Tommy Rees and Carlo Calabrese arrested

Whiskeyjack

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I am not a huge fan of the prorities of the South Bend PD either, but if the report in this video are accurate, then it appears to be Rees' fault and the officer's actions don't sound surprising.

MIDDAY UPDATE: Notre Dame players arrested -- southbendtribune.com

Looks like a cameo by John Goodman.

Poor John. He shouldn't have even opened the door when he saw a reporter on his doorstep. At least he did the right thing in not commenting, though he came off poorly in the process.
 
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Poor John. He shouldn't have even opened the door when he was a reporter on his doorstep. At least he did the right thing is not commenting, though he came off poorly in the process.

disagree that he came across poorly. Like I said, if someone knocks on my door and sticks a microphone in my face under those circumstances, they aren't going to be able to air any of it. They still shouldn't have aired it because it added absolutely nothing to the "report".
 

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disagree that he came across poorly. Like I said, if someone knocks on my door and sticks a microphone in my face under those circumstances, they aren't going to be able to air any of it. They still shouldn't have aired it because it added absolutely nothing to the "report".

I agree, and that's how we see it as alumni/ fans. How do you think he came off to the average SB resident? He did nothing wrong; the reporter put him in a no-win situation.
 

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My respect for Goodman just grew a mountain load after watching that video. **** off lady.
 
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I've never actually been pepper sprayed, but I can pretty much guarantee that if it does happen to me, well, I'm going to yell and gyrate-- police and bystanders be damned.

Not fun dude, not fun at all.

Although, some people take it better then others. The worst part is after you think it's over and then you go shower or something, it reactivates the burn.
 

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Two things.

In my time following ND football, I have seen and heard a lot of stories about cops acting... lets say.. 'over zealously' regarding ND kids at keggers. It's a little much and leads me to think that there must be some kind of breakdown with messaging coming from ND faculty to the police.

Second, if it's true that Tommy had to be dragged down and fought back while being arrested, I could totally understand if that was the end of his tenure on the team.

It's part of what makes ND different, we don't tolerate Irish football players kicking cops and being arrested for battery. It sucks, I may not be a fan of Tommy as a QB but I am a fan of his as a person.

Postscript: I think it's a little funny that Tommy tried to run away... his escapability didn't serve him too well in this instance either huh?

I don't understand how you think Tom m y will be kicked off the team. Mike Floyd was arrested 3 times, was on probation and got arrested for DUI. I guess everyone on IE has the sacred cow syndrome. SMH
 

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I agree, and that's how we see it as alumni/ fans. How do you think he came off to the average SB resident? He did nothing wrong; the reporter put him in a no-win situation.


Well if the other guy interviewed was an average SB resident, Goodman probably came across as a hero.
 

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Rees was among about five people who jumped a backyard fence and ran after officers arrived to break up a loud party several blocks from campus about 12:30 a.m. following the last day of Notre Dame's spring semester classes, Trent said.

Trent said no one else at the party was arrested or cited and that none of the others who fled from the party was caught.

Does anyone else find this extremely funny ;)
 
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I don't understand how you think Tom m y will be kicked off the team. Mike Floyd was arrested 3 times, was on probation and got arrested for DUI. I guess everyone on IE has the sacred cow syndrome. SMH

I don't think it's that but if he really is charged and ultimately convicted (not saying he will be or anything like that, just hypothetical) of battery then how would you see him remaining with the team?

Eric Hansen ‏ @hansensouthbend
RT @MaloneMK Rees could be charged as early as today, possibly with a felony. ND Handbook: "If a student is charged with a felony ...


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" ... the University reserves the right to take summary action and temporarily dismiss the student. Similarly, the University may take ...


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" ... summary action to temporarily or permanently dismiss any student convicted of a felony."
 

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Here's another example: You rarely see a black ND athlete get busted off campus in South Bend for drinking. I believe that's because the black athletes go to the black bars- or to parties on the near northwest side- and the cops stay away from harassing those places because they know it is not as safe as busting the white kids in their rental houses. They want the easy bust, and unfortunately ND students keep giving it to them.

Right, the cops are afraid to make arrests in the "unsafe" parts of town.

I understand the frustration with SB police making arrests for minor violations, but this idea that they target white ND students has to be placed in some context. I don't think it's an exaggeration to state that in every city of every state in this country, police are substantially more "overzealous" in poor, minority sections of town than they are in more affluent, wealthy parts of town. Police aggression is a constant threat for African Americans in South Bend, as is true everywhere else. Aggressive policing tactics and arrests for 'public order' violations have been rising since the early 1990s, and these tactics have been targeted on minority men - whites in wealthy neighborhoods may experience this kind of thing occasionally, but it is a constant concern for men of color. It is annoying when an avoidable incident like this happens, but I imagine it is much more annoying to be stopped and frisked on a routine basis because you are black and live near a housing project. This is how America's cities are now policed - and the kicker is, most people don't have qualms with it and it has probably contributed to the decline in crime since 1990. It just sucks when it affects you or someone you know.
 

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I don't understand how you think Tom m y will be kicked off the team. Mike Floyd was arrested 3 times, was on probation and got arrested for DUI. I guess everyone on IE has the sacred cow syndrome. SMH

Don't give me this sacred cow BS.

You can 'SYH' all you want but felony battery on a cop is a lot different than DUI.

I understand that DUI is serious, but it is a teachable error that a lot of people make. You know what a lot of people don't do? Attack police officers while getting arrested.

And don't even bring up the 'arrests' for minor in possession, give me a break.

Athletes getting assault beefs are for other schools, not ND. If this is how it's being reported, I don't see how he's still in the running to be a QB at Notre Dame.
 

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I've never actually been pepper sprayed, but I can pretty much guarantee that if it does happen to me, well, I'm going to yell and gyrate-- police and bystanders be damned.

Being pepper sprayed sucks but not as bad as being tased. That s*** is no joke painful.
 

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Don't give me this sacred cow BS.

You can 'SYH' all you want but felony battery on a cop is a lot different than DUI.

I understand that DUI is serious, but it is a teachable error that a lot of people make. You know what a lot of people don't do? Attack police officers while getting arrested.

And don't even bring up the 'arrests' for minor in possession, give me a break.

Athletes getting assault beefs are for other schools, not ND. If this is how it's being reported, I don't see how he's still in the running to be a QB at Notre Dame.
A DUI on probation is not a minor offense or a teachable error. I'm sure he had to go to some drug or alcohol class while on probation, yet still decided to drive under the influence.

Why don't we all just settle down and see what happens, before we all decide to kick Tommy Rees of the team.

If this was Manti would you all be saying he deserves to be kicked of the team?

You are not going to dismiss the sacred cow sh*t. Please people on this board are HAPPY that this happened to Tommy and want him to get kicked off the team. Please yourself.
 

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I still just can't believe this. I would never have taken Tommy for a guy who would get violent with the police.
 

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Now that Goodie as admitted it is his house, do we have to pray that the SBPD doesn't charge him with "Furnishing Alcohol to Minors?"
 
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Not fun dude, not fun at all.

Although, some people take it better then others. The worst part is after you think it's over and then you go shower or something, it reactivates the burn.

We marched around in roomfuls of shiit didn't we Grahmbo!

John is okay with me as far as his reaction, but if that was his house and he was serving underage drinker, he may have some 'splainin' to do.

John Goodman having a bit part? AuberIrish also showed up in the video!

And Irish Mafia! Here is my clan providing some mellow atmosphere for the day's events:

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Not fun dude, not fun at all.

Although, some people take it better then others. The worst part is after you think it's over and then you go shower or something, it reactivates the burn.

I think you may have missed my point: yes, I know it wouldn't be fun, and if a police officer sprays me with it, then I'm not going to become a subdued, tame individual.

I understand the need and use of need pepper spray. Subjecting a person to its effects , however, and then using that person's natural reaction as evidence of assault seems unfair for sure, and perhaps maybe even like entrapment.

From the television report, I understand that the police are saying Rees "assaulted" and then was sprayed. But the report also says he continued after he was sprayed. News flash-- anybody sure as hell will do that if they've been hit with pepper spray! If whatever charges Rees receives stem from prior to the spraying, fine. If his actions after the spraying are taken into account for the formal charges, then I think that's a whole other issue.
 

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I don't understand how you think Tom m y will be kicked off the team. Mike Floyd was arrested 3 times, was on probation and got arrested for DUI. I guess everyone on IE has the sacred cow syndrome. SMH

Floyd got tagged for Underage drinking, a misdemeanor if memory serves. Rees "battered" an officer of the law. Had he stayed in place more than likely nothing would have happened.

A DUI on probation is not a minor offense or a teachable error. I'm sure he had to go to some drug or alcohol class while on probation, yet still decided to drive under the influence.

Why don't we all just settle down and see what happens, before we all decide to kick Tommy Rees of the team.

If this was Manti would you all be saying he deserves to be kicked of the team?

You are not going to dismiss the sacred cow sh*t. Please people on this board are HAPPY that this happened to Tommy and want him to get kicked off the team. Please yourself.

If it was anyone on this team, or any other team, I would expect nothing less once the process is completed. People who are happy about this are fooling themselves. The coaches know what they are doing, they see these kids day in and day out and they know who the proper started should be.

If anyone thinks that this does not affect recruiting or putting some more wood under Kelly's warming seat, you are also fooling yourself.
 

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A DUI on probation is not a minor offense or a teachable error. I'm sure he had to go to some drug or alcohol class while on probation, yet still decided to drive under the influence.

Why don't we all just settle down and see what happens, before we all decide to kick Tommy Rees of the team.

If this was Manti would you all be saying he deserves to be kicked of the team?

You are not going to dismiss the sacred cow sh*t. Please people on this board are HAPPY that this happened to Tommy and want him to get kicked off the team. Please yourself.


yes.

Like I said, if what happened is what was reported. Yes.

Assault charges are unacceptable. Sorry duder.
 

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Floyd got tagged for Underage drinking, a misdemeanor if memory serves. Rees "battered" an officer of the law. Had he stayed in place more than likely nothing would have happened.



If it was anyone on this team, or any other team, I would expect nothing less once the process is completed. People who are happy about this are fooling themselves. The coaches know what they are doing, they see these kids day in and day out and they know who the proper started should be.

If anyone thinks that this does not affect recruiting or putting some more wood under Kelly's warming seat, you are also fooling yourself.
Anyway stuff like this happens at every college.

Look at the major stuff that happened at TCU and Iowa recently. Kids will be kids. Most of us probably have been in Tommy and Carlos shoes before.
 
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