Tommy Rees and Carlo Calabrese arrested

[Walter White]

I doubt it was even a true kegger. Goody and his roommates always keep it chill.

Who are his roommates? Are they football players also?

 

[returnofthemack]

Can someone closer to South Bend explain something to me, why were the cops even chasing somebody that was running from a house party??? I've been to a few parties that have been broken up by the cops and have ran from the site myself but was never chased by the police. Thanks, just trying to understand what's really going on.

If it's normal students, they often don't chase. But they knew it was a football player house. When there are high-profile students, they go all out, as anybody who has been at a hockey house bust knows.

 

[Grahambo]

Before yall jump the gun here, I am a stone's throw (literally) from where ESPN is grappling for anything they can feed Mark May, and Tommy is still in jail and NEITHER boy has been charged yet. After 48 hrs if no charges exist Tommy will be let out. However, the incident is still being investigated so he's being held on suspicion (read that again) of a felony charge.

My own personal opinion on the matter being on the law enforcement side is I doubt they charge him with a felony, which is why it's taking so long. They would have to have enough evidence to convict him of bodily injury to the officer which, if it's just a knee to the stomach, despite the wind being taking out of the officer, hard to prove, almost impossible unless there is damage to prove it.

They could charge him with a Class B Misdemeanor which could be anywhere from 30 days to 6 months in jail if convicted. All the other charges, to include Carlo's, are really irrelevant IMO.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Prior to the 1988 national championship season, Lou Holtz made a video entitled "Do Right" in which he talked about the one guarantee he could always make — as far back as his first year in Arkansas in 1977 — is that a football team will face three crises (at least) before a season even begins.

So far we have Aaron Lynch and now the black eye from the Rees/Calabrese arrests. Some might contend that Deontay Greenberry changing his mind at the 11th hour of signing day or Tee Shepard leaving school prior to spring practice also might qualify, but my belief is you actually need to practice or have played for the team to qualify.

In any case, the reason I posted this is because I always see other posts about "why does this always happen?" etc. It happens because what Holtz said is generally true when you are dealing with 85-100 young men between the ages of 18 to 22. It can take different forms, be it arrests, suspensions and even great tragedy you can't control occur in this world. Name a season, any season, and chances are you can dig up some of these even when such things weren't publicized to protect the University

From Lou at BGI.

 

[returnofthemack]

Apparently the neighbors signed a petition. Swim team had no choice but to cancel it. Sucks cause we didn't even get our money back

Really? There were plenty of times when I saw guys from the swim team give food to the kids at the children's home next door. And the rest of the houses were swim team guys too, right? Damn that sucks. Especially with all the kegs they bought - I hope they were able to return them. Also, why wouldn't they just tell the swim team instead of getting the cops involved?

 

[returnofthemack]

Who are his roommates? Are they football players also?

He lives with Brandon Newman and two non-athletes. All great kids who almost never get in trouble and are the most polite people you'll ever meet. In fact, I don't know about Brandon, but the other two roommates don't even drink most of the time.

 

[NDBoiler]

Prior to the 1988 national championship season, Lou Holtz made a video entitled "Do Right" in which he talked about the one guarantee he could always make — as far back as his first year in Arkansas in 1977 — is that a football team will face three crises (at least) before a season even begins.

So far we have Aaron Lynch and now the black eye from the Rees/Calabrese arrests. Some might contend that Deontay Greenberry changing his mind at the 11th hour of signing day or Tee Shepard leaving school prior to spring practice also might qualify, but my belief is you actually need to practice or have played for the team to qualify.

In any case, the reason I posted this is because I always see other posts about "why does this always happen?" etc. It happens because what Holtz said is generally true when you are dealing with 85-100 young men between the ages of 18 to 22. It can take different forms, be it arrests, suspensions and even great tragedy you can't control occur in this world. Name a season, any season, and chances are you can dig up some of these even when such things weren't publicized to protect the University

From Lou at BGI.

Well put, thanks for the insight.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

First off, I have no idea why the quote thing above us is screwing around, not cool because I'm not smart enough for pre-med. LOL

Thirdly, Since I'm a federal officer, I'd be doing the arresting. LOL ;-)

LMAO reps

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Also for all you Golson lovers out there, I heard that it was most likely a race between Hendrix and Rees at this point. Golson is struggling to pick up the playbook and will likely only come in on special packages. FWIW

This is most probably more bullshiit to go with todays wild happenings, (media and fans).


We know this, Rees ran. The police man could have fallen on his bent knee. Rees was badly pepper sprayed. Then we have KissMe, one of the most brilliant minds on this site, (and Grahambo backing her up with his technical accumen), who both stated an obviously all-star idea. If they have the evidence to convict, they will charge the felony. If they don't they will drop it down. If they drop it down all the anti-coppers logic wins the day.

Oh, and about why the Golson comment is bullshiit, I watched the reads that Everett made. Most were pretty good, and the bevy of plays he ran were as varried as anyone.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherm Sticky

First off, I have no idea why the quote thing above us is screwing around, not cool because I'm not smart enough for pre-med. LOL

Thirdly, Since I'm a federal officer, I'd be doing the arresting. LOL ;-)

LMAO reps

Someone screwed the pooch. I fixed it for me if you will notice back a few posts. (Number 435)

Grahambo you and sherm, I don't know. You guys playing cops and robbers; did you show him your hand cuffs?

 

[ThePiombino]

My own personal opinion on the matter being on the law enforcement side is I doubt they charge him with a felony, which is why it's taking so long. They would have to have enough evidence to convict him of bodily injury to the officer which, if it's just a knee to the stomach, despite the wind being taking out of the officer, hard to prove, almost impossible unless there is damage to prove it.

They could charge him with a Class B Misdemeanor which could be anywhere from 30 days to 6 months in jail if convicted. All the other charges, to include Carlo's, are really irrelevant IMO.

Hey, one thing still isn't clear to me. Are you some sort of officer of the law? I wanna say yes, but I'm not sure. Maybe you can post that a few more times in this thread just in case anyone missed it the first 5 times you may or may not have mentioned it.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Are you some sort of officer of the law?

"I AM THE LAW!"

 

[phork]

I have not seen 1 post with the correct story posted in this thread so I feel that some should take a deep breath and go about your day.

Since it was deleted the first time, I'll do it again.

buzz buzz?

 

[returnofthemack]

Hey, one thing still isn't clear to me. Are you some sort of officer of the law? I wanna say yes, but I'm not sure. Maybe you can post that a few more times in this thread just in case anyone missed it the first 5 times you may or may not have mentioned it.

Grahambo, please don't say you're Excise Police.

 

[MNIrish14]

Oh, and about why the Golson comment is bullshiit, I watched the reads that Everett made. Most were pretty good, and the bevy of plays he ran were as varried as anyone.

That's cool man, believe what you want. Just passing along what I heard from someone who's seen him throw all spring practice

 

[irishog77]

Hey Hoggy ne Gael!

I think you missed both points:

Number one; if they hit you square in the face with pepper spray it is because you are coming at 'em, squared off, or possibly cornered and not smart enough to duck and cover.

Roman numeral two; If they hit you square in the face with pepper spray like his booking photo clearly shows, (look how swolen that side of his face is, heck, his eyes are crooked), then you are a massively better man than I, or absolutely out of your fukkin' mind. Of course if you are a meth head, all bets are off.

I am just sayin' I have never seen anybody not subdued immediately by pepper spray. In fact, as I can remember bathing for a couple of days was a beatch, and most people that are sprayed spend as much time getting small and quiet inside to find a hole to bury themselves in.

Well, I'm quite sure I didn't miss the point because I'm the one that brought it up. I don't usually confuse my own premises. :smilewink

From the reports I've seen, it seems like Rees was sprayed AFTER he was on the ground. He may or may not have deserved the spray (I truly don't know). If, though, he was one-on-one (for lack of a better term) with a cop, and then got sprayed in that scenario, then his natural reaction is to start gyrating/flailing/yelling. To further gig him for said gyrating/flailing/yelling seems unfair. If he was one-on-two/three/four and then was sprayed, then I think that it may be fair to question his spraying altogether if he was outnumbered like that. And any ensuing gyrating/flailing/yelling could still be unfair to gig him for.

As I said, if the prosecutor looks at all actions pre spraying, then fine. If he looks at actions post spraying, then he may open a can of worms he wish he hadn't.

And as I said in an earlier post (and what I thought when first read the story at 7am on ESPN), I think the felony aspect of his charges will be dropped. That's my main concern here. Sh!tty QB or not, that could severely screw up his future. And this doesn't seem like a case where something like that needs to happen.

 

[peoriairish]

ppl on the team...

And Grubl has infiltrated the IE boards...

 

[Grahambo]

Grahambo, please don't say you're Excise Police.

I have no idea who they are. I literally thought the OP who wrote that meant excess police.

 

[micks60]

ppl on the team...

I have heard different from people on the team sooooo.....

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Hey, one thing still isn't clear to me. Are you some sort of officer of the law? I wanna say yes, but I'm not sure. Maybe you can post that a few more times in this thread just in case anyone missed it the first 5 times you may or may not have mentioned it.

Don't be a douche.

 

[Grahambo]

Hey, one thing still isn't clear to me. Are you some sort of officer of the law? I wanna say yes, but I'm not sure. Maybe you can post that a few more times in this thread just in case anyone missed it the first 5 times you may or may not have mentioned it.

 

[ThePiombino]

Don't be a douche.

Fair enough.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Well, I'm quite sure I didn't miss the point because I'm the one that brought it up. I don't usually confuse my own premises. :smilewink

From the reports I've seen, it seems like Rees was sprayed AFTER he was on the ground. He may or may not have deserved the spray (I truly don't know). If, though, he was one-on-one (for lack of a better term) with a cop, and then got sprayed in that scenario, then his natural reaction is to start gyrating/flailing/yelling. To further gig him for said gyrating/flailing/yelling seems unfair. If he was one-on-two/three/four and then was sprayed, then I think that it may be fair to question his spraying altogether if he was outnumbered like that. And any ensuing gyrating/flailing/yelling could still be unfair to gig him for.

As I said, if the prosecutor looks at all actions pre spraying, then fine. If he looks at actions post spraying, then he may open a can of worms he wish he hadn't.

And as I said in an earlier post (and what I thought when first read the story at 7am on ESPN), I think the felony aspect of his charges will be droppedThat's my main concern here. Sh!tty QB or not, that could severely screw up his future. And this doesn't seem like a case where something like that needs to happen.

Then I guess we are making the same point with different words, something just doesn't add up here . . .

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogtrotter07
Don't be a douche.

Fair enough.

Not that you really were . . .

 

[Grahambo]

Someone screwed the pooch. I fixed it for me if you will notice back a few posts. (Number 435)

Grahambo you and sherm, I don't know. You guys playing cops and robbers; did you show him your hand cuffs?

 

[returnofthemack]

I have no idea who they are. I literally thought the OP who wrote that meant excess police.

Good. Excise police are called in for game days and on the big ND party nights (end of semester, after big games, etc.) and they are sadistic individuals that give a bad name to police everywhere. They deal solely in alcohol offenses, meaning they troll the area surrounding ND for underage drinkers. They arrest first and ask questions much, much later.

 

[Grahambo]

Mary Kate Malone ‏ @MaloneMK

SJC police: Charges have been filed against Rees -- not clear whether felony or misdemeanor -- he will be bonding out of jail shortly.

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

I'd also like to add that about 7 yrs ago there was a little hole in the wall in Granger here called the Sports Page. Great place to be, loud music, cheap drinks, heavy handed bar tenders...anyway one night we were down there and a few basketball players were too celebrating a birthday (they were 21 as everyone had to be who walked in the door). My friend walked past a group of men who were congregated around the bathroom, and one man slapped her on the butt. She turned around and pushed him, and he shoved her back. One of the players (who was pretty well known) stood up, and told the guys to knock it off. We decided to leave, those basketball players walked us to our vehicle (we had a DD don't worry) and here come the *** slappers starting crap with the bball players who were trying to walk away. Cops were called, the car window was busted on my sober friends car, and when the cops got there, they separated us, grabbed one of the players by the back of the neck and slammed him onto the trunk of the squad car and cuffed him. After an hour of telling the cops what really happened they finally let the athletes go, and nothing happened to the *** slappers. The police here LOVE them an opportunity to slam a ND athlete. They LOVE LOVE LOVE it. Because South Bend hates ND.

 

[Grahambo]

Good. Excise police are called in for game days and on the big ND party nights (end of semester, after big games, etc.) and they are sadistic individuals that give a bad name to police everywhere. They deal solely in alcohol offenses, meaning they troll the area surrounding ND for underage drinkers. They arrest first and ask questions much, much later.

Sounds like "fake" cops to be honest. For the record, I tried to wiki Excise Police to learn who they are and I guess they are also law enforcement in Hungary:

"Law enforcement in Hungary is split among the Police and Border Guards, and the Customs and Excise Authority."

Law enforcement in Hungary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Oh, Bay-bay!

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And I think in Indiana as opposed to Michigan, Ohio, or IL, the State has used the legal authority from taxing to extend the police presence into homes. Must come out of the prohibition and rum-running days or some such, and cheap booze from Cook County may have had a lot to do with it.

 

[CraigKrenzel]

RT @angdicarlowndu: Breaking News: Tommy Rees charged with all misdeameanors. Felony charge was reduced.

Shock of the century.