Tim Tebow

[pkt77242]

Tebow certainly has something special about him. But, he's not a good QB.

The Bears have the worst offense in the league without Cutler and Forte. And with Barber's two major mistakes, that game should have been over 10-7 in regulation.

It will play itself out, but the guy was 3 for 16 through 3 quarters. He's just not that good (in my very humble opinion).

He also had a long bomb dropped by Thomas that probably would have been a touchdown, so they would have won 14-10. Just saying, we can all pick plays that could/should have gone different.

 

[Irishnuke]

If Tebow never talked about his faith in God, he wouldn't be so hated. Sad times we live in.

 

[woolybug25]

If Tebow never talked about his faith in God, he wouldn't be so hated. Sad times we live in.

It offends me that Tebow feels like God plays a part in who wins a football game. He rationalizes the bad things in the world (murder, rape, genocide, etc) as "God's Plan", but feels that God has the time and desire to make Marion Barber fumble the ball.

Tebow's drive and desire to win is remarkable, but I am frankly sick of hearing about how "his lord and savior" is somehow playing a part in the Broncos success. I'm not offended by his faith, i'm offended that he honestly believes that God cares about his play on the football field.

His faith isn't what annoys people. Otherwise, why aren't players like Dawkins, Kurt Warner, etc vilified for their faith? They continuously express their faith without ever getting flack. Warner himself said that Tebow's evangelism is over the top. As I said, I don't know too many people that dislike Tebow because of his faith. It's the fact that he somehow feels that he is blessed on the football field by him that gets under people's skin.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

If Tebow never talked about his faith in God, he wouldn't be so hated. Sad times we live in.

Is it? Some don't want his "testimony" jammed down their collective throats every time a camera is around. I think that it's great that folks believe and practice what is most important to them from a religious standpoint. It crosses the line when you're given a public forum and it's all you hear about. Jebbus, it's tough to hate the kid because he does all the right things, but he needs to loosen up his religious grip on America. We already went through W Bush and his religious right wing nonsense. My weekends are for football, not to be preached to.

 

[BobD]

If Tebow never talked about his faith in God, he wouldn't be so hated. Sad times we live in.

I don't hear a lot of people hating on Tebow for anything. I do hear many, like myself who think his success is fun to watch and then some who get aggravated because he proves stats don't win games.

 

[CanadianIrishFan306]

Only reason i don't like Tebow is because my brother is a Tebow fan and says that he is a good quarterback and comparing him to Vick and Newton and such quarterbacks.

 

[kmoose]

If Tebow never talked about his faith in God, he wouldn't be so hated. Sad times we live in.

People don't hate Tebow because of his faith. They hate him because they are tired of hearing everyone talk about what a great QB he is, when he obviously isn't. He's a great athlete, and apparently an incredible leader, but a great QB he ain't.

 

[RyCo1983]

Is it? Some don't want his "testimony" jammed down their collective throats every time a camera is around. I think that it's great that folks believe and practice what is most important to them from a religious standpoint. It crosses the line when you're given a public forum and it's all you hear about. Jebbus, it's tough to hate the kid because he does all the right things, but he needs to loosen up his religious grip on America. We already went through W Bush and his religious right wing nonsense. My weekends are for football, not to be preached to.

Don't worry HCTI...when he gets discarded after he breaks down physically because he can't play the position properly (passing: face it...he can't accurately throw beyond 15 yards consistently...and that throwing motion is awful) and safely (running a read option in the NFL, and not sliding...really???) at the professional level it'll still be part of God's plan. God fully intends to let John Fox ride Tim til he breaks. Then the Broncos will go and get their QB of the future.

I don't care about Tim Tebow and his religion. I don't care about anything he says. What I do dislike is deifying the guy when he's a WELL BELOW AVERAGE QUARTERBACK.

Denver's defense keeps giving the world excuses for him.

 

[tadman95]

It would help if there wasn't 24/7 coverage on him. That's certainly not his doing but it amplifies everything. I wish he would tone it down a little.

 

[ShakeDown]

Hahahahaha:

IrishChocolate9 lOUIS NIX III:

I think someone needs to tell tim #tebow that world hunger and cancer are ahead by 13 and there's only three minutes left.

Hilarious. Made my night.

 

[Anchorman]

He may not be the greatest quarterback in the traditional sense of the word. That said, he is 7-1, wins games, is an incredible leader, a phenomenal athlete who outperforms everyone's expectations and is emblematic of everything we hope to use sports to teach. It brings to mind the line in Rudy about if you had even a fraction of the heart that he had...

I know which I'd prefer to have.

 

[PJWhitfield]

I liked Lou Holtz's reaction years ago when religion and football came up. Before the 1988 game vs. Miami, some preacher at Miami said God doesn't care who wins a football game. Lou's reply: "I don't think God cares who wins either but his mother does!"

 

[FrankMA]

Yes, and he was 4/5 on FGs, in those 4 games.



And since Tebow came in, Prater is 13/18 on FGs.

He's not elevating everyone!

Right, the difference is that Prater has a chance to kick game winning fields goals since Tebow took over as QB. He would not have that opportunity if Orton was still QB.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

He also had a long bomb dropped by Thomas that probably would have been a touchdown, so they would have won 14-10. Just saying, we can all pick plays that could/should have gone different.

No argument. I just think this will play out that he's just not a great QB.

Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[pkt77242]

No argument. I just think this will play out that he's just not a great QB.

Maybe I'm wrong.

I would say that he isn't a great QB right now. From all accounts he has a great work ethic and if that is true he will probably become at least a good QB, if not better than that.

 

[BobD]

He's the first one to admit he's not a great QB. He's just a good guy and he makes it fun to watch the games. I think it's refreshing to see a genuinely nice guy on the field having some success. I've had enough of the arrogant smack talking thug types that probably wouldn't be employed if they couldn't play football.

 

[NDPhilly]

No argument. I just think this will play out that he's just not a great QB.

Maybe I'm wrong.

But All he does is win...

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[NoJusticeNoPeace]

I just hate it when players are way too overrated, which is exactly what Tebow is.

 

[IrishLax]

Tebow is the Tommy Rees of the NFL.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

Tebow is the Tommy Rees of the NFL.

Tebow can run at least.
I have no feelings either way about the guy but he always seems to find ways to win.
May not have the best mechanics but he's giving Denver a chance right now.

 

[ND_HAS_RISEN]

Is it? Some don't want his "testimony" jammed down their collective throats every time a camera is around. I think that it's great that folks believe and practice what is most important to them from a religious standpoint. It crosses the line when you're given a public forum and it's all you hear about. Jebbus, it's tough to hate the kid because he does all the right things, but he needs to loosen up his religious grip on America. We already went through W Bush and his religious right wing nonsense. My weekends are for football, not to be preached to.

All I gotta say is:

7-1!!!!


Oh wait, It's Tebow not Rees....

 

[DANsanity15]

The biggest problem people have with him is that he's an outspoken Christian. They won't tell you that though. They'll say they don't like him because he's not a real QB or because he's unconventional or that he's on ESPN every 15 minutes. While all that may be true, it's not the reason for the hate. His style of play may lead to criticism, but his personal faith leads to the hate.

Couldn't have said it better

 

[CanadianIrishFan306]

Tebow is the Tommy Rees of the NFL.

+1

The exact thing i told my brother.

 

[BeauBenken]

You're right. Prater was probably thinking about Tim's smile while he kicked 59 and 51 yard field goals to tie and win the game today.

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This is what happened today.

 

[Irishnuke]

It offends me that Tebow feels like God plays a part in who wins a football game. He rationalizes the bad things in the world (murder, rape, genocide, etc) as "God's Plan", but feels that God has the time and desire to make Marion Barber fumble the ball.

Tebow's drive and desire to win is remarkable, but I am frankly sick of hearing about how "his lord and savior" is somehow playing a part in the Broncos success. I'm not offended by his faith, i'm offended that he honestly believes that God cares about his play on the football field.

His faith isn't what annoys people. Otherwise, why aren't players like Dawkins, Kurt Warner, etc vilified for their faith? They continuously express their faith without ever getting flack. Warner himself said that Tebow's evangelism is over the top. As I said, I don't know too many people that dislike Tebow because of his faith. It's the fact that he somehow feels that he is blessed on the football field by him that gets under people's skin.

If you're a Christian like Tebow, then you believe God is in control of everything. Everything includes who wins a football game. So, basically you don't like him for his beliefs. You proved my point.

 

[CanadianIrishFan306]

It offends me that Tebow feels like God plays a part in who wins a football game. He rationalizes the bad things in the world (murder, rape, genocide, etc) as "God's Plan", but feels that God has the time and desire to make Marion Barber fumble the ball.

Tebow's drive and desire to win is remarkable, but I am frankly sick of hearing about how "his lord and savior" is somehow playing a part in the Broncos success. I'm not offended by his faith, i'm offended that he honestly believes that God cares about his play on the football field.

His faith isn't what annoys people. Otherwise, why aren't players like Dawkins, Kurt Warner, etc vilified for their faith? They continuously express their faith without ever getting flack. Warner himself said that Tebow's evangelism is over the top. As I said, I don't know too many people that dislike Tebow because of his faith. It's the fact that he somehow feels that he is blessed on the football field by him that gets under people's skin.

Tebow said that he believes God does nothing to help him win, he just thanks him for the opportunity.

 

[woolybug25]

If you're a Christian like Tebow, then you believe God is in control of everything. Everything includes who wins a football game. So, basically you don't like him for his beliefs. You proved my point.

I don't care if he is a christian, but being a christian doesn't mean that you think that God somehow helps you play football.

As I said. He feels God has a part in who wins a football game (or just gives him the opportunity as Canukirish put it) but things like world hunger, rape, genocide, disease and child molestation are all just part of God's plan?

No thanks. If god hangs out around football programs then maybe someone should remind him that they play the game at PSU.

Give me a break....

 

[Carlyle Javar Holiday]

You guys act like he is the only player that contributes God to the football field or any sport for that matter. Baseball players do this all the time after they hit a homerun. Athletes all around the world contribute God to their athletic ability. People do not seem to mind when this guy thanks God after hitting a homerun.

 

[woolybug25]

You guys act like he is the only player that contributes God to the football field or any sport for that matter. Baseball players do this all the time after they hit a homerun. Athletes all around the world contribute God to their athletic ability. People do not seem to mind when this guy thanks God after hitting a homerun.

No, that is exactly what we are saying. There are a ton of christian athletes that are not vilified for it. Why? Well you don't see Pujols bowing his head in prayer in the dugout, he doesn't have to talk about his lord and savior before every interview, he doesn't end every conversation with God Bless You and he certainly doesn't think god divinely possessed Angels brass to give him that stupid contract.

Most Americans are christian. So it's not a random posse of atheists bagging on Tebow for his beliefs. It's coming from people that believe in God themselves. For crying out loud, Kurt Warner who is a steadfast christian, see's it this way.

“There’s almost a faith cliche, where (athletes) come out and say, ‘I want to thank my Lord and savior.’ As soon as you say that, the guard goes up, the walls go up, and I came to realize you have to be more strategic.

“You can’t help but cheer for a guy like that,” Warner said of Tebow. “But I’d tell him, ‘Put down the boldness in regards to the words, and keep living the way you’re living. Let your teammates do the talking for you. Let them cheer on your testimony.’

 

[IrishJayhawk]

All I gotta say is:

7-1!!!!


Oh wait, It's Tebow not Rees....

That comparison would only be apt if all of Rees' wins looked like the Pitt game this year.