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Car runs like a dream and has the industry leading 100K mile warranty. Stop living in the stone age!

You know why it has a 100,000 mile warranty? No one wanted to buy a Korean car when they were introduced. They put in this warranty to generate sales.

I found this pic of you and your wife in your Kia. I see why you need a new car.

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Good luck is right. Sols are the PT Cruiser for this generation.

When I was in 6th grade, and "The Fast and the Furious" had just come out, my friends were dead set on getting Honda Civics and modding them to be like the cars in the film.

I was dead set on getting a PT Cruiser and doing the same, because I wanted to be cool and different.

Looking back, it is now that I realize just how much a young brain grows through adolescence and into adulthood.
 

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When I was in 6th grade, and "The Fast and the Furious" had just come out, my friends were dead set on getting Honda Civics and modding them to be like the cars in the film.

I was dead set on getting a PT Cruiser and doing the same, because I wanted to be cool and different.

Looking back, it is now that I realize just how much a young brain grows through adolescence and into adulthood.

Tbf, many people were thinking that the look was to emulate the modded cars from a half century ago. The PT Roadster and Cruiser failed, but people were excited for a bit
 

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Tbf, many people were thinking that the look was to emulate the modded cars from a half century ago. The PT Roadster and Cruiser failed, but people were excited for a bit
I come from a car family. Most anyone related to me own at least one, and many several, antique automobiles. When the PT Cruiser was announced my parents went to purchase one based on the retro look. There was an actual waiting list they were so popular. It was about 3 months long and required a deposit. They put their name on the list.....luckily they decided not to purchase before they'd gotten to the top of that list. Those cars are ugly.
 

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Tbf, many people were thinking that the look was to emulate the modded cars from a half century ago. The PT Roadster and Cruiser failed, but people were excited for a bit

I come from a car family. Most anyone related to me own at least one, and many several, antique automobiles. When the PT Cruiser was announced my parents went to purchase one based on the retro look. There was an actual waiting list they were so popular. It was about 3 months long and required a deposit. They put their name on the list.....luckily they decided not to purchase before they'd gotten to the top of that list. Those cars are ugly.

That's exactly why the modeled them like that. Chrysler was looking to tap into the success they had with the new look Ram when it was released in '94. The Ram was designed after trucks from the years ago. It was quite successful so they tried the PTC. The PTC was a sharp looking car (without the fake wood) for its time, but they were basically a Dodge Dart with a different body. Doomed to fail.

The Prowler was a hit from the looks to the speed. IMO, it failed because it was a Plymouth product. People don't want to spend money on a high end sports car if it isn't European. Same with the Chrysler Roadster.
 
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I do remember there was tons of hype for the PT when it first debuted... I remember seeing reports on the Today show or some such about Hollywood stars fighting to be the first to get one... it didn't last long though obviously. I worked as a car port for a rental company for one summer in college and we had those in stock. They were trash imo... not only that the setup inside was so awkward... very hard to clean, Very ergonomically challenging.
 

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PTC became such a joke, didnt Michael Scott drive one in The Office? He had a Sebring (other heavily mocked car), but feel like he had a PTC in later seasons.


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My buddy's parents had a Sebring convertible in college... they'd let him take it constantly... we loved that car.
 

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There's also the Check version, the HHR. They came in to late and it never gained much popularity. Or the Chevy SSR. A high HP RWD hard top convertible truck. But they had a hefty price tag.
 

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Koon,

If you cant sell on CL, look at CarMax. I have a jalopy that we need to get rid of. Was gonna put it on CL, and take the first $500 that walked through the door.

Somebody said CM buys all cars, so I took it there today for a free appraisal, expecting an offer of $250. They brought me an offer of $1500. Trade in value on it is only $500-$750.




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Not sure if this should be here or in the "Culture" thread.

A lady in Indy is now trying to raise funds to build a "Chicken Wedding Chapel" .

"Hey honey, let's get married at the Basilica, or maybe on the field at ND stadium? "No?" "How about on a cruise ship?", No?" "Wait, what?" "Did you just say you wanted to get married in a chicken coup?"

https://www.indystar.com/picture-ga...lp-bring-chicken-chapel-love-indy/1592866002/
 
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My wife and I are going car shopping this afternoon and considering a trade in for the first time. I’ve only bought one vehicle from a dealership so I’m pretty new to this process. Also have never traded in. Wondering if anyone has any advice on a few things.

We have a good credit score (~760). What is a good interest rate? What is a bad? Should I expect a better interest rate through the dealership or going through my bank (US BANK).

FWIW, our budget is $20K. Looking for an AWD SUV with low mileage. Need AWD for winter with a new baby. My vehicle is a 2014 Kia Soul +. 75K miles, professionally detailed, new tires and breaks 2 months ago. Carfax report suggests $10,600 retail. I’m expecting a trade in offer of ~$7K, which is too low. I have it listed privately for $9,300 and haven’t gotten any serious inquiries.

More interested on advice/heads up on the interest rates, but if you have advice on negotiating a trade in I’d appreciate that as well.
 

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I've never had to buy from a dealership before, but the first thing everybody has always told me is to get financing done before going to the dealers. Go to your bank or a local credit union for your loan first
 

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My wife and I are going car shopping this afternoon and considering a trade in for the first time. I’ve only bought one vehicle from a dealership so I’m pretty new to this process. Also have never traded in. Wondering if anyone has any advice on a few things.

We have a good credit score (~760). What is a good interest rate? What is a bad? Should I expect a better interest rate through the dealership or going through my bank (US BANK).

FWIW, our budget is $20K. Looking for an AWD SUV with low mileage. Need AWD for winter with a new baby. My vehicle is a 2014 Kia Soul +. 75K miles, professionally detailed, new tires and breaks 2 months ago. Carfax report suggests $10,600 retail. I’m expecting a trade in offer of ~$7K, which is too low. I have it listed privately for $9,300 and haven’t gotten any serious inquiries.

More interested on advice/heads up on the interest rates, but if you have advice on negotiating a trade in I’d appreciate that as well.

1. Go to CarMax first and get an offer on your car. It is good for 7 days. You will have that in your back pocket, so you know in the trade talks you can get at least that much.

2. Get financing offers ahead of time. This is not to say you can't use the dealership's financing. It is just information, so you know a baseline as far as rates and terms.

3. NEVER talk about monthly payments (if you use their financing) before agreeing on a price. Do your research ahead of time, know what the car should be selling for and base your offer on that.

4. Be friendly, but firm. They are trying to get the most money out of you possible, they are not your friend. There is no reason to be adversarial though, just know what you want and stick to it.

5. Keep an eye out for hidden add-ons in the price.
 

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Pretty spot on with the two posts above.

Know what you want and stick with it. They will try to talk you into what they want to sell you, they will fudge the numbers to fit your payment if you tell them what you're aiming for, including lengthening your loan to make it seem like you're paying less when in the end it'll cost you considerably more.
 

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Couldn't pass off that hamster mobile? lol

You're getting good advice.

1. Use your bank. Dealers get incentives and someone has to pay for that and it's not the lender if you get my drift.

2. Research online and you'll get a good idea what you should pay for the new vehicle.

3. Absolutely do not discuss a payment. Simply tell them you already have financing and are not interested in monthly payments.

4. Because you are trading in, they won't come off the price as much like they would with no trade in.

5. Don't get caught up in the excitement and emotions of buying a car. Be ready to get up and walk away. I was negotiating on a new Trans Am for my wife. She wanted it and I didn't but she was going to be making the payments. After going back and forth, the manager comes in and says, "You're a tough negotiator and we're only $75 apart. You won't quibble about $75 will you?" I immediately replied, "Yes I will. I don't care if I buy this car or not. This is the number I need to be at." He knocked off the last $75.
 
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Koon,

PM Crusader with all the details of what you have, what you want, etc. He is our resident auto dealer guru.


*take it to Carnax for an appraisal. They will probably give you a cash offer that is more than trade in. See what you can get both places


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Driving on a state road and all of a sudden I hear a loud boom and my windshield shatters. My wife were driving Saturday when those 50mph winds dropped a tree on us. Never saw it coming.

It was pretty good size. Fortunately it hit right at the drivers side post so the cab didn't get crushed in and hurt us. The hood, left fender, both left doors and the bed had some damage as did the roof (moon roof doesn't close now). My truck is a 2008 Lincoln Mark LT and was in pristine condition. I bought it used about three years ago and only have about six payments left. Adjuster is coming out today. I hope they don't want to total it. I know I couldn't find another deal like that and I was looking forward to having an extra $450 a month in my pocket.

Koon, That hamster mobile still for sale? lol

Adjuster just called $10K in repairs.
 
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From last year so maybe this has been shared before but wow... this is petty done right... lol:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-man-sticks-dmv-paying-300k-pennies/96540738/

He published a live update from the DMV on his website as he watched employees count almost 300,000 pennies to pay the $2,987.14 sales tax he owed on two new cars

Sounds like a major douche bag to me. Just trying to make a bunch of average people's days that much harder while posting updates to his website. That will really make politicians change the tax policy. Just another attention seeking dick.
 
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