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Struggling to come up with a charitable reading of what he's trying to say here....

I’m glad you posted here so the cons can interpret this for us. I’d hate to misunderstand him. He also said he isn’t a Christian but I’m sure thats wrong too.
 

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I’m glad you posted here so the cons can interpret this for us. I’d hate to misunderstand him. He also said he isn’t a Christian but I’m sure thats wrong too.
In the video I think he said “I’m a Christian”, which is funny because he definitely sounds like a used car salesman. Hard to discern.
 

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My most generous interpretation of what Trump said would be ..... that Christians that closely align with Turning Point wouldn't even have to vote in the next election because Trump's policies would result in everyone being so happy that the next Republican candidate will easily get elected.

Even if that's what he meant, his wording only reinforces concerns that people have over Trump. I don't believe Trump would be so stupid as to verbalize that he has an evil plan to overthrow the rules and make so that he becomes dictator.

With that said, it was a stupid thing to say regardless.
 

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My most generous interpretation of what Trump said would be ..... that Christians that closely align with Turning Point wouldn't even have to vote in the next election because Trump's policies would result in everyone being so happy that the next Republican candidate will easily get elected.

Even if that's what he meant, his wording only reinforces concerns that people have over Trump. I don't believe Trump would be so stupid as to verbalize that he has an evil plan to overthrow the rules and make so that he becomes dictator.

With that said, it was a stupid thing to say regardless.
He said he would be a day one dictator. Even if it’s only for the first day he could authorize all kinds of things on day one that get executed over time. Plus immunity for him and no way to investigate or hold accountable anyone he tasks with official acts….

What if it isn’t stupidity and just brazen bravado? Because cloaked in immunity for official actions he could actually do it and get away with it and if he is in office and does it what is in place to stop him? Honor based guardrails? He stress tested so many of them already they won’t stop him this time and now with immunity he can blow right through them. I’m not even sure how impeachment can stop a president now based on my reading of the immunity ruling.
 
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He said he would be a day one dictator.

All the pearl clutching over the dictator comment. It was a stupid comment, but the fear mongering is just silly.

“Except for day one,” the GOP front-runner said Tuesday night before a live audience in Davenport, Iowa. “I want to close the border, and I want to drill, drill, drill.”

And in case anyone missed it, he reenacted the exchange.

“We love this guy,” Trump said of Hannity. “He says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said: ‘No, no, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border, and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator.’”
God forbid we get a handle on the border and reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
 

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All the pearl clutching over the dictator comment. It was a stupid comment, but the fear mongering is just silly.


God forbid we get a handle on the border and reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
Trump has proven he doesn’t give a shit about the border. If you believe otherwise you’re a fool.
 

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All the pearl clutching over the dictator comment. It was a stupid comment, but the fear mongering is just silly.


God forbid we get a handle on the border and reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
He said it. He said that and he said the not voting thing. You say it was stupid. I say what if it’s not stupid. What if it’s exactly what he means to say? He said those words. You rationalize it in only the way you can. You still think Jan 6 was a field trip. Owe all saw what he was willing to do up until Jan 6 to stay in office. I have zero reservations he will go even further cloaked in immunity. We will never see eye to eye in that and this. Cloaked in immunity he will do what he wants and he is unworthy of such responsibility.
 

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He said it. He said that and he said the not voting thing. You say it was stupid. I say what if it’s not stupid. What if it’s exactly what he means to say? He said those words. You rationalize it in only the way you can. You still think Jan 6 was a field trip. Owe all saw what he was willing to do up until Jan 6 to stay in office. I have zero reservations he will go even further cloaked in immunity. We will never see eye to eye in that and this. Cloaked in immunity he will do what he wants and he is unworthy of such responsibility.
He was just joking about overturning the election!!
 

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Yup. Fear mongering always begins with "What if."
You still think Jan 6 was a field trip.

You make a good point. When I go on field trips I tend to bring a selfie stick personally. If I ever went crazy and intended to overthrow a government with the most powerful military in the world I'd probably bring a gun or something.

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It was the greatest attack on democracy since the Civil War!
 

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He was just joking about overturning the election!!

This was an honor bound guardrail that Pence adhered to. Trumps next Vp will absolutely ignore this but in reality it’s unlikely to ever get this far if Trump is in office. He can just claim the election was rigged and stay in power like Maduro is doing right now, use his full immunity power to order who ever to do whatever.
 

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Yup. Fear mongering always begins with "What if."


You make a good point. When I go on field trips I tend to bring a selfie stick personally. If I ever went crazy and intended to overthrow a government with the most powerful military in the world I'd probably bring a gun or something.

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It was the greatest attack on democracy since the Civil War!
Always showing them walking after the violence was already done. What a laughable joke you are.
 

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Pro-Palestine vandals assaulted officers and all were released without charges. GFY on the J6 bullshit everyone.
Almost like having the goal of overturning a presidential election and breaking into the nations capitol are also a factor.
 

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Kamala raised money for Minnesota Freedom Fund to bail out violent rioters. You don't really care - you just play sides.
sure I care. I’m not sure what she was doing raising money as you put it. I haven’t heard that but will check into it. Political violence is never justified. Jan 6 was an assault on our democracy. Ignoring all the violence leading up to it only to to claim they were walking around with selfie sticks if disgraceful.
 

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sure I care. I’m not sure what she was doing raising money as you put it. I haven’t heard that but will check into it. Political violence is never justified. Jan 6 was an assault on our democracy. Ignoring all the violence leading up to it only to to claim they were walking around with selfie sticks if disgraceful.

LOLOLOLOLOL! Probably don't know who Willie Brown is either.

"Generic statement about violence never being the answer, blah blah blah..." you don't mean any of it - you are just posing for your team.
 

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Always showing them walking after the violence was already done. What a laughable joke you are.
And, again, we hear liberals clutching pearls all the time about the violence and deaths on Jan 6. It was 2 protestors having heart attacks, an overdose, and Babbitt getting shot. Such violent protestors! Ban all selfie sticks and flag poles! Jokes, for sure.
 

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And, again, we hear liberals clutching pearls all the time about the violence and deaths on Jan 6. It was 2 protestors having heart attacks, an overdose, and Babbitt getting shot. Such violent protestors! Ban all selfie sticks and flag poles! Jokes, for sure.
And again you and I will never see eye to eye on this. I can’t imagine watching the violence and then convincing myself they were there just to walk around. Moving on.
 

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My most generous interpretation of what Trump said would be ..... that Christians that closely align with Turning Point wouldn't even have to vote in the next election because Trump's policies would result in everyone being so happy that the next Republican candidate will easily get elected.

Even if that's what he meant, his wording only reinforces concerns that people have over Trump. I don't believe Trump would be so stupid as to verbalize that he has an evil plan to overthrow the rules and make so that he becomes dictator.

With that said, it was a stupid thing to say regardless.
Weird how he is constantly ‘misunderstood’ and I have to come to IE for an interpretation of what he actually meant. Also, not sure why you don’t think Trump wouldn’t have been stupid enough to verbalize his plans. He’s a babbling moron.
 

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He said it. He said that and he said the not voting thing. You say it was stupid. I say what if it’s not stupid. What if it’s exactly what he means to say? He said those words. You rationalize it in only the way you can. You still think Jan 6 was a field trip. Owe all saw what he was willing to do up until Jan 6 to stay in office. I have zero reservations he will go even further cloaked in immunity. We will never see eye to eye in that and this. Cloaked in immunity he will do what he wants and he is unworthy of such responsibility.
All of this coming from the same person who also swore that Trump said to drink bleach and that the Russian's had video of him getting peed on by 14-year-old Moscow hookers. Your interpretation of what Trump says or intends lacks a certain credibility and element of critical thinking.
 

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Some people keep for getting that we have a constitution and congress. If elected, there's no way in hell Trump is going to claim he's the czar, dictator, final authority or whatever you want to call it and congress will roll over.
Would depend entirely on the makeup of congress at the time.
 

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Some people keep for getting that we have a constitution and congress. If elected, there's no way in hell Trump is going to claim he's the czar, dictator, final authority or whatever you want to call it and congress will roll over.
Nope. Where in the constitution does it grant presidential immunity and how to deal with it based on this SCOTUS ruling? What power does congress have now that virtually all evidence needed to impeach a president cannot be obtained because of immunity? How will Congress force a president to leave office? What happens when a President has loyalists installed in all key positions instead of civil servants and they decide not to enforce any laws or guardrails?

After immunity ruling it’s unclear what impeachment would even be able to do to hold them accountable for official acts. If congress requested info he could withhold it due to immunity. If they wanted him or underlings to testify? Nope. Immunity. Prosecute an impeachment in House? How. Immunity. Literally every act taken by a president can be considered official or presumed official which severely limits any and virtually all evidence and any attempt to hold the President accountable is now covered by immunity.

Now what happens when a president has loyalists commanding the armed forces and says nah man I’m not leaving….. ever. I’m not talking specifically about Trump here but in general any future president including the next Dem one.
 
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LOLOLOLOLOL! Probably don't know who Willie Brown is either.

"Generic statement about violence never being the answer, blah blah blah..." you don't mean any of it - you are just posing for your team.
Sorry to disappoint you but I hadn’t. I’ll do my research.
 
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