Trump Presidency Round 2

[IrishLax]

She wound up on the watchlist after she criticized Kamala in July. That's not fishy or anything.

Is Tulsi Gabbard on TSA terrorist watchlist? What she's said

Gabbard has suggested that she was targeted by the TSA over her support of President-elect Donald Trump.

www.newsweek.com

Do you *actually* not get it or are you doing a bit? She herself is claiming she’s on a “watchlist”, no one else is. Why do you think she is doing that?

Point is that it’s 80 IQ to say things like “why would a member of the military need a background check” and “why isn’t she being investigated.” That would be like claiming on September 1st “if Bob Menendez is shady why isn’t he being investigated” … it’s literally not how stuff works.

 

[Blazers46]

Do you *actually* not get it or are you doing a bit? She herself is claiming she’s on a “watchlist”, no one else is. Why do you think she is doing that?

Point is that it’s 80 IQ to say things like “why would a member of the military need a background check” and “why isn’t she being investigated.” That would be like claiming on September 1st “if Bob Menendez is shady why isn’t he being investigated” … it’s literally not how stuff works.

What people aren’t realizing. Members of the military go through continuous counterintelligence background checks in order to stay/join in the military.

I’ll also add, if she were on an official “terror” or other watchlist she would not be serving in the US military.

 

[GATTACA!]

What people aren’t realizing. Members of the military go through continuous counterintelligence background checks in order to stay/join in the military.

I’ll also add, if she were on an official “terror” or other watchlist she would not be serving in the US military.

Then it should be no problem to have her pass a background check, just like every other cabinet appointee in history.

 

[Blazers46]

Then it should be no problem to have her pass a background check, just like every other cabinet appointee in history.

I don’t even think it would be necessary to be honest. An FBI background check vs a national security check through the DoD? Part of the DoD investigation process is an FBI background check. Lol. If she has foreign contacts or foreign anything it is investigated. Reviews of passports and ALL foreign travel and on and on… even personal finances

 

[IrishLax]

What people aren’t realizing. Members of the military go through continuous counterintelligence background checks in order to stay/join in the military.

I’ll also add, if she were on an official “terror” or other watchlist she would not be serving in the US military.

So then why is she claiming that she is?

If she's not on a list, why did she lie about it? Easy to figure out. If she is on a list, why is she on it and why? Less easy to figure out, but there are plausible explanations.

 

[IrishLax]

People have their brains cooked by the "Russia collusion hoax"... the truth is that Russia -- like every major geopolitical power -- attempts to meddle in other country's shit. We know for an absolute fact that they pay a lot of political operators as well as influencers to push their agenda and propaganda. I don't know how we got to the point where we pretend this isn't the case, especially because many people have been convicted and the DoJ is constantly making arrests when they catch Russia in the act. Examples...

Political People Convicted of Russia-related Stuff
Paul Manafort
George Papadopoulos
Richard Pinedo
Alex van der Zwaan
Roger Stone
Rick Gates
Michael Flynn
etc

Media People being Paid by Russia
Tim Pool
Dave Rubin
Benny Johnson
+many others

Media People Suspected to be Tied to Russian Nonsense
Tulsi Gabbard -- had money donated to her by a Russian foreign agent arrested in 2022; is publicly lauded by Russian state media; met with Assad and pushed pro-Assad propaganda; has spent the past few years pushing Russian talking points with virtually verbatim language to their own state media
Caitlin Johnstone -- lefty blogger with hundreds of thousands of followers that fell on hard time and then "randomly" pivoted to full-throated Russian propaganda
Tucker Carlson -- leaked Kremlin memos about how to use Carlson, did propaganda pieces that Russia was worried were too "on the nose" to be effective

People Not Directly Tied to Russian Nonsense
Donald Trump

Tulsi Gabbard is not someone who has been charged of anything or convicted. She has been proven to have taken money from a Russian foreign agent that was arrested, but it was a small nominal amount not the hundreds of thousands of dollars that other media people were caught taking.

But ask yourself... if Tulsi Gabbard is squeaky clean, then why are they afraid of confirmation hearings and background checks?

 

[Blazers46]

So then why is she claiming that she is?

If she's not on a list, why did she lie about it? Easy to figure out. If she is on a list, why is she on it and why? Less easy to figure out, but there are plausible explanations.

If you research what “list” she is talking about she is talking about TSAs quiet skies program (I’ve honestly never heard of it) google says it’s a TSA list for people not on a terror list and/or the person is not currently being investigated by the government for any reason at all.

 

[Blazers46]

But ask yourself... if Tulsi Gabbard is squeaky clean, then why are they afraid of confirmation hearings and background checks?

Tulsi isn’t. She is part of the US Military that goes through a much more extensive counterintelligence check than a “background check”. She’s been in the military for 20+ years and has had more people looking at her passports and banks accounts than most currently in office.

 

[ulukinatme]

Do you *actually* not get it or are you doing a bit? She herself is claiming she’s on a “watchlist”, no one else is. Why do you think she is doing that?

Point is that it’s 80 IQ to say things like “why would a member of the military need a background check” and “why isn’t she being investigated.” That would be like claiming on September 1st “if Bob Menendez is shady why isn’t he being investigated” … it’s literally not how stuff works.

Why is she saying that she's on that watchlist? Because it's true? Why would she lie about something like that? She obviously does a lot of flying, you don't think it's suspicious that she suddenly wound up on that list after criticizing the Biden regime?

I don't have a problem with her not getting a background check because she's already getting regular checks given her clearance and military status. They did away with the old system, they do continuous evaluations now. Do you have family members with certain military clearance? My father-in-law still gets background checks and visits from the government every few years because of his clearance and the fact he used to work on nuclear triggers. Even though he's been out of the game for many years they still check up on him regularly, make sure he's not living beyond his means as if he was selling secrets and such. My point was it's a waste of time and resources for her.

 

[JadedDomer]

Lots of pages on why this, why that. Nothing listed that Tulsi has ever done or said that's actually concerning. Just continued blind trust in the actions of entities that have lied/covered up for years. If the last 4 years haven't shown you the unelected agencies will make life hell if you're on the wrong side, nothing will.

 

[Blazers46]

Lots of pages of words. Nothing listed that Tulsi has ever done or said that's actually concerning. Just blind trust in the actions of entities that have lied/covered up for years.

There is actually more proof she’s clean than not.

 

[IrishLax]

Tulsi isn’t. She is part of the US Military that goes through a much more extensive counterintelligence check than a “background check”. She’s been in the military for 20+ years and has had more people looking at her passports and banks accounts than most currently in office.

Ok cool then let her go through the confirmation process and answer questions under oath. And publicly release her vetting. Simple, isn't it?

 

[IrishLax]

Lots of pages on why this, why that. Nothing listed that Tulsi has ever done or said that's actually concerning. Just continued blind trust in the actions of entities that have lied/covered up for years. If the last 4 years haven't shown you the unelected agencies will make life hell if you're on the wrong side, nothing will.

She literally took money from a Russian foreign agent who was arrested in 2022. She was the only politician that agent gave money to.

 

[IrishLax]

Why is she saying that she's on that watchlist? Because it's true? Why would she lie about something like that? She obviously does a lot of flying, you don't think it's suspicious that she suddenly wound up on that list after criticizing the Biden regime?

I don't have a problem with her not getting a background check because she's already getting regular checks given her clearance and military status. They did away with the old system, they do continuous evaluations now. Do you have family members with certain military clearance? My father-in-law still gets background checks and visits from the government every few years because of his clearance and the fact he used to work on nuclear triggers. Even though he's been out of the game for many years they still check up on him regularly, make sure he's not living beyond his means as if he was selling secrets and such. My point was it's a waste of time and resources for her.

I had a TS earlier in my career, no longer active as I work in the private sector.

There are tons of people with clearances who are later caught as foreign agents, acting like the "continuous evaluation" is thorough or catches everyone is not based in reality.

If there is nothing to hide, let her go through a full and normal confirmation process. The fees/time associated with a background check are so small you can't honestly believe that's a rationale to start exempting people from normal processes.

 

[JadedDomer]

She literally took money from a Russian foreign agent who was arrested in 2022. She was the only politician that agent gave money to.

What was the money for? Exactly what? And how much?

If it's damming and they've had 3 years to cook up the story, the details of the transaction must be everywhere.

 

[Irish#1]

She literally took money from a Russian foreign agent who was arrested in 2022. She was the only politician that agent gave money to.

This discussion got me curious, so I did a quick google.

From Newsweek.

"What the media is lying about is the fact that an American citizen [Elena Branson] gave my campaign a $59 contribution, coming from a woman I have never met, never talked to, don't know and don't know anything about.

I could see her not knowing about a $59 donation to her campaign.

 

[IrishLax]

What was the money for? Exactly what? And how much?

If it's damming and they've had 3 years to cook up the story, the details of the transaction must be everywhere.

They are everywhere, smart guy. I already linked it. Like I said, it was a very small amount of money.

"cook up the story" ... lmao the person was literally arrested, there is public record of this. Tulsi said she didn't know who she was when she took the donation.

The level of confidence in this post is astounding when you can just use Google.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Seems like good news for the new health admin to get bipartisan support on food corruption before the new term even begins.

 

[JadedDomer]

This discussion got me curious, so I did a quick google.

From Newsweek.


I could see her not knowing about a $59 donation to her campaign.

Lmao.

 

[Blazers46]

Ok cool then let her go through the confirmation process and answer questions under oath. And publicly release her vetting. Simple, isn't it?

Why would you need to publicly release that you have been continuously vetted over and over and over for 20 plus years? This isn’t just something the DoD releases for public consumption. Lol.

 

[RDU Irish]

This discussion got me curious, so I did a quick google.

From Newsweek.


I could see her not knowing about a $59 donation to her campaign.

Does nobody appreciate the massive volume of the populace does not trust these three letter agencies to honestly vet anyone? This is exactly why. Lax and others in a lather over a $59 rando campaign contribution as if she is beholden to Vlad forever obviously.

 

[Blazers46]

I had a TS earlier in my career, no longer active as I work in the private sector.

There are tons of people with clearances who are later caught as foreign agents, acting like the "continuous evaluation" is thorough or catches everyone is not based in reality.

If there is nothing to hide, let her go through a full and normal confirmation process. The fees/time associated with a background check are so small you can't honestly believe that's a rationale to start exempting people from normal processes.

Things have changed drastically. One of the basic items in a clearance review is an FBI background. So what’s the point? Bad actors can be found at any level at any time in any clearance level. The continuous evaluation is more thorough than an FBI background all day and everyday of the week… seing how it’s one small little component in the clearance process.

 

[Blazers46]

Does nobody appreciate the massive volume of the populace does not trust these three letter agencies to honestly vet anyone? This is exactly why. Lax and others in a lather over a $59 rando campaign contribution as if she is beholden to Vlad forever obviously.

Let’s look at all donations of $59 or less and condemn said politicians for being linked to whatever actions that $59 or less was tied to. These guys are such fun losers.

 

[NorthDakota]

She literally took money from a Russian foreign agent who was arrested in 2022. She was the only politician that agent gave money to.

She received a political donation?

How is that a red flag?

 

[TorontoGold]

Checks & Imbalances: Gabbard’s Pro-Putin Patron, Russian Oligarch Indicted

Welcome to the latest issue of Checks & Imbalances, Forbes’ newsletter on money and politics. Today, we look at the political donations of a pro-Russia activist and a Russian businessperson.

www.forbes.com

Not to speak for Lax, but he may be referencing this when tying her to Russia.

 

[Blazers46]

Checks & Imbalances: Gabbard’s Pro-Putin Patron, Russian Oligarch Indicted

Welcome to the latest issue of Checks & Imbalances, Forbes’ newsletter on money and politics. Today, we look at the political donations of a pro-Russia activist and a Russian businessperson.

www.forbes.com

Not to speak for Lax, but he may be referencing this when tying her to Russia.

100% investigated and adjudicated.

 

[JadedDomer]

Checks & Imbalances: Gabbard’s Pro-Putin Patron, Russian Oligarch Indicted

Welcome to the latest issue of Checks & Imbalances, Forbes’ newsletter on money and politics. Today, we look at the political donations of a pro-Russia activist and a Russian businessperson.

www.forbes.com

Not to speak for Lax, but he may be referencing this when tying her to Russia.

So an American citizen who thinks Russia and the US should get along, and that NATO being advanced to surround Russia would lead to war (it did), donated to her?

That and a $59 political donation from someone else? LMAO.

Has there every been a politician in US history who denied a political donation?

 

[Blazers46]

So an American citizen who thinks Russia and the US should get along, and that NATO being advanced to surround Russia would lead to war (it did), donated to her?

That and a $59 political donation from someone else? LMAO.

Has there every been a politician in US history who denied a political donation?

These are the same people that think Hunter Biden is a great businessman and a modern day Pablo Picasso.

 

[Irish#1]

Tulsi Gabbard Explains Campaign Donation From 'Russian Agent' Elena Branson

Gabbard insisted that she had not known who Elena Branson was when her presidential campaign received the $59 payment.

www.newsweek.com

Definitely sounds like Branson was acting on behalf of the Russian government. I'm guessing if they dig further, they will find payments to many other politicians. Seriously doubt $59 dollars is going to buy you any influence.

Excerpt from the article.

Branson, a dual Russian-American national, has been accused of corresponding with President Vladimir Putin about how to promote Moscow's interests in the U.S.

She has been charged with purposely failing to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, conspiring to commit visa fraud and lying to the FBI.

Branson allegedly received funding from the Kremlin to run the Russian Center New York, which she founded in 2012. Prosecutors allege that she was involved in a wide-ranging influence and lobbying scheme with money and direction from the Russian government.

Branson told the FBI in September 2020 that she had never been asked by Moscow to coordinate meetings with U.S. officials. She left the U.S. for Russia shortly after the interview.

 

[IrishLax]

Why would you need to publicly release that you have been continuously vetted over and over and over for 20 plus years? This isn’t just something the DoD releases for public consumption. Lol. You’re a funny angry man.

Keep asking the wrong questions. Why would she be exempt from the process others follow? Why is she a special snowflake that should get to skip confirmation hearings and background checks that hundreds of other cabinet appointees have gone through?

Literally all I'm advocating for is that Tulsi Gabbard be treated with normal due diligence and that her confirmation should follow the standard constitutional process. This is making some people big mad because.....?