Trump Presidency Round 2

[Blazers46]

You're upset at them booing because the leader of the nation to their south is bullying their country with tariffs, threatening their economic stability, and insulting them by saying they would have better healthcare by joining the US and that they wouldn't be a viable country without us? How dare someone boo the precious US of A that does everything so perfectly and morally?

Yes. National Anthems have nothing to do with the President. It’s to honor the people… the fans and players of that country. It’s disrespectful. Stay classy.

 

[ulukinatme]

Saying the people making $70k are going to feel it from Trump's policies...like the last 4 years have been gumdrops and unicorn sprinkles. Wow.

 

[Blazers46]

Saying the people making $70k are going to feel it from Trump's policies...like the last 4 years have been gumdrops and unicorn sprinkles. Wow.

He’s an accountant so he’s always a year or more behind… and he’s an idiot.

 

[bcole2]

Yes. National Anthems have nothing to do with the President. It’s to honor the people… the fans and players of that country. It’s disrespectful. Stay classy.

Well I don’t think they feel too kindly about the plurality of people that voted for the person doing it to them either. Sports aren’t in a vacuum.


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[TorontoGold]

Tariffs are horrible… for trade. Where have I defended tariffs? I have merely mentioned they have always existed because you pretend Trump invented them.

You don’t care, yet you pretend to care about people and bitch about how the other side doesn’t. Pot meet kettle. Thanks for admitting you don’t care about people. The fact that I mentioned that poverty CAN BE a mindset probably 2-3 years ago you pretend and continue to argue in horribly bad faith that I pretend poverty doesn’t exist in relation to actual finances and that poverty is some made up fairy tale in their mind. “Poverty mindset” isn’t a term I made up… I read it once… in a book… an actual text book. You’re an idiot. And I get why you brought Charlie Kirk into this, I mentioned recently I am friends with and mingled with a bunch of TPUsa staff so you fire shots like a 2 year old… ouch you hurt my feelings. You’re a POS.

Where did I pretend Trump invented them? I made the assumption you would be able to use the available data on how terrible tariffs are. I did not think you needed me to demonstrate to you that I know the existence of prior tariff usage. So, now that we have established the critical point that other presidents have done this and the most recent usage was a failure - do you now think that Trump’s tariffs will hinder free trade like I said in the original post you quoted?

You see, here’s the difference between you and me. My policy positions I advocate for, incorporate any and every person, I don’t care about nuclear families as long as a child has a good home structure, you have repeatedly said that a child needs a strong man at home. I advocate for universal healthcare, that would include those dumbass poor Trump supporters. You support people like Charlie Kirk who want to demonize and not recognize people like Colorado’s existence. Even though I detest MAGA supporters I will advocate for them to have better lives because they may not be so hateful if their material conditions improve.

 

[Blazers46]

Well I don’t think they feel too kindly about the plurality of people that voted for the person doing it to them either. Sports aren’t in a vacuum.


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Yeah… ok… so since you give them permission to boo Americans I’ll take this opportunity to repeat… fuck canada.

 

[GATTACA!]

Saying the people making $70k are going to feel it from Trump's policies...like the last 4 years have been gumdrops and unicorn sprinkles. Wow.

I would love to hear any of you guys give me a good explanation on how Trumps actions thus far are going to improve any of this. He ran (lied) on a platform of reducing costs for average Americans because Bidenomics was crushing everyone. You idiots bought it lol.

 

[NDVirginia19]

My counterpoint would be:
-Britain did exactly this last century and now the country is unrecognizably poor and terrible
-China is trying to run the entire world so it's zero sum. If you give up power voluntarily, they will fill the void.

Fair points no doubt. But British imperialism of the 1800s-1950s is distinctly different and more harsh than the farcical soft power colonialism of today. The liberalism world view of geopolitical affairs earnestly believes that there is tangible benefit to paying for DEI initiatives for Myanmar’s elite at colleges, prophylactics for the Sudanese, or defending and fertilizing opium fields in Afghanistan. I think it is right to say that the soft power USAID “provided” America is absolute horse shit and doesn’t actually help American citizens when we can’t effectively recover from natural disasters at home. The mono-party conception of American global world order is based on a unipolar world where we didn’t have an emerging China and resurgent Russia. Spending ~1% of our budget on those Ivy League contrived NGO initiatives has zero impact in a multipolar world. The UK overstayed their welcome on the global stage and retreated to their shell as the post WWII global order emerged and they withdrew from global affairs. And the UK was nowhere near as powerful as we are when then withdrew from the global stage.

I think Trump has demonstrated that he doesn’t intend to isolate the United States in its entirety, and he is more than willing to selectively implement our diplomatic, intelligence, military and economic instruments of national power when appropriate (and I would agree with the libs on this thread that he does so sometimes when inappropriate). That being said, if China wants to waste their blood and treasure defending opium fields in Afghanistan, they can be my guest.

 

[ulukinatme]

I would love to hear any of you guys give me a good explanation on how Trumps actions thus far are going to improve any of this. He ran (lied) on a platform of reducing costs for average Americans because Bidenomics was crushing everyone. You idiots bought it lol.

He could do nothing and it would be an improvement over the last four years because at least we wouldn't have ridiculous inflation to contend with. It's hilarious you guys lost everything and you're taking victory laps two weeks in. You've got no concrete evidence to back any of it up, you're looking into a crystal ball and you've decided the future is certain doom. If the crystal ball prognostications are anything like his first term, like every time we were told Trump's end was nigh and it came up nothing burgers, I think we'll be fine.

There's all this pearl clutching over tariffs, look what Columbia did when Trump threatened them with tariffs if they weren't taking back their migrants, they reversed course and sent their own plane to pick them up. Consider that it could all be a bluff, or he plans to use the tariffs for leverage. He's made positive impacts already. He pushed Netanyahu even before the inauguration and was instrumental in getting the ceasefire and prisoner exchange done. We're seeing lower border incidents already, and deportations have begun.

I'm not really worried a bit about the economy right now. Based on Trump's first term and Biden's latest one, Trump would have to fuck up pretty royally to tank things as badly as Biden. It's almost impossible to get prices across the board to go down, unless you're seeing surpluses across the board or a drop in demand, prices will always remain somewhat fixed or be increasing with inflation. We could see gas prices drop still, and egg prices could improve once the bird flu runs it's course. At this point I'll take a drop in gas, anything helps. I was happy to see $2.59 yesterday.


It's funny that you think conservatives are the ones responsible for you guys losing total control. You did this to yourselves. You lost independents, as well as some of your own constituents.

 

[Irish#1]

I would love to hear any of you guys give me a good explanation on how Trumps actions thus far are going to improve any of this. He ran (lied) on a platform of reducing costs for average Americans because Bidenomics was crushing everyone. You idiots bought it lol.

OMG, he lied? Just like damn near every politician ever including his predecessor. Everyone including us idiots knows that it takes time to reduce inflation and prices.

While he did say he was going to reduce prices, that's not why he won. Trump won because of Biden's "Turn the other cheek" border policy and the cultural wrong turn our country made.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I would love to hear any of you guys give me a good explanation on how Trumps actions thus far are going to improve any of this. He ran (lied) on a platform of reducing costs for average Americans because Bidenomics was crushing everyone. You idiots bought it lol.

You guys having a meltdown and crying non-stop after only two weeks is entertaining and funny to say the least. Pace yourself, bro. Gonna be a long four years for you at this rate!

 

[drayer54]

He could do nothing and it would be an improvement over the last four years because at least we wouldn't have ridiculous inflation to contend with. It's hilarious you guys lost everything and you're taking victory laps two weeks in. You've got no concrete evidence to back any of it up, you're looking into a crystal ball and you've decided the future is certain doom. If the crystal ball prognostications are anything like his first term, like every time we were told Trump's end was nigh and it came up nothing burgers, I think we'll be fine.

There's all this pearl clutching over tariffs, look what Columbia did when Trump threatened them with tariffs if they weren't taking back their migrants, they reversed course and sent their own plane to pick them up. Consider that it could all be a bluff, or he plans to use the tariffs for leverage. He's made positive impacts already. He pushed Netanyahu even before the inauguration and was instrumental in getting the ceasefire and prisoner exchange done. We're seeing lower border incidents already, and deportations have begun.

I'm not really worried a bit about the economy right now. Based on Trump's first term and Biden's latest one, Trump would have to fuck up pretty royally to tank things as badly as Biden. It's almost impossible to get prices across the board to go down, unless you're seeing surpluses across the board or a drop in demand, prices will always remain somewhat fixed or be increasing with inflation. We could see gas prices drop still, and egg prices could improve once the bird flu runs it's course. At this point I'll take a drop in gas, anything helps. I was happy to see $2.59 yesterday.


It's funny that you think conservatives are the ones responsible for you guys losing total control. You did this to yourselves. You lost independents, as well as some of your own constituents.

I find it funny when they say ‘you idiots fell for it.’ Like this didn’t just happen.
Tap the sign.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Whenever Republicans do something stupid, just remember- the other side is even dumber.

 

[drayer54]

Weird.

https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/denmark-opens-door-for-increased-us-military-presence-in-greenland-93CH-3845512

 

[Blazers46]

Where did I pretend Trump invented them? I made the assumption you would be able to use the available data on how terrible tariffs are. I did not think you needed me to demonstrate to you that I know the existence of prior tariff usage. So, now that we have established the critical point that other presidents have done this and the most recent usage was a failure - do you now think that Trump’s tariffs will hinder free trade like I said in the original post you quoted?

You see, here’s the difference between you and me. My policy positions I advocate for, incorporate any and every person, I don’t care about nuclear families as long as a child has a good home structure, you have repeatedly said that a child needs a strong man at home. I advocate for universal healthcare, that would include those dumbass poor Trump supporters. You support people like Charlie Kirk who want to demonize and not recognize people like Colorado’s existence. Even though I detest MAGA supporters I will advocate for them to have better lives because they may not be so hateful if their material conditions improve.

Good morning good sir… I’ve answered your question. You keep asking the same dumb question over and over and over. Tariffs BY DESIGN hinder free trade. Trumps tariffs BY DESIGN hinder free trade. THATS THE POINT!

You treat people like shit on this forum and you talk shit about people all the time… like the poor hicks in Ohio you just mentioned. Stop pretending you care about people. You policy positions enable any and very person. Children need a strong role model in the family but your solution is to give them government in place of a father and nuclear family… that’s basically what you just wrote and it’s hilarious and I feel bad for you.

Colorado is allowed to exist. When I wake up as a straight white man I don’t have to scan my straight white card to be allowed in society. Just the same for Colorado. People like you have told him and keep pounding and pounding into him nonstop that he’s a victim and Trump is going to round him up. Poor Colorado thinks this is a Harry Potter movie and Trump is going to cast a spell and make him disappear.

Speaking of Colorado…Him, Gattaca and Calves and some random new guys are applauding people booing the National Anthem. It’s fascinating how people jump ship and spite their country to appease their politics.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Good morning good sir… I’ve answered your question. You keep asking the same dumb question over and over and over. Tariffs BY DESIGN hinder free trade. Trumps tariffs BY DESIGN hinder free trade. THATS THE POINT!

You treat people like shit on this forum and you talk shit about people all the time… like the poor hicks in Ohio you just mentioned. Stop pretending you care about people. You policy positions enable any and very person. Children need a strong role model in the family but your solution is to give them government in place of a father and nuclear family… that’s basically what you just wrote and it’s hilarious and I feel bad for you.

Colorado is allowed to exist. When I wake up as a straight white man I don’t have to scan my straight white card to be allowed in society. Just the same for Colorado. People like you have told him and keep pounding and pounding into him nonstop that he’s a victim and Trump is going to round him up. Poor Colorado thinks this is a Harry Potter movie and Trump is going to cast a spell and make him disappear.

Speaking of Colorado…Him, Gattaca and Calves and some random new guys are applauding people booing the National Anthem. It’s fascinating how people jump ship and spite their country to appease their politics.

This administration is doing everything in it's power to make it as impossible at they can for transgender people to exist. The executive orders here has signed are not just targeting transgender kids but also adults. This isn't some make believe world. This is my new reality.

And I said nothing at all about the national anthem, so I'm not sure why I'm getting brought up with that.

 

[NorthDakota]

Colombia folded. Panama is folding. Greenland is ours!

 

[Blazers46]

This administration is doing everything in it's power to make it as impossible at they can for transgender people to exist. The executive orders here has signed are not just targeting transgender kids but also adults. This isn't some make believe world. This is my new reality.

And I said nothing at all about the national anthem, so I'm not sure why I'm getting brought up with that.

Amazing you can post on a forum. I figure you’d be in hiding. Please tell me how your existence is threatened and where are you supposedly going?

 

[drayer54]

Colombia folded. Panama is folding. Greenland is ours!

The liberal mind cannot comprehend this.

See How Russia Is Winning the Race to Dominate the Arctic

Moscow is growing its footprint at the top of the world, working with China—and leaving the U.S. behind.

www.wsj.com

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Trump's Justice Department starts sweeping cuts targeting Jan. 6 prosecutors, FBI agents

A group representing FBI agents issued a rare public warning of the potential for hundreds of firings at the nation's top law enforcement agency.

www.usatoday.com

Elon Musk's DOGE commission gains access to sensitive Treasury payment systems: AP sources

The move by DOGE means it could have wide leeway to access important taxpayer data, among other things.

apnews.com

Purging anyone in the FBI and DOJ that worked on anything having to do with January 6th.

Elon Musk has access to the Treasury. Douchebag overlord that nobody elected just walking around with a group of tech bro minions aged 19-24 doing whatever they feel like.

I'm assuming that at some point these actions with directly or indirectly get egg prices and gas prices down? Or maybe that's making everyone remove pronouns from their emails because that's super fucking important on a national scale.

Commence with your MAGA mental gymnastics about how all of this is totally fine. #ButHerEmails.

 

[GATTACA!]

You guys having a meltdown and crying non-stop after only two weeks is entertaining and funny to say the least. Pace yourself, bro. Gonna be a long four years for you at this rate!

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The longest part will be you posting the same tired shit every single time someone disagrees with you.

 

[bcole2]

Good morning good sir… I’ve answered your question. You keep asking the same dumb question over and over and over. Tariffs BY DESIGN hinder free trade. Trumps tariffs BY DESIGN hinder free trade. THATS THE POINT!

You treat people like shit on this forum and you talk shit about people all the time… like the poor hicks in Ohio you just mentioned. Stop pretending you care about people. You policy positions enable any and very person. Children need a strong role model in the family but your solution is to give them government in place of a father and nuclear family… that’s basically what you just wrote and it’s hilarious and I feel bad for you.

Colorado is allowed to exist. When I wake up as a straight white man I don’t have to scan my straight white card to be allowed in society. Just the same for Colorado. People like you have told him and keep pounding and pounding into him nonstop that he’s a victim and Trump is going to round him up. Poor Colorado thinks this is a Harry Potter movie and Trump is going to cast a spell and make him disappear.

Speaking of Colorado…Him, Gattaca and Calves and some random new guys are applauding people booing the National Anthem. It’s fascinating how people jump ship and spite their country to appease their politics.

I’m not applauding it, I’m saying I understand it. Don’t clutch your pearls when people from another country are angered by actions that threaten their economic stability and way of life.

Regardless of how the tariffs work out for the US, try to step outside of the America First bubble for a second and have some empathy for the people that could be affected by the policy decisions and understand why they feel so backstabbed by their closest ally and neighbor. They stood with us during 9/11 and our darkest hours and saw us as practically family. Now they are being attacked for what reason? A miniscule amount of drugs and people crossing the border, all while bad things cross the border into their country from the US as well?

It’s a myopic and foolhardy view to not recognize the issue of alienating a close ally when you may need to rely on them in the future if shit hits the fan.


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[GATTACA!]

Trump's Justice Department starts sweeping cuts targeting Jan. 6 prosecutors, FBI agents

A group representing FBI agents issued a rare public warning of the potential for hundreds of firings at the nation's top law enforcement agency.

www.usatoday.com

Elon Musk's DOGE commission gains access to sensitive Treasury payment systems: AP sources

The move by DOGE means it could have wide leeway to access important taxpayer data, among other things.

apnews.com

Purging anyone in the FBI and DOJ that worked on anything having to do with January 6th.

Elon Musk has access to the Treasury. Douchebag overlord that nobody elected just walking around with a group of tech bro minions aged 19-24 doing whatever they feel like.

I'm assuming that at some point these actions with directly or indirectly get egg prices and gas prices down? Or maybe that's making everyone remove pronouns from their emails because that's super fucking important on a national scale.

Commence with your MAGA mental gymnastics about how all of this is totally fine. #ButHerEmails.

iTs gOnNa bE a lOnG fOuR yEaRs!

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Amazing you can post on a forum. I figure you’d be in hiding. Please tell me how your existence is threatened and where are you supposedly going?

Any of the numerous anti trans executive orders. They're being written so if they stand up to legal challenges it will completely invalidate any research or standards used for transgender people, WPATH specifically will be thrown out if challenges aren't successful.

Not providing federal funds for hospitals or any place that partakes in gender ideology will also eliminate me and others from receiving healthcare.

Trans people are being denied passports and because of that are unable to travel.

Anything related to transgender has been scrubbed from any government website as well.

 

[Blazers46]

I’m not applauding it, I’m saying I understand it. Don’t clutch your pearls when people from another country are angered by actions that threaten their economic stability and way of life.

Regardless of how the tariffs work out for the US, try to step outside of the America First bubble for a second and have some empathy for the people that could be affected by the policy decisions and understand why they feel so backstabbed by their closest ally and neighbor. They stood with us during 9/11 and our darkest hours and saw us as practically family. Now they are being attacked for what reason? A miniscule amount of drugs and people crossing the border, all while bad things cross the border into their country from the US as well?

It’s a myopic and foolhardy view to not recognize the issue of alienating a close ally when you may need to rely on them in the future if shit hits the fan.


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I think we all understand the why. That’s the obvious part despite how ignorant they are for doing it and how ignorant you and others seem to be for justifying and essentially applauding it. Politics over country, understood.

 

[calvegas04]

The liberal mind cannot comprehend this.

See How Russia Is Winning the Race to Dominate the Arctic

Moscow is growing its footprint at the top of the world, working with China—and leaving the U.S. behind.

www.wsj.com

I thought russia was the good guy to MAGA folks?

 

[Giddyup]

Mexico doesn’t like Tarrifs either. 1 month suspension on Mexico’s Tarrifs after Mexico’s president and Trump spoke.

There is no such thing as free trade. Everyone decided to not play by those rules except us…which made us intentional suckers and drained our manufacturing

 

[bcole2]

I think we all understand the why. That’s the obvious part despite how ignorant they are for doing it and how ignorant you and others seem to be for justifying and essentially applauding it. Politics over country, understood.

Country over human decency for you, got it.

 

[Blazers46]

Country over human decency for you, got it.

Booing a whole nation because you’re mad at one guy is the decent thing to do? Got it. 😂

 

[TorontoGold]

Good morning good sir… I’ve answered your question. You keep asking the same dumb question over and over and over. Tariffs BY DESIGN hinder free trade. Trumps tariffs BY DESIGN hinder free trade. THATS THE POINT!

You treat people like shit on this forum and you talk shit about people all the time… like the poor hicks in Ohio you just mentioned. Stop pretending you care about people. You policy positions enable any and very person. Children need a strong role model in the family but your solution is to give them government in place of a father and nuclear family… that’s basically what you just wrote and it’s hilarious and I feel bad for you.

Colorado is allowed to exist. When I wake up as a straight white man I don’t have to scan my straight white card to be allowed in society. Just the same for Colorado. People like you have told him and keep pounding and pounding into him nonstop that he’s a victim and Trump is going to round him up. Poor Colorado thinks this is a Harry Potter movie and Trump is going to cast a spell and make him disappear.

Speaking of Colorado…Him, Gattaca and Calves and some random new guys are applauding people booing the National Anthem. It’s fascinating how people jump ship and spite their country to appease their politics.

Got it - so you disagree with Trump on tariffs.

I treat people the way they deserve to be treated. I don't take the stance to treat someone like shit just because. Look at NoDak, him and I have very different views but we're cordial and can speak like rational human beings to each other. Maybe it's because he's able to look at data critically and brings a deeper understanding of legal matters because that's where he's trained in.

Poor hicks in Ohio are trivial in comparison to the number of women who've wanted access to their healthcare needs through abortion access, and the numerous LGBTQ people who've seen their identity attacked by those who support MAGA. I'll take being cruel to a targeted group of people who are trivial in comparison to the people who they are hurting.

You say "him", she's said she's a woman before.

Booing? Oh boy, you're going to be upset that some blue collar folk at a hockey game are pissed off that something is going to directly impact them because it's being done on the pretense of 43 pounds of fentanyl being seized. It's like if my dog peed on your lawn and burnt out a small patch, and then you decided to smash a window and wondered why I told the neighbors you sucked.