Trump Presidency Round 2

[GATTACA!]

Keep asking the wrong questions. Why would she be exempt from the process others follow? Why is she a special snowflake that should get to skip confirmation hearings and background checks that hundreds of other cabinet appointees have gone through?

Literally all I'm advocating for is that Tulsi Gabbard be treated with normal due diligence and that her confirmation should follow the standard constitutional process. This is making some people big mad because.....?

Almost makes you wonder about their motivations 🤔

 

[IrishLax]

Checks & Imbalances: Gabbard’s Pro-Putin Patron, Russian Oligarch Indicted

Welcome to the latest issue of Checks & Imbalances, Forbes’ newsletter on money and politics. Today, we look at the political donations of a pro-Russia activist and a Russian businessperson.

www.forbes.com

Not to speak for Lax, but he may be referencing this when tying her to Russia.

There's a whole bunch of shit I'm not posting or linking too, like how her biggest donor a few years ago was a pro-Russia PAC. That's not really the point. I'm not here to guess what Russia's point of view is and "why are they supporting her financially and publicly?"

I'm trying to make two simple points that I'm frankly surprised so many people object to:
1. Russians absolutely do try to buy influence and there are a number of people who have been caught.
2. The entire point of a confirmation process is to review things like qualifications, character, and conflicts of interest for people who will be in very influential positions. That's why it's in the Constitution in the first place, and everyone should have to go through that process.

People seem to be arguing that Russian doesn't do anything nefarious and/or that we shouldn't have confirmations.

 

[TorontoGold]

There's a whole bunch of shit I'm not posting or linking too, like how her biggest donor a few years ago was a pro-Russia PAC. That's not really the point. I'm not here to guess what Russia's point of view is and "why are they supporting her financially and publicly?"

I'm trying to make two simple points that I'm frankly surprised so many people object to:
1. Russians absolutely do try to buy influence and there are a number of people who have been caught.
2. The entire point of a confirmation process is to review things like qualifications, character, and conflicts of interest for people who will be in very influential positions. That's why it's in the Constitution in the first place, and everyone should have to go through that process.

People seem to be arguing that Russian doesn't do anything nefarious and/or that we shouldn't have confirmations.

Agree with you. I don't get it either, just because someone is being "reviewed" maybe there's blind spots. Plus, like you mentioned about Bobby M, imagine if Biden put him in the cabinet and people said "oh well, he doesn't need to face the confirmation process" and then it later came out about his Egypt stuff.

I know that the comparisons to Hunter Biden are out there, but like, did Joe try and put him in the cabinet? No? Ok. Would those same people lose their absolute mind if he did? Of course they would and they would be correct in doing so.

I don't even think it's a nefarious reason as to why "<3333333 Tulsi". She's an attractive middle aged woman who stand's out against some of the ghouls that are middle aged Republican woman. Plus she swapped parties purely to own the libs with no real positions other than "DNC bad".

 

[Irish#1]

Seems like good news for the new health admin to get bipartisan support on food corruption before the new term even begins.

I'm assuming this is true.......Wow

 

[Blazers46]

Keep asking the wrong questions. Why would she be exempt from the process others follow? Why is she a special snowflake that should get to skip confirmation hearings and background checks that hundreds of other cabinet appointees have gone through?

Literally all I'm advocating for is that Tulsi Gabbard be treated with normal due diligence and that her confirmation should follow the standard constitutional process. This is making some people big mad because.....?

I agree on the confirmation hearings. No answer for you. Background checks are not part of a constitutional process in this regard, they are just a norm others have used, correct?

 

[IrishLax]

I agree on the confirmation hearings. No answer for you. Background checks are not part of a constitutional process in this regard, they are just a norm others have used, correct?

I doubt that the FBI existed when the Constitution was written, so I think the answer is certainly no. Here's what the internet says:
-Background checks became formalized in the 60s.
-Since 1973, it has been the norm as part of the vetting and confirmation process that a background check get done and the information conveyed to the Senate.
-The Ethics in Government Act of 1978 established clear guidelines for background checks, financial disclosure, and other forms of scrutiny for presidential appointments, including cabinet members.

It is obvious how and why someone like Gaetz wouldn't make it through the vetting process, my gut is that both RFK and Tulsi would actually be fine.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

I'm assuming this is true.......Wow

Yes it's true. Give Casey Means, Calley Means, and Vani Hari a follow. Fascinating (and terrifying) stuff from them on a regular basis.

There is a viral post about Canadian Heinz Ketchup (paging Toronto to do a quick grocery run for us) compared to US-made Heinz ketchup. It's the same product, but with entirely different ingredients because in Canada, all the shit ingredients are banned.

Currently there's a big push to get these ingredients banned and removed from common foods like cereal.

If anyone is genuinely interested in reducing healthcare costs, fixing the food industry would be a good place to start.

 

[GATTACA!]

Yes it's true. Give Casey Means, Calley Means, and Vani Hari a follow. Fascinating (and terrifying) stuff from them on a regular basis.

There is a viral post about Canadian Heinz Ketchup (paging Toronto to do a quick grocery run for us) compared to US-made Heinz ketchup. It's the same product, but with entirely different ingredients because in Canada, all the shit ingredients are banned.

Currently there's a big push to get these ingredients banned and removed from common foods like cereal.

If anyone is genuinely interested in reducing healthcare costs, fixing the food industry would be a good place to start.

If this is what RFK spends his time working on instead of his crazy vaccine bs then good. We'll all be better off.

 

[Blazers46]

I doubt that the FBI existed when the Constitution was written, so I think the answer is certainly no. Here's what the internet says:
-Background checks became formalized in the 60s.
-Since 1973, it has been the norm as part of the vetting and confirmation process that a background check get done and the information conveyed to the Senate.
-The Ethics in Government Act of 1978 established clear guidelines for background checks, financial disclosure, and other forms of scrutiny for presidential appointments, including cabinet members.

It is obvious how and why someone like Gaetz wouldn't make it through the vetting process, my gut is that both RFK and Tulsi would actually be fine.

Right. And it doesn’t say FBI. Many private and government sectors can do simple background checks. Which in this case, private I assume.

 

[ulukinatme]

These are the same people that think Hunter Biden is a great businessman and a modern day Pablo Picasso.

I just saw that the same people beating the drum on the "Tulsi is a Russian asset!" are the ones that verified the Hunter laptop was Russian made and not legit, John Brennan being one of them. Listen to Bernie, bros. Quit dragging a member of our military through the mud unless you have something concrete.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

If this is what RFK spends his time working on instead of his crazy vaccine bs then good. We'll all be better off.

I think that's pretty much how everyone feels. From everything I've read and listened to (podcasts, interviews, etc), the main focus of "MAHA" is attacking the corruption within our health system as it pertains to food, farming, pharmaceuticals, etc. It includes going after the FDA, NIH, etc. If you listen to Casey and Calley, they present a rather horrifying case as to what they uncovered is causing (and profiting from) the chronic illness endemic. It's my understanding that they're behind RFK's push for reform. The tentacles are far reaching though. They will likely be demonized and ostracized for their collaboration, but as long as they can get the job done, idc. This has been something I've been passionate about for over a decade.

 

[drayer54]

Almost makes you wonder about their motivations 🤔

Fastest path to Project 2025.

 

[GATTACA!]

Quit dragging a member of our military through the mud unless you have something concrete.

Asking for her to face the same exact scrutiny that every other cabinet appointee faces is not dragging her though the mud lol.

 

[Giddyup]

WASHINGTON DC – An official at FBI headquarters in Washington is warning that the bureau’s security clearance division is politicized and can’t be trusted to screen President-elect Donald Trump’s nominees for top administration jobs.

The allegations of political bias at the FBI’s security division, or SecD, were revealed in a protected whistleblower disclosure sent to the House Judiciary Committee, which The Washington Times reviewed.

The official said the security clearance process has been “contaminated by the political agendas of [security division] officials and other executives in the FBI.”

“In 2016 the FBI used their power to conduct security clearances as a tool to stall and block President Trump appointments. Historically this is one of the ways a very corrupt and political FBI interfere in any system that might be against the interests of the Intelligence Community that controls them. However, in 2024 President-Elect Trump and his transition team have already taken a different approach.”

I wouldn’t send a damn one of them to the DC FBI. Trump has absolutely no reason to trust them anymore. Maybe the candidates local law enforcement can run a fair and timely background check.

 

[Bishop2b5]

If this is what RFK spends his time working on instead of his crazy vaccine bs then good. We'll all be better off.

And lower the amount of sugar in food.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I wouldn’t send a damn one of them to the DC FBI. Trump has absolutely no reason to trust them anymore. Maybe the candidates local law enforcement can run a fair and timely background check.

I would agree if the quoted was the justification for not doing FBI background checks on a couple, then you shouldn’t send any of the appointees for background checks. If you do the FBI background checks on some and not others, it just smells like an excuse.

 

[Sea Turtle]

WASHINGTON DC – An official at FBI headquarters in Washington is warning that the bureau’s security clearance division is politicized and can’t be trusted to screen President-elect Donald Trump’s nominees for top administration jobs.

The allegations of political bias at the FBI’s security division, or SecD, were revealed in a protected whistleblower disclosure sent to the House Judiciary Committee, which The Washington Times reviewed.

The official said the security clearance process has been “contaminated by the political agendas of [security division] officials and other executives in the FBI.”

“In 2016 the FBI used their power to conduct security clearances as a tool to stall and block President Trump appointments. Historically this is one of the ways a very corrupt and political FBI interfere in any system that might be against the interests of the Intelligence Community that controls them. However, in 2024 President-Elect Trump and his transition team have already taken a different approach.”

I wouldn’t send a damn one of them to the DC FBI. Trump has absolutely no reason to trust them anymore. Maybe the candidates local law enforcement can run a fair and timely background check.

This. It's sad but the FBI, DOJ, and the intelligence agencies will never be believed in the same manner again. They used to be neutral. Now they are partisan.

I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that The DOJ lied on fiisa warrants multiple times in order to spy on a presidential campaign. It's truly astonishing.

 

[ulukinatme]

Asking for her to face the same exact scrutiny that every other cabinet appointee faces is not dragging her though the mud lol.

Nice twist, but I was referring to the Russian asset propaganda. Tell me the pearl clutching would be the same over the background check if the Russian asset rumor wasn't started by Hillary.

It's kinda funny how in 2012 Romney was asked who our greatest geopolitical foe was and he said Russia, then the Dems laughed at him. Four years later they'll call any anti-establishment politician as someone in league with Russia, Russia, Russia! It's only slightly less ridiculous than calling every opponent a Nazi.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Comey BRAGGED about this in front of a giggling audience. If I was Trump, I would tell the FBI to pound sand too. I wouldn't let them anywhere near my people again.

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/421530-no-glory-in-james-comey-getting-away-with-his-abuse-of-fbi-power/

 

[Giddyup]

They entrapped general Flynn too in his initial presidency. No audio, only notes lol. Fuck em, they’re dirty right now. Hopefully Trump can clean up some of the lawfare partisanship.

 

[ulukinatme]

They entrapped general Flynn too in his initial presidency. No audio, only notes lol. Fuck em, they’re dirty right now. Hopefully Trump can clean up some of the lawfare partisanship.

I read somewhere this is why they don't want Tulsi in her position, they're afraid she'll investigate who illegally leaked Flynn's name to the CIA.

 

[Irish#1]

This. It's sad but the FBI, DOJ, and the intelligence agencies will never be believed in the same manner again. They used to be neutral. Now they are partisan.

I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that The DOJ lied on fiisa warrants multiple times in order to spy on a presidential campaign. It's truly astonishing.

J Edgar says hello.

 

[Bishop2b5]

This. It's sad but the FBI, DOJ, and the intelligence agencies will never be believed in the same manner again. They used to be neutral. Now they are partisan.

I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that The DOJ lied on fiisa warrants multiple times in order to spy on a presidential campaign. It's truly astonishing.

J Edgar says hello.

In Sea Turtle's defense, post JEH, they did build a rep for being impartial. That was sort of their calling card: to be totally nonpartisan, above the political fray, and an unbiased pursuer of truth. Not so much anymore.

 

[NDVirginia19]

The FBI definitely has some internal problems that need to be fixed up and I think it is more likely to happen under a Trump admin and a Harris admin would have likely led to more internal rot. That being said, I am fully expecting Trump's team to try to run it like the Democrats but just in the other direction.

 

[RDU Irish]

The FBI definitely has some internal problems that need to be fixed up and I think it is more likely to happen under a Trump admin and a Harris admin would have likely led to more internal rot. That being said, I am fully expecting Trump's team to try to run it like the Democrats but just in the other direction.

Only path I can see for them is to redeploy to focus on deportations and drug cartels. As far as I can tell, vast majority of "domestic terrorism" is FBI cultivated or fabricated. Their demand for it greatly outstrips the supply. When you cause more problems than you solve, time to stop digging and send them home.

 

[Blazers46]

7% votes in California still needing to be counted. 😂

 

[drayer54]

7% votes in California still needing to be counted. 😂

This is peak California performance

 

[Irish#1]

7% votes in California still needing to be counted. 😂

Color me surprised.

Did anyone see the number of homes on the market in California go up dramatically after Trump won? Weird, neither did I.

 

[dublinirish]

 

[Giddyup]