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Osu lineman transferring.....came from tedd ginn's Glenville program....urban has been ruining that relationship big time as it used to be a feeder school to osu
 

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Osu lineman transferring.....came from tedd ginn's Glenville program....urban has been ruining that relationship big time as it used to be a feeder school to osu

i feel like Ohio HS folks are gonna turn on Urbie soon if he keeps recruiting from the south and in their eyes "neglecting" local talent
 

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Oregon State graduate transfer WR says he's committed to Alabama

Details of Alabama DB's 'somewhat surprising' dismissal, what comes next

"Cook's mother, Melissa Cook, said her son "just had some issues outside of the field." She said it was not a legal matter, but declined to explain the specifics. The dismissal was "somewhat surprising," she said."

Counting two walkons given scholarships in January, Alabama is at eighty-six scholarships.

Mullaney from Oregon State will provide the Tide with some quality depth at WR, especially as C. Sims rehabs from his injury.

Cook took the first part of Roll Tide a little too literally, hence his departure.

As far as the two walk ons, I have already posted that their scholarships were for spring semester only. Unless something changes, as of now, Bama has 84 on scholarship. Or... maybe someone decides to move closer to home and both walk ons can keep their scholarships for the fall. It's all part of the Process.
 
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Osu lineman transferring.....came from tedd ginn's Glenville program....urban has been ruining that relationship big time as it used to be a feeder school to osu

I'm sorry to hear that. Not really.
 

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i feel like Ohio HS folks are gonna turn on Urbie soon if he keeps recruiting from the south and in their eyes "neglecting" local talent

he says all the right things at clinics and what not, so as long as he keeps winning he'll be able to get away with it.
 

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i feel like Ohio HS folks are gonna turn on Urbie soon if he keeps recruiting from the south and in their eyes "neglecting" local talent

I'm pretty sure that Ohio HS folks wouldn't turn on Satan himself as long as he was coaching OSU and winning.
 

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ACC - Scholarship Counts and Transfers

ACC - Scholarship Counts and Transfers

I'll cover three teams from the ACC:

Florida State - Sitting at 79 scholarship players. I was a bit surprised at their scholarship counts. They were at 80 scholarship players for 2014 despite signing a 2014 class of twenty-eight.
---Most their attrition has come from early entrants to the NFL draft, starting in 2013. Fourteen players have left early over those three years. Losses - FSU had thirteen seniors of that eighty in 2014, three transfers out, five early entrants, and one quit football.
---With twenty-two available scholarships, they signed a 2015 class of twenty and added Golson as the lone transfer in. Despite the number for the 2014, FSU has signed the same number of recruits over four years that ND has.
---Jimbo must be saving some scholarships for 2016 and a walkon. (The senior class in 2015 is only ten with eighteen verbals for 2016 already).

Clemson - Sitting at 83 scholarship players. Clemson was at eighty-two scholarship players with a PWO in 2014. Almost their entire 2015 class were verbals before the season began and included three greyshirts from the 2014 class. They lost twenty players to graduation and signed twenty-five.
---Prior to NSD, two players transferred, one retired due to injuries, two players decided not to return for their fifth year. One player was dismissed in November.
---Clemson would have been at eighty-four except one player was dismissed in May. Their graduating class will provide twelve scholarships for 2016 in addition to the two from 2015. Clemson has signed more players in the last four years (92) than FSU (89).

Miami - Sitting at 83 scholarship players - the same as in 2014. Four players have yet to enroll whether for academic reasons or something else - but are counted at this time. Gerald Willis, a transfer in from Florida, who had difficulties there, is not yet on the roster either. I have not counted him. Two walkons given scholarships in 2014 are counted in the scholarship numbers.
---Golden has signed one hundred and three players over the last four years, one hundred and tweny-three over the last five years. That includes a huge class of thirty-three in 2012, with was down to twenty-one for the 2014 season. Fifteen are left from that 2012 class for 2015.
---Golden needs to regenerate support for the program and win this year or he is out. For the Class of 2016, Miami reached twenty-five verbals but hs seen four decommitments this June (one committed to Michigan). Twelve seniors graduate this year. Miami has seen two transfers in to help compensate for three lost to attrition.
 
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Scholarship Counts for four of the Power 5 conferences so far

Scholarship Counts for four of the Power 5 conferences so far

The only change since posting each conference so far is Ohio State is down to eighty-five. Here are the counts to the best of my knowledge based on spring rosters, news reports and team sites.

Ohio State - 85
Michigan - 81
Penn State - 82
Northwestern - 85
USC- 74
Stanford - 80
Oregon - 82
UCLA - 82
TCU - 86
Tex - 80
Florida State - 79
Clemson - 83
Miami - 83

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SEC - Scholarship Counts and Transfers

SEC - Scholarship Counts and Transfers

I'll cover eleven schools from the SEC over the next few posts - four today.

Vanderbilt - Sitting at 84 scholarship players. I try to include a private university with the public universities both because their recruiting may be similar to ND's and also for comparison purposes to public universities in the conference. 2014 also saw Vandy at 84 scholarship players at the beginning of the season.
---Most of Vandy's attrition happened during the season (7) vs after Jan 1 (3). Their small senior class last year (9) plus those ten other scholarships allowed them to take a 2015 class of nineteen. Traditionally, all who sign qualify for enrollment.
Over the last four classes, they have signed 89 (110 over five yrs). All have enrolled.

South Carolina - Sitting at 83 scholarship players. USCe has a high attrition rate, more signed players who end up not qualifying and signs more JUCO players. Since the end of the '14 season, SC has had fourteen players leave the program, similar to the previous season. Seven players transferred out. One transferred in.
---Sixteen players graduated, which included five walkons who were given scholarships last year to get to seventy-eight. They signed a 2015 class of thirty to reach this year's total of 83 - but they may lose some to academic issues.
They've signed 97 in four years (129 in five) but enrolled 87 in four years (116 in five).

Missouri - Sitting at 85 scholarship players. MU lost five players to attrition since Jan 1 (three transfers, 1 early entrant to the draft, 1 dismissed). Last year MU was at seventy-eight scholarship players, had a grad class of twelve, and signed twenty-three, which attained one of their top class rankings (27) in recent history. Just after NSD, they were at eighty-six scholarships.
---DL U. has seen grad/attrition thin their depth there. But their OL is 14th in returning OL starts. Their offense was ninety-third in first downs per game in 2014.
MU has enrolled 87 in four years (103 in five yrs).

Notre Dame has enrolled 87 in four years (110 in five). The Irish's enrollment numbers are closest to Vandy's, Missouri's and South Carolina's in the SEC

Florida - Sitting at 80 scholarship players. Unlike the others above, Florida sits in a sweet spot for recruiting. While the 2015 recruiting class was not a great one, McElwain convinced ten recruits to sign with Florida from Feb 2-4th (NSD), saving the class. Seven of those ten were four or five stars! Three of those signees still are not on the roster, probably due to academics, and one transferred out.
---Florida's coaching staff has hit the ground running to make up for losses - 19 graduating seniors, five early entrants to the draft, one dismissal, one medical scholarship, three transfers out (including two QBs). Five players, including two QBs and two OL, have transferred in. Three of those five are graduate transfers, saving scholarships for the 2016 class.
---Florida was down to five healthy offensive linemen in the spring game and is ranked 126th in returning OL starts in CFB. Seven transfers in or out have occurred in May or June. Changes seem to be coming daily. Florida has fourteen commitments for 2016 so far (three four stars) with sixteen scholarships to give (11 seniors, five more if they stay at eighty).
--Over the last four years, Florida has enrolled 97 (113 in five).
 
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Enrollment Numbers - Comparisons

Enrollment Numbers - Comparisons

Most of the SEC teams I watch have quite higher Signing/Enrollment numbers than the thirteen non-SEC I previously detailed above in the four other Power 5 conferences. Enrollment is a more accurate indicator of impact on roster numbers. Only Ohio State and Miami have similar signing/enrollment numbers.

Ohio State has become very SEC-like under Meyer. While Tressel took a few more chances on players that ended up not being enrolled than Meyer does, Ohio State under Meyer has signed 99 (123 in five yrs) and enrolled 97 (121). (Alabama has signed 101(125) and enrolled 97(121) - the same as Ohio State over the same periods of time.

Miami's numbers - Signing 103(123 in five) and Enrolling 99(116) - are also very SEC-like.

UCLA's numbers - Signing 93(111) and Enrolling 99(111) are similar to LSU's, Texas A&M's and Miss State's.

Penn State under Franklin may swing towards SEC/Ohio State figures evidenced by two classes of twenty-five or may be a reflection of filing the roster after sanctions have been lifted. Their enrollment numbers are now 86 (102 over five yrs).

Three of the non-SEC teams - all of whom, in general, do not accept transfers - have four year enrollment figures in the seventies. Stanford - 73(93), Northwestern 77(94), and USC 71(91). USC's are due to the sanctions, of course. But, previously, USC's enrollment numbers never approached most SEC teams's numbers.

The other six teams - FSU, Clemson, Michigan, Oregon, TCU and Texas - have enrollment numbers similar to Notre Dame's. Competitively, two of those teams were in last year's Playoff and another just missed it. Arguably, those three teams had better years than all SEC teams except Alabama. Many if not most of those thirteen teams offer four year scholarships.

A final note, "Churn" with the acceptance of more JUCO players impacts the need to sign more players, which is more typical of many SEC teams.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UCLA QB Asiantii Woulard said he will transfer to USF</p>— Joe Schad (@schadjoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/schadjoe/status/615571904544534528">June 29, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Jacob Park Leaving One Crowded Race For Another?

"Former Bulldog quarterback Jacob Park announced yesterday that he's visiting Alabama and may sign with the Crimson Tide."

"Park has this option because of Mark Richt's unflinchingly generous transfer policy, which essentially allows players to transfer to any other school, including Georgia's most bitter rivals."
 

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John Adams: Everett Golson educates athletes on value of degree

"Degree in hand, he was able to transfer from one school to another without having to sit out a year. Just like that, he went from the Golden Dome to gold and garnet.

Other student-athletes should have been taking notes. And taking academics more seriously.

The value of a college degree has never been more apparent. Get your degree and get to be a free agent.
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John Adams: Everett Golson educates athletes on value of degree

"Degree in hand, he was able to transfer from one school to another without having to sit out a year. Just like that, he went from the Golden Dome to gold and garnet.

Other student-athletes should have been taking notes. And taking academics more seriously.

The value of a college degree has never been more apparent. Get your degree and get to be a free agent.
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he is attending the Harvard of the south
 

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SEC West - Scholarship Numbers and Transfers

SEC West - Scholarship Numbers and Transfers

I'll cover three SEC West teams today - LSU, Mississippi State and Texas A&M.

Of note, the SEC recruiting rules are working. Each of these three teams have enrolled 93 recruits (ave 23.25) over the last four classes. (ND has enrolled 87 - ave 21.75.) The Sign-and-Place recruits have been limited.

Also, the SEC enrollment numbers over four year periods have a few whose four year enrollment numbers are in the eighties (noted in some of the SEC East teams previously posted), another group at around ninety-three and the next group of schools around one hundred.

Texas A&M - Sitting at 83 scholarship players. This is in spite of a '13 signing class of thirty-two (thirty enrolled). That class - after attrition - enters 2015 at seventeen players. Because of that attrition, Sumlin gave three walkons scholarships in 2014. One player transferred in, another left with early entry to the draft, and one quit. Four JUCO players are part of the '15 class of twenty-six.
---Churn is also a consideration in that A&M recruits a high number of JUCO players - eleven over the last four classes. A&M had nine transfers in '14 and had another two in '15.
Texas A&M has enrolled 93 players in four years (112 in five).

LSU - Sitting at 82 scholarship players after Lealaimatafao's recent dismissal. Among those, I am counting three walkons given scholarships last year, one player who has academic issues, and three players from the '15 class who have not yet enrolled. One player from that class did not qualify for admission.
---Additionally, with pending legal issues for four more suspended players, scholarship numbers could be reduced. Only one player transferred out and only three entered the draft early. Ohterwise, LSU may well have scholarship numbers in the high seventies. Four of the '15 class had academic issues. On has been cleared and another went to JUCO. The other two, whom I have counted, still need clearance by the NCAA to enroll.
LSU has enrolled 93 players in four years (115 in five).

Mississippi State - Sitting at 83 scholarship players. This count includes three players from the '15 class who have not yet enrolled, needing clearance. MSU has had three transfers out and no transfers in.
---Four players from the '14 class did not qualify. Three players from the '13 and '12 classes combined did not qualify. -----Mullen does not usually give out scholarships to special team (K, P, LS) players. But he has a few walkons to whom he could give scholarships.
---Churn is higher for MSU with eleven JUCO players in the last four classes.
Mississippi State has enrolled 93 players in four years (114 in five).

Under the SEC recruiting rules, all players that sign - whether they enroll or not - are counted with scholarship limits of fifty over a rolling two year period. So many SEC teams like Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Alabama and Florida prefer to clear players academically prior to signing. Signing one player a year who may have clearance difficulties is more the norm.

Notre Dame has enrolled 87 players in four years (110 in five).

Next up - Alabama, Auburn, Georgia and Tennessee
 
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Most of the SEC teams I watch have quite higher Signing/Enrollment numbers than the thirteen non-SEC I previously detailed above in the four other Power 5 conferences. Enrollment is a more accurate indicator of impact on roster numbers. Only Ohio State and Miami have similar signing/enrollment numbers.

Ohio State has become very SEC-like under Meyer. While Tressel took a few more chances on players that ended up not being enrolled than Meyer does, Ohio State under Meyer has signed 99 (123 in five yrs) and enrolled 97 (121). (Alabama has signed 101(125) and enrolled 97(121) - the same as Ohio State over the same periods of time.

Miami's numbers - Signing 103(123 in five) and Enrolling 99(116) - are also very SEC-like.
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Notre Dame has enrolled 87 players in four years (110 in five). The Irish have had ten undergraduate transfers in five years, counting Tee Shepherd, Nile Sykes and Bo Wallace.

Four SEC teams have enrollment number totals over four years that are around one hundred.

Tennessee - 101 (127 in five yrs)
Georgia - 98 (122)
Alabama - 97 (121)
Florida - 97 (114)

Tenn has had nineteen transfers under Butch Jones with fifty-nine players enrolled from his last two recruiting classes. Georgia had some disciplinary problems resulting in dismissals. Florida under Muschamp saw sixteen transfers. (Only undergraduate transfers are counted.)

Each of these three SEC East teams had a one-time class of thirty or more to compensate for previous year's attrition. Florida '13 - 30 enrollees. Georgia '13 - 32 enrollees. Tenn '14 - 32 enrollees. (The SEC allows for classes greater than 25 if teams would not have eighty-five scholarship roster players otherwise - and if teams can count early enrollees from that class to count backwards to the previous class.)

Texas A&M is the only other SEC team with a class of thirty or more in the last five years - 30 enrollees in '13. Miami had a '13 enrollment class of thirty-two boosting their numbers. Alabama's highest class numbers of enrollees is twenty-five.

Subtracting the highest class over the last five years to get a feel for a team's average outside of that one time jump produces:
Alabama (SEC) - 96
Ohio State (B10) - 96
Tennessee(SEC) - 95

Subtracting ND's highest class, Notre Dame has had 86 players enroll.

Georgia (SEC) - 90
Florida (SEC) - 84
Miami (ACC) - 84
Texas A&M (SEC) - 82

Clearly, the top three teams have separated themselves out from the others by their recruiting behavior. The other four can bear watching, but are not as consistent with their total numbers jumping due to one time action.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LSU?src=hash">#LSU</a> wide receiver Avery Johnson announced on his Facebook page tonight he was transferring to another school to continue his career.</p>— Will Weathers (@WillWeathersBR) <a href="https://twitter.com/WillWeathersBR/status/617883028954710016">July 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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SEC - Scholarship Numbers and Transfers - four more schools

SEC - Scholarship Numbers and Transfers - four more schools

I'll conclude the SEC analysis with four teams - Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn and Alabama. All have similar enrollment figures over four (five) year periods.

Georgia - Sitting at eighty-five scholarships. Georgia sat at eighty-seven after a '15 class of twenty-seven. In June, movement was, in part, triggered when Greyson Lambert transferred in, but, perhaps, by the end of the semester, too. Jacob Park transferred out. Another transferrred out. One player quit. After a five month period in '14 when players were dismissed after arrests, the Bulldogs have once again reached the stability that has marked Richt's tenure.
-- With a senior class of twenty, the expectation is that Georgia will have a '16 class of twenty-five.
Georgia has enrolled 98 players in four years (122 in five).

Tennessee - Sitting at eighty-three scholarship players with two blueshirt players from the '15 class. After enrolling fifty-nine recruits in the last two classes, would you believe Tennessee is at eighty-three?
-- Butch Jones has really trimmed his roster down, while awarding walkons scholarships in '14 and one for '15. He believes in making roster moves prior to NSD with ten transfers since the end of the season and only two transfers after NSD, which got the Vols to eighty-three. He can now give the blueshirts a scholarship, if he wants. One player was dismissed in December.
-- With a Senior class of sixteen, the '16 class is expected to be in the twenty-twenty-two area.
Tennessee has enrolled 101 recruits in four years (127 in five). Only one player signed in five years did not enroll due to academics.

Auburn - Sitting at eighty-three scholarship players. Auburn has had eight transfers since Jan 1. Two players elected early entry to the NFL. One player was dismissed. One player did not qualify. One was not on the spring roster (no reason). Two players transferred in and are counted with the '15 class.
---The secondary saw five of the transfers and is thin, but was partly addressed with the addition of Blake Countess. Jamel Dean will be eligible next year.
---Unlike Tenn and Georgia, Auburn rarely awards scholarships to P/K/LS.
-- Auburn is expected to recruit twenty to twenty-two players in the '16 class. They have fifteen seniors.
Auburn has enrolled ninety-three players in four years (117 in five), which are more in line with LSU, Mississippi State, Texas A&M than the other three schools in this post.

Alabama - Sitting at eighty-five. As sure as the sun comes up, everyone expects Alabama to max out with another full class of twenty-five.
---Saban's scholarship count would have been pressed if he had had Alabama's usual amount of EEs. In 2014, Alabama had thirteen seniors of whom nine were fifth years.
---Arrests, suspensions and dismissals dominated the Alabama football news in the offseason. He gave two walkons scholarships which Bama fans expect to be pulled prior to the fall roster coming out.
---Their '15 class is now at twenty-two with one player who did not qualify and another dismissed. It also contains a greyshirt and a walkon LS. With only three early entrants, Bama was able to reach eighty-five early.
---Alabama has a senior class of seventeen. Bama is expected to have another class of twenty-four-twenty-five. What happens if Saban is able to cut down on arrests/dismissals and there are more early entrants is problematic only to those of us outside of Alabama - and to the players.
Alabama has enrolled ninety-seven players in four years (121 in five).

To conclude, there a lots of factors involved in SEC roster movement and recruiting. Different programs and different coaching styles and recruiting behaviors affect transfers and scholarship counts in each of these.

While Tennessee (and Ohio State) are challengers for the crown, in the end, Alabama emerges above everyone else.
 

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QB Vernon Adams, who was expected to transfer to Oregon for the 2015 season, did not graduate from Eastern Washington this spring.

As Oregon beat writer Andrew Greif puts it, Adams "did not meet Eastern Washington's graduation standards after the spring academic quarter" and this news "throws his plan to play football for Oregon this fall in flux." Greif adds Adams walked during EWU's graduation but still needed to complete an academic course. Right now nothing is really known regarding Adams' future with Oregon, but this should scare Ducks' fans. Adams was expected to compete for the school's starting quarterback job.
 

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QB Vernon Adams, who was expected to transfer to Oregon for the 2015 season, did not graduate from Eastern Washington this spring.

As Oregon beat writer Andrew Greif puts it, Adams "did not meet Eastern Washington's graduation standards after the spring academic quarter" and this news "throws his plan to play football for Oregon this fall in flux." Greif adds Adams walked during EWU's graduation but still needed to complete an academic course. Right now nothing is really known regarding Adams' future with Oregon, but this should scare Ducks' fans. Adams was expected to compete for the school's starting quarterback job.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Re: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Oregon?src=hash">#Oregon</a> grad transfer: I'm told by a source close to Vernon Adams he is finishing up a math class in the next week or so as was planned.</p>— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/619212940370165760">July 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LSU?src=hash">#LSU</a> wide receiver Avery Johnson announced on his Facebook page tonight he was transferring to another school to continue his career.</p>— Will Weathers (@WillWeathersBR) <a href="https://twitter.com/WillWeathersBR/status/617883028954710016">July 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Someone should tell Johnson it's not a career until he starts earning a living doing it.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LSU?src=hash">#LSU</a> wide receiver Avery Johnson announced on his Facebook page tonight he was transferring to another school to continue his career.</p>— Will Weathers (@WillWeathersBR) <a href="https://twitter.com/WillWeathersBR/status/617883028954710016">July 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Johnson or Peterson?

Receiver Avery Peterson, brother of former LSU All-American Patrick Peterson, on leaving football team: 'It really breaks my heart' (July 7, 2015)

Report: LSU WR Avery Johnson Will Transfer (July 6, 2015)

I was confused, until I read:
LSU football rumors: Avery Peterson to transfer "Peterson, who also goes by the last name Johnson, is the younger brother of LSU football star and NFL Pro Bowl cornerback Patrick Peterson." (article also has the Twitter above)

Of course, another Avery Johnson also transferred in the same 1-2 day period. This did not help at all...
Avery Johnson Jr. transfers to Alabama, will play for dad ("Former Texas A&M point guard AVERY JOHNSON Jr. will play for his father at Alabama.") (July 7, 2015)
 
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Receiver Avery Peterson, brother of former LSU All-American Patrick Peterson, on leaving football team: 'It really breaks my heart' (July 7, 2015)

Report: LSU WR Avery Johnson Will Transfer (July 6, 2015)

I was confused, until I read:
LSU football rumors: Avery Peterson to transfer "Peterson, who also goes by the last name Johnson, is the younger brother of LSU football star and NFL Pro Bowl cornerback Patrick Peterson." (article also has the Twitter above)

Of course, another Avery Johnson also transferred in the same 1-2 day period. This did not help at all...
Avery Johnson Jr. transfers to Alabama, will play for dad ("Former Texas A&M point guard AVERY JOHNSON Jr. will play for his father at Alabama.") (July 7, 2015)

If everyone would just limit it to a couple of names . . .
 
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