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Couple years late buddy.

Can you imagine the following he will have in prison? The man was born to lead 😂.

“They love me in cell block C, they love me, I got my pod 2 ply toilet paper because of my relationship with the Warden… we play spades on his lunch break, they just love me”
 

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Most elections are rigged. JFK had Daley rig it in 1960 - why do we think they have gotten worse at it in the last sixty years?

Trump is going to jail, no doubt in my mind. Anyone who thinks guilt or innocence have anything to do with it is naïve tho.
 

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Most elections are rigged.
Citation needed. Trump has yet to provide one shred of evidence of any rigging. Him and his team have failed what 60 lawsuits now?

Also even if that's true it doesn't just give you a free pass to do a bunch of illegal stuff to try and expose it. If I'm convinced my neighbor is stealing my mail I'm still going to get in trouble for breaking in to try and get my newspaper back.
 
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I watched the whole thing live - they were back in session the same day. Couple hour mob delay. Police were guiding half the tour and opening doors with feds leading the charge. Bedwetting libs pretend it was a real life John Wick movie and unserious people eat it up. Theater production more than anything - the stick in the eye is litigating that BS after the summer of love.
Idiotic take.
 

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I don't know about every election, but I'm not going to believe liberals on the matter either when they're willing to rig their own primary in favor of Hillary.
 

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I don't know about every election, but I'm not going to believe liberals on the matter either when they're willing to rig their own primary in favor of Hillary.
That's not rigging. They played by the rules. Those rules are stupid and anti democratic, but super delegates didn't just appear out of nowhere.
 

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I don't know about every election, but I'm not going to believe liberals on the matter either when they're willing to rig their own primary in favor of Hillary.
"Rig" :rolleyes:.

By any measure, Hillary beat Bernie by larger margins than Trump beat Cruz. Nothing was rigged, Bernie got stomped.

Don't be jealous that the DNC was able to keep a non-party member from the nomination and the RNC wasn't.
 

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It going to be fascinating and I hope it’s on TV. I think to him these were not false statements, I truly believe he believes he still won. I think I read that all these false statement charges they have to prove he actually believed he lost and was willfully lying. That will be hard to prove.
Trump told multiple people that he knew that he had lost.
 

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"Rig" :rolleyes:.

By any measure, Hillary beat Bernie by larger margins than Trump beat Cruz. Nothing was rigged, Bernie got stomped.

Don't be jealous that the DNC was able to keep a non-party member from the nomination and the RNC wasn't.
What would I be jealous of? Trump was the lesser of two evils. I was better off during those 4 years than any under Biden or Obama.
 

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What would I be jealous of? Trump was the lesser of two evils. I was better off during those 4 years than any under Biden or Obama.
Than Obama?? LOL

Obama clowned Trump. Most economic measures have Obama way way ahead of Trump.

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Outside of the economy - what major accomplishments did Trump have that impacted you that can be tied to his policies? Farm aid?

Interest rates were low, inflation was low, he didn't fuck with my health care. I was able to sell my house for twice what I paid for when I bought it in 2010. Expanded child tax credit. I also got a nice, fat bonus at work after his tax cut went through. That's just off the top of my head. Biden and Obama's policies have done more harm to us than help financially.
 

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Interest rates were low, inflation was low, he didn't fuck with my health care. I was able to sell my house for twice what I paid for when I bought it in 2010. Expanded child tax credit. I also got a nice, fat bonus at work after his tax cut went through. That's just off the top of my head. Biden and Obama's policies have done more harm to us than help financially.

The Fed kept interest rates near zero for all of Obama's 8 years and started raising them throughout Trumps term?
How did a president impact you selling your house...? Obviously it would have been higher under Trump because of the time period.
Biden increased the child tax credit? Wouldn't that be a positive for him?

What measures are you basing the Biden/Obama policies harming more than help?
 

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Interest rates were low, inflation was low, he didn't fuck with my health care. I was able to sell my house for twice what I paid for when I bought it in 2010. Expanded child tax credit. I also got a nice, fat bonus at work after his tax cut went through. That's just off the top of my head. Biden and Obama's policies have done more harm to us than help financially.
You forgot that there was some control over the border and while some may not agree with his method, threatening to pull out of NATO unless there was more cooperation from the other countries has provided some benefits in the war between Ukraine and Russia. Didn't he also put in place regulations or policies to bring back supply chains from overseas?
 

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The Fed kept interest rates near zero for all of Obama's 8 years and started raising them throughout Trumps term?
How did a president impact you selling your house...? Obviously it would have been higher under Trump because of the time period.
Biden increased the child tax credit? Wouldn't that be a positive for him?

What measures are you basing the Biden/Obama policies harming more than help?
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My interest rate was nearly twice in 2010 as it was in 2021, I'm at 2.5% now.
The economy was strong prior to the pandemic. Deregulation contributed to that, along with other factors I'm sure. Whatever the case, that doesn't change the fact the home's value doubled as market demand increased.
Biden hasn't passed an increase in the child tax credit, it's only been proposed.

Biden's record inflation has screwed us royally. My medical deductible went up exponentially after Obama Care came into play. It used to be very little, and after it passed the deductible immediately jumped so high one of my kids has to have surgery before insurance starts to pay anything now. Their policies have taken from my pocket while Trump actually put money into it.
 

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You forgot that there was some control over the border and while some may not agree with his method, threatening to pull out of NATO unless there was more cooperation from the other countries has provided some benefits in the war between Ukraine and Russia. Didn't he also put in place regulations or policies to bring back supply chains from overseas?
It was also a period of relative peace by modern standards. We weren't giving billions away to Ukraine while Maui residents are getting a measly $700 per household. $113 billion for Ukraine is fine, but we can't even give $40 million to our own people.
 

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It was also a period of relative peace by modern standards. We weren't giving billions away to Ukraine while Maui residents are getting a measly $700 per household. $113 billion for Ukraine is fine, but we can't even give $40 million to our own people.
We aren't giving Ukraine cash.

How would javelin missiles and anti air munitions help people in Maui?
 

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You forgot that there was some control over the border and while some may not agree with his method, threatening to pull out of NATO unless there was more cooperation from the other countries has provided some benefits in the war between Ukraine and Russia. Didn't he also put in place regulations or policies to bring back supply chains from overseas?

Just here to remind everyone that Obama had the lowest border crossing numbers of any president since maybe Reagan or Carter. The border got worse under Trump, he just yelled about it more.

 

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The munitions going to Ukraine are coming straight off the assembly line. Not much coming from our stockpiles at this point, except the CBUs
 

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My interest rate was nearly twice in 2010 as it was in 2021, I'm at 2.5% now.
The economy was strong prior to the pandemic. Deregulation contributed to that, along with other factors I'm sure. Whatever the case, that doesn't change the fact the home's value doubled as market demand increased.
Biden hasn't passed an increase in the child tax credit, it's only been proposed.

Biden's record inflation has screwed us royally. My medical deductible went up exponentially after Obama Care came into play. It used to be very little, and after it passed the deductible immediately jumped so high one of my kids has to have surgery before insurance starts to pay anything now. Their policies have taken from my pocket while Trump actually put money into it.

Which interest rate do you believe is better under Trump than it was under Obama? Obviously rates are higher across the board under Biden, but which rate are you looking at for Obama. The Fed rate? LIBOR? 15/30 year fixed mortgage rate? Prime? Be specific.

Ok, so if you held your house and sold right now would you attribute the increase to Biden?

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Right - so his proposal of increasing the tax credit, is that something you support of his? Do you disagree with conservatives that don't want this increase?

Biden's record inflation - transfer payments as a % of GDP under Trump were higher than Biden, discretionary spending as a % of GDP was also higher under Trump? A higher percentage of funds were handed out from Trump than Biden, but you want to say Biden owns the inflation?

We aren't giving Ukraine cash.

How would javelin missiles and anti air munitions help people in Maui?

Can you STFU? We're right about to see someone advocate for giving citizens funds instead of euthanatizing brown people in the middle east. I'm sure this isn't opportunistic choice to support government transfers to the less fortunate instead of funding the military industrial complex. Sureelllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
 

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It was also a period of relative peace by modern standards. We weren't giving billions away to Ukraine while Maui residents are getting a measly $700 per household. $113 billion for Ukraine is fine, but we can't even give $40 million to our own people.
Ukraine money is funded by Congress and Maui isn't. Appropriation bills start in the House, so if you want to see more money go to Maui, get the Congress back in session to pass emergency funding.
 
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