Tommy Rees - Offensive Coordinator

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The fact that the main complaint here is still play calling is baffling. Literally everything else was worse last night than the play calls. Development, game prep, recruitment all of it of Pyne are more valid complaints. WRs were running wide open since the second drive of the game.
 

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If you want to beat Notre Dame this is the perfect game film. Stanford kept Mayer and our running game in check. Mayer did not play a bad game.

I think its time for Freeman to have a mid year review with Rees.
Why do people keep saying Stanford kept our run game in check? They didn't. We ran for 4.4ypc and yet Tommy decided not to lean on that.

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The fact that the main complaint here is still play calling is baffling. Literally everything else was worse last night than the play calls. Development, game prep, recruitment all of it of Pyne are more valid complaints. WRs were running wide open since the second drive of the game.
Someone from the ND staff needs to go to Grainger and pick up more moxie ASAP!
 

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In all honesty, he'd prolly be a QB coach at a MAC school right now.

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This is probably the right answer, but I think he’d be crunching numbers in spreadsheets at Deloitte. He’s an egghead but has no interest in leading or developing people outside of revealing his Ark of the Covenant offense. At a MAC school I like to think he would be fired for not having the ability to teach & develop without his pedigree acting as Kevlar. Plus the white collar world would allow him to golf as much as he damn well pleases.
 

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The overall big picture issue can't be solved this season. It is solved via recruiting. Certain people no longer with the program saw this season coming. I am convinced of that. They are void of playmakers on offense outside of a tight end and their defense is average to above average without playmakers as well. The receiver situation should never have come to this point and the two people responsible for that are gone. Rees is still here and it is incumbent upon him to bring in the highest level of talent he can come February to help fix what we're seeing in terms of the talent gap. There is one.

They're doing a very good job recruiting. A few setbacks, obviously, but the overall work is getting done and they're putting together a very good class with months to go to finish it out. I don't know if Rees should or should not be around to see it come to fruition, but what I do know is they need to be better at QB to ever have hope of winning a title again in any of our lifetimes.

The lack of preparation for the three home games has been a very glaring issue to me now. I don't know what the issue is but they looked horrible against Marshall and Stanford while surviving a Hail Mary against Cal. That needs fixing, and that falls on Freeman.

Other DCs need to take Mayer away. UNC and BYU didn't do that. Stanford did. Rees has to figure this out.
 

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I said it before, I'll say it again -- Rees is trying to play 4D chess when all he has to do is play checkers. His incessant need to be "the smartest coordinator in the room" has been his (and this team's) undoing all season. Feels like he's more interested in impressing potential NFL suitors than running an efficient college offense. He needs to go, and like yesterday. I genuinely feel bad for Freeman. Obviously he wasn't going to turn down the job, but the Rees caveat is becoming his undoing.
Kind of a tragic tale—his whole identity is pegged to being a football savant, coach’s son, etc, but in reality the anointed one just doesn’t have the skills to get out of his own head and do the damn job. Every step he’s taken has been to avoid being a ‘normal’ person that his frame and talent suggest, but as they say we often find our destiny on the path we take to avoid it. In this case his obsession with being so unfathomably ‘smarter’ than everyone else in contempt of natural talent, measurables, and strength has left him looking like Joe Shmo in that role.
 

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The overall big picture issue can't be solved this season. It is solved via recruiting. Certain people no longer with the program saw this season coming. I am convinced of that. They are void of playmakers on offense outside of a tight end and their defense is average to above average without playmakers as well. The receiver situation should never have come to this point and the two people responsible for that are gone. Rees is still here and it is incumbent upon him to bring in the highest level of talent he can come February to help fix what we're seeing in terms of the talent gap. There is one.

They're doing a very good job recruiting. A few setbacks, obviously, but the overall work is getting done and they're putting together a very good class with months to go to finish it out. I don't know if Rees should or should not be around to see it come to fruition, but what I do know is they need to be better at QB to ever have hope of winning a title again in any of our lifetimes.

The lack of preparation for the three home games has been a very glaring issue to me now. I don't know what the issue is but they looked horrible against Marshall and Stanford while surviving a Hail Mary against Cal. That needs fixing, and that falls on Freeman.

Other DCs need to take Mayer away. UNC and BYU didn't do that. Stanford did. Rees has to figure this out.
Other than the OSU loss, all of our losses have been to teams with far less talent than we have. Stanford was giving up 30+ points a game, except to us. Teams with far less talent than us scored at will vs. Stanford.

Recruiting might explain why we can't win a title, it doesn't explain losing to Marshall or Stanford. Or being lucky to beat Cal.
 

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No, according to MF, he did “an excellent job.” Getting a raise soon, I imagine.
I’m more interested in what MF says and does behind closed doors than to the press. Publicly throwing his OC under the bus would only elevate the crisis and invite more vultures/distractions this program doesn’t need.
 

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Other than the OSU loss, all of our losses have been to teams with far less talent than we have. Stanford was giving up 30+ points a game, except to us. Teams with far less talent than us scored at will vs. Stanford.

Recruiting might explain why we can't win a title, it doesn't explain losing to Marshall or Stanford. Or being lucky to beat Cal.
This year, they have not played well at home, win or lose.

In the grand scheme of things, they need more playmakers on both sides of the ball wherever they play and whoever they play.
 

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It took a chant from the student section to can BVG. The same thing may need to happen this week.
 

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The overall big picture issue can't be solved this season. It is solved via recruiting. Certain people no longer with the program saw this season coming. I am convinced of that. They are void of playmakers on offense outside of a tight end and their defense is average to above average without playmakers as well. The receiver situation should never have come to this point and the two people responsible for that are gone. Rees is still here and it is incumbent upon him to bring in the highest level of talent he can come February to help fix what we're seeing in terms of the talent gap. There is one.

They're doing a very good job recruiting. A few setbacks, obviously, but the overall work is getting done and they're putting together a very good class with months to go to finish it out. I don't know if Rees should or should not be around to see it come to fruition, but what I do know is they need to be better at QB to ever have hope of winning a title again in any of our lifetimes.

The lack of preparation for the three home games has been a very glaring issue to me now. I don't know what the issue is but they looked horrible against Marshall and Stanford while surviving a Hail Mary against Cal. That needs fixing, and that falls on Freeman.

Other DCs need to take Mayer away. UNC and BYU didn't do that. Stanford did. Rees has to figure this out.

We need an offensive coordinator. Rees is not the answer. There is enough talent on the offense that it shouldn't be an embarrassment.
 

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We need an offensive coordinator. Rees is not the answer. There is enough talent on the offense that it shouldn't be an embarrassment.
Maybe he isn't, but the fact is they have how many scholarship receivers?

And hiring Brian Hartline, who has never called plays for example, is only going to disappoint some of you guys. I can tell you that right now. It's easy to recruit and eat cake in the living room. Coordinating an offense and calling plays on the big stage is a whole new ball game. Brian Hartline is a good recruiter. Apart from that, his offensive accumen is totally unknown and is a serious gamble.

Rees knows what he has and what he sees in practice. He's gotta call what he thinks will work based on that. I was perplexed last night at times myself but at the end of the day your best player is a tight end. Few other teams in America can say that.

Rees has to be better and that starts with him brining in better talent. If he can't do that, he needs to go. I don't know if Ruggiero or Tom Herman would have been able to close some of the QB recruits in this class under the same circumstances, but maybe play the cards differently? Sure
 

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Maybe he isn't, but the fact is they have how many scholarship receivers?

And hiring Brian Hartline, who has never called plays for example, is only going to disappoint some of you guys. I can tell you that right now. It's easy to recruit and eat cake in the living room. Coordinating an offense and calling plays on the big stage is a whole new ball game. Brian Hartline is a good recruiter. Apart from that, his offensive accumen is totally unknown and is a serious gamble.

Rees knows what he has and what he sees in practice. He's gotta call what he thinks will work based on that. I was perplexed last night at times myself but at the end of the day your best player is a tight end. Few other teams in America can say that.

Rees has to be better and that starts with him brining in better talent. If he can't do that, he needs to go. I don't know if Ruggiero or Tom Herman would have been able to close some of the QB recruits in this class under the same circumstances, but maybe play the cards differently? Sure

You don't run an end around on 4th and 2 on the 2 with without spreading everyone out. That play was a fail from the beginning. We don't run any quick slants. There was a few plays that the WR's were open but Pyne missed them. Pyne's development is on Rees he is the QB coach.

I think hiring Hartline would be a huge mistake as well. You can't have a head coach the is struggling to prepare his team and add a first time OC. The would ruin the ND football.

I read on ISD that all the starters on offense but 1 are 4 stars. That is more than enough talent. You could take a handful of OC's across the country and they would love to have this talent. And it was Stanford. They are awful, just like Marshall and Cal. This is on Rees.
 

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You don't run an end around on 4th and 2 on the 2 with without spreading everyone out. That play was a fail from the beginning. We don't run any quick slants. There was a few plays that the WR's were open but Pyne missed them. Pyne's development is on Rees he is the QB coach.

I think hiring Hartline would be a huge mistake as well. You can't have a head coach the is struggling to prepare his team and add a first time OC. The would ruin the ND football.

I read on ISD that all the starters on offense but 1 are 4 stars. That is more than enough talent. You could take a handful of OC's across the country and they would love to have this talent. And it was Stanford. They are awful, just like Marshall and Cal. This is on Rees.
That play was a touchdown if the receiver sticks his foot in the ground and cuts it upfield. The hole was there.

Now, should the ball have been in that guys hands on that call? Probably not.

Good play in theory, bad call given the choice of personnel running it.
 

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We need an offensive coordinator. Rees is not the answer. There is enough talent on the offense that it shouldn't be an embarrassment.
There is enough talent on the offense except at the position that is by far the most important position on the offense, where we're starting a guy who probably shouldn't be a P5 starting quarterback, and at probably the second most important position, at least in terms of being able to score in a hurry, where we have like four actual football players (where on earth is Colzie?). We're loaded at OL, TE and RB but that's not enough.

Our offense is just so limited right now. And there's no easy in-season fix to that.
 

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There is enough talent on the offense except at the position that is by far the most important position on the offense, where we're starting a guy who probably shouldn't be a P5 starting quarterback, and at probably the second most important position, at least in terms of being able to score in a hurry, where we have like four actual football players (where on earth is Colzie?). We're loaded at OL, TE and RB but that's not enough.

Our offense is just so limited right now. And there's no easy in-season fix to that.

I don't disagree with you but there are handful of OC's in the country that wish they had the talent we do and there OC's doing a lot more with less talent than we do.

But again the QB position falls under Rees and he has failed to develop any of them. When Pyne only looks to throw to Mayer it's easy to defend. I an not a Lenzy fan but he was open a few time last night and was never looked at.

Tommy Rees is our problem on offense.
 

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1-5 FCS Colgate rushed for more yards against Stanford than we did. Wow lol.

Pyne is bad but he isn't the main problem. And Rees is responsible for recruiting/developing Pyne.
 

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Maybe we should chill. Once Rees is here for his second year maybe we will have good times.

Good times

 

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Good for Driskell.
What was Built Bars Man to do to have any credibility???? Every show was about how bad of a HC BK was and what an Offensive genius Rees is. He banned good people who paid $50 to be on his stupid boards and then banned them and ridiculed people who questioned his sound analysis.

That is what you call the definition of a Soup Nazi Tool. Create a message board, take $50 from decent fans but then ban and ridicule dissenters. Now The Chickens Have Come Home to Roost.
 

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But ironically, on the other side, there are more than enough blockers for everyone. Like if you just hand it off to your RB it's an easy first down and probably easy TD. #FireTommy
It really was a terrible play call/read. Not sure if Pyne had the option to give to Estime up the middle there but if he does, he probably bulls over that middle linebacker to at least get the first down. Even given the decision to run the jet sweep, if Thomas turns upfield after he cleared the DE, he did have a lane and probably falls forward to the first down line, but instead he kept stringing it out into the bad numbers on the outside. And of course Thomas is not a running back.

Those who say Tommy is too clever for his own good too much of the time have a point.
 

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The 4th and 2 end around was terrible.

So was Pyne with a clean pocket. I don't know how much of Pyne's lack of execution is on Rees considering how good he looked the previous two games. He was horrible yesterday.

I don't know where it starts and stops with Rees when it comes to that. They squeezed every ounce of talent out of Ian Book they possibly could have.
 

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The 4th and 2 end around was terrible.

So was Pyne with a clean pocket. I don't know how much of Pyne's lack of execution is on Rees considering how good he looked the previous two games. He was horrible yesterday.

I don't know where it starts and stops with Rees when it comes to that. They squeezed every ounce of talent out of Ian Book they possibly could have.

Some bad play calls, but ask yourself (not you specifically), how does this team look with a Coan like quarterback at QB? A slightly above average QB that is going to pick you a part if given time would have had us winning easy last night with everything else the same. To me that’s that’s where Rees deserves blame on two parts- A) a good OC will tailor his plan for his players, and B) if that plan won’t be tailored for the players, why doesn’t the team have that key player that is needed.
 
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