorist's vigor post. Lulz.

 

[TorontoGold]

That's cute. We pretend the "water main" evac never happened now? They cleared the room of non-friendlies and went straight to the fun stuff under the table. I would bet large sums of money if the ballots processed from 11pm to 1am were forensically evaluated they would be bogus.

Now do the USB handoff.

From the article

The officials said the ballots seen in the video were in regular ballot containers -- not suitcases -- and they had been removed from their envelopes and processed while news media and election observers for the Republican Party and Trump campaign were present. The media and party observers were never told to leave because counting was over for the night, but they apparently followed workers who left once their job of opening envelopes was completed, the chief investigator for the secretary of state told Lead Stories. The observers were free to return at anytime, she said. Georgia law allows observers, but does not require them to be there for ballots to be counted, she said.

If it's overwhelming evidence, why hasn't a Trump friendly governor like Brian Kemp done anything about it?

 

[Rocket89]

Court is not needed - state legislature can take it from here. Just, LOL, though. There is no amount of evidence that will change your mind. Tons of evidence all over the place! Doesn't mean he wins, just amazing how your crowd cannot concede a single point anywhere. Just because Georgia flips doesn't mean PA or MI or AZ, or NV or WI do too. We are seeing that only video evidence even has a chance at uncovering fraud to the point limp dick legislators do something.

No I don't think it will be enough but flipping Georgia is working its way to a probability instead of a remote possibility. Maybe if you scream "NO" loud enough and kick your feet it will make a difference?

Just completely sane, rational, and normal thoughts here. It’s everyone else laughing at you who are shaking mad, upset, and not able to accept the evidence in front of them...not you though!

 

[NorthDakota]

I havent followed the conspiracy stuff particularly closely, I will say two things on the topic though.

1.) Messengers - Look at these clowns that are being put forward to make these claims. I have yet to see one person that I go "This person seems legit."

2.) They have made so many strange claims. One of them claimed that they would prove Donald Trump won like 45 states, including California. I'm sorry but its not 1988 anymore, no Presidential candidate is ever going to pull that off again.

Donald Trump once said regarding illegal immigration "They're not sending us their best!" Well it also appears that the MAGA community has not sent their best either either as witnesses or attorneys.

You are telling me that with all the normalish people in the country, including millions of republican or independent Americans in Swing States and the thousands of Republican lawyers in the country...these are the people we have? My goodness. That alone tells me that even if there was a bunch of fraud (i have no idea if there was), these are NOT the people you want to be running the show lol

 

[phork]

Court is not needed - state legislature can take it from here. Just, LOL, though. There is no amount of evidence that will change your mind. Tons of evidence all over the place! Doesn't mean he wins, just amazing how your crowd cannot concede a single point anywhere. Just because Georgia flips doesn't mean PA or MI or AZ, or NV or WI do too. We are seeing that only video evidence even has a chance at uncovering fraud to the point limp dick legislators do something.

No I don't think it will be enough but flipping Georgia is working its way to a probability instead of a remote possibility. Maybe if you scream "NO" loud enough and kick your feet it will make a difference?

Its the end of the road compadre. Build a bridge and get over it. There is no evidence and apparently, to your point, no amount of lack of evidence will change your mind.

 

[dublinirish]

SNL are gonna go to town on this gal

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dominion contractor Melissa Carone believes Nick Ikonornakis was “in on” the “cheating” and he told her to ignore an irregularity she saw. <a href="https://t.co/4cBJ83dMPv">pic.twitter.com/4cBJ83dMPv</a></p>— NTD News (@news_ntd) <a href="https://twitter.com/news_ntd/status/1334517941925244929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[johnnycando]

SNL are gonna go to town on this gal

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dominion contractor Melissa Carone believes Nick Ikonornakis was “in on” the “cheating” and he told her to ignore an irregularity she saw. <a href="https://t.co/4cBJ83dMPv">pic.twitter.com/4cBJ83dMPv</a></p>— NTD News (@news_ntd) <a href="https://twitter.com/news_ntd/status/1334517941925244929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I’d love to see your dental work.

A Welshman from Dublin.

 

[RDU Irish]

Its the end of the road compadre. Build a bridge and get over it. There is no evidence and apparently, to your point, no amount of lack of evidence will change your mind.

Hundreds of affidavits is not evidence, gotcha. These videos are debunked before even being reviewed. You can say it is not significant enough or you don't believe it but it is a bit disingenuous to call it nothing.

Fact - 100 ballots in Arizona taken to sample for fraud. One was switched from Trump to Biden and another was a Trump vote that was not entered - a net 3% discrepancy. Again, not enough or isolated incident or honest mistake or whatever but not, as you say, nuttin.

I guess all those dead people, out of staters, people voting in multiple states, multiple submissions, etc are all fake news too. Raffles for votes, fake? Or just labeled "nothing"?

Would love to see the debunk of the USB hand-off. Or will it be rationalizing what they were doing without any demand for those two to defend/explain their actions? God forbid NBC/ABC/CBS/CNN/MSNBC tracked those people down and stuck a microphone in their face. Anyone else who tries to do so is discounted, "nothing", b/c they are not "real" news organizations. No prosecution means they did "nothing". I see nothing, I hear nothing, I say nothing. Unless some thug gets beat up by police - then I'm going to burn it all down - no hypocrisy in your standards for "evidence" at all.

 

[TorontoGold]

Hundreds of affidavits is not evidence, gotcha. These videos are debunked before even being reviewed. You can say it is not significant enough or you don't believe it but it is a bit disingenuous to call it nothing.

Fact - 100 ballots in Arizona taken to sample for fraud. One was switched from Trump to Biden and another was a Trump vote that was not entered - a net 3% discrepancy. Again, not enough or isolated incident or honest mistake or whatever but not, as you say, nuttin.

I guess all those dead people, out of staters, people voting in multiple states, multiple submissions, etc are all fake news too. Raffles for votes, fake? Or just labeled "nothing"?

Would love to see the debunk of the USB hand-off. Or will it be rationalizing what they were doing without any demand for those two to defend/explain their actions? God forbid NBC/ABC/CBS/CNN/MSNBC tracked those people down and stuck a microphone in their face. Anyone else who tries to do so is discounted, "nothing", b/c they are not "real" news organizations. No prosecution means they did "nothing". I see nothing, I hear nothing, I say nothing. Unless some thug gets beat up by police - then I'm going to burn it all down - no hypocrisy in your standards for "evidence" at all.

It's sad it's gotten to the "Dude, trust me" point of this discussion.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When you think about it like this election was kinda shady bro like <a href="https://t.co/jDyHDWNvHM">pic.twitter.com/jDyHDWNvHM</a></p>— Karan Menon (@TheKaranMenon) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheKaranMenon/status/1328751701667446784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[RDU Irish]

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/02/arizona-ballot-review-found-discarded-trump-votes-republican-party-says/3799242001/

Who is the "dude trust me" in this relationship again Oh Canada, eh? You ate up the Russia hoax like Richard Simmons in an EL Fudge factory. Still haven't admitted it was a fully debunked hoax. But you are coming from the high ground here?

 

[dublinirish]

Hundreds of affidavits is not evidence, gotcha. These videos are debunked before even being reviewed. You can say it is not significant enough or you don't believe it but it is a bit disingenuous to call it nothing.

Fact - 100 ballots in Arizona taken to sample for fraud. One was switched from Trump to Biden and another was a Trump vote that was not entered - a net 3% discrepancy. Again, not enough or isolated incident or honest mistake or whatever but not, as you say, nuttin.

I guess all those dead people, out of staters, people voting in multiple states, multiple submissions, etc are all fake news too. Raffles for votes, fake? Or just labeled "nothing"?

Would love to see the debunk of the USB hand-off. Or will it be rationalizing what they were doing without any demand for those two to defend/explain their actions? God forbid NBC/ABC/CBS/CNN/MSNBC tracked those people down and stuck a microphone in their face. Anyone else who tries to do so is discounted, "nothing", b/c they are not "real" news organizations. No prosecution means they did "nothing". I see nothing, I hear nothing, I say nothing. Unless some thug gets beat up by police - then I'm going to burn it all down - no hypocrisy in your standards for "evidence" at all.

but but her emails!

 

[RDU Irish]

but but her emails!

And Epstein didn't kill himself. Got it. No prosecution equals no crime. Al Capone only evaded taxes, nothing else.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I doubt much comes of any of this, but it is funny to see those who totally bought into the "Russian collusion! Illegitimate! Not my president" thing and clung to it for four years now complain the loudest about Trump followers buying into the stolen election thing.

 

[Irish YJ]

I doubt much comes of any of this, but it is funny to see those who totally bought into the "Russian collusion! Illegitimate! Not my president" thing and clung to it for four years now complain the loudest about Trump followers buying into the stolen election thing.

Yup, some serious blinders. My 2nd favorite hypocrisy however is the constant "right wing extremist" and Proud Boy stuff from some here, while cities are looted and burnt, etc.. The skill that it takes to wear those blinders is simply phenomenal.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/02/arizona-ballot-review-found-discarded-trump-votes-republican-party-says/3799242001/

Who is the "dude trust me" in this relationship again Oh Canada, eh? You ate up the Russia hoax like Richard Simmons in an EL Fudge factory. Still haven't admitted it was a fully debunked hoax. But you are coming from the high ground here?

You. You’re the dude trust me person.

 

[Redbar]

You. You’re the dude trust me person.

No. He’s the dude playing the dude, disguised as another dude.