The 2019 schedule is insane

[BobbyMac]

And what if Swarbrick listens to reason by dropping Stanford?

He's contracted through 2024. If he wants to buy his way out, great. I would.

I'd then split the Vandy and Northwestern slot into yearly home and away's for both.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Four Stars for Crusader's schedule --- Navy is gone.

Give me the bye week just before Stanford and we're rolling.

 

[irishtrain]

Good grief, are we TRYING to miss the playoffs?


Opponent
Sept. 2 at Louisville
Sept. 7 Bye
Sept. 14 New Mexico
Sept. 21 at Georgia
Sept. 28 Virginia
Oct. 5 Bowling Green
Oct. 12 USC
Oct. 19 Bye
Oct. 26 at Michigan
Nov. 2 Virginia Tech
Nov. 9 at Duke
Nov. 16 Navy
Nov. 23 Boston College
Nov. 30 at Stanford

I'm very serious when I pose this question and not being silly -how do you think Alabama would do playing this different weather/ different style of team/ different travel national schedule-I don't think they would handle it as easily as some would think

 

[Old Man Mike]

12-0 in a typical year. Maybe more injuries, but when your second team is composed of five-stars they're less affected.

P.S. put motivated teams like Auburn and LSU in there instead of USC and Stanford, and THEN the injuries and wear make a difference.

 

[Sea Turtle]

I'm very serious when I pose this question and not being silly -how do you think Alabama would do playing this different weather/ different style of team/ different travel national schedule-I don't think they would handle it as easily as some would think

They might drop 1.

The thing is, we are not in Alabama's league. Therefore, we need to stop scheduling like we are Alabama.

 

[BobbyMac]

They might drop 1.

The thing is, we are not in Alabama's league. Therefore, we need to stop scheduling like we are Alabama.

Newsflash: Alabama doesn't schedule like they're Alabama.

If ND scheduled like Bama this is what the schedule'd look like:

UCLA (in Indy)

UL-Layfayette

@ GT

Va Tech

Chattanooga

@ Pitt

Duke

@ UNC

BYE

@ FSU

NC State

Indiana St

Clemson


4 true road games, ALWAYS 7 home games and a neutral game in SEC country.

Schedule 3 powder puffs, one of which is a FCS school every year

Have a "marquee game" to start the season off where you get a P5 program to travel across the country and play you in your backyard at a local NFL stadium.

And don't travel to Miami for an away game. Bama's been to Florida once since 2006 (2011).

That's how you get to the playoffs.

 

[calvegas04]

Scheduling should be like wrestling where a team can call another team out in the middle of the year and get it on the next saturday

 

[zelezo vlk]

Scheduling should be like wrestling where a team can call another team out in the middle of the year and get it on the next saturday

I really want this

 

[BobbyMac]

I really want this

Not me.

El Swaro would only call out elite teams that wore red & traveled well.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Newsflash: Alabama doesn't schedule like they're Alabama.

If ND scheduled like Bama this is what the schedule'd look like:

UCLA (in Indy)

UL-Layfayette

@ GT

Va Tech

Chattanooga

@ Pitt

Duke

@ UNC

BYE

@ FSU

NC State

Indiana St

Clemson


4 true road games, ALWAYS 7 home games and a neutral game in SEC country.

Schedule 3 powder puffs, one of which is a FCS school every year

Have a "marquee game" to start the season off where you get a P5 program to travel across the country and play you in your backyard at a local NFL stadium.

And don't travel to Miami for an away game. Bama's been to Florida once since 2006 (2011).

That's how you get to the playoffs.

What I meant was, we should stop scheduling as if we are as powerful as Alabama.

We should schedule the way Alabama actually does.

Sorry I wasn't clear.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Too early to panic about next year's schedule.

I don't think so. It's going to be brutal. We are taking 5 losses with this.

I'm sure Kelly looks at it, looks at Jack, smiles and says 'thanks buddy'.

 

[BobbyMac]

I don't think so. It's going to be brutal. We are taking 5 losses with this.

I'm sure Kelly looks at it, looks at Jack, smiles and says 'thanks buddy'.

I don't jump into these silly worst case scenario predictions very often but name the odds and the stakes and I'm all over your prediction. Do you own your home outright? Got a 60's / early 70's muscle car?

 

[D-BOE34]

Sept. 2 at Louisville - Tough but should win
Sept. 7 Bye -- WIN!!!!
Sept. 14 New Mexico - Win
Sept. 21 at Georgia - Loss
Sept. 28 Virginia - Win
Oct. 5 Bowling Green - Win
Oct. 12 USC - Toss Up or Win - I go with win but can be argued
Oct. 19 Bye - WIN!!
Oct. 26 at Michigan - See USC
Nov. 2 Virginia Tech - Win. @home, we're better team IMO
Nov. 9 at Duke - WIN
Nov. 16 Navy - WIN
Nov. 23 Boston College - Tough, no doubt but @ home, win!
Nov. 30 at Stanford - They have our number. Not with our offense though.

10-2 with BC/STAN/MICH as my toss ups. I honestly think we shouldn't be scared unless this year we don't see some good things from the guys coming back on Defense.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Sept. 2 at Louisville - Tough but should win
Sept. 7 Bye -- WIN!!!!
Sept. 14 New Mexico - Win
Sept. 21 at Georgia - Loss
Sept. 28 Virginia - Win
Oct. 5 Bowling Green - Win
Oct. 12 USC - Toss Up or Win - I go with win but can be argued
Oct. 19 Bye - WIN!!
Oct. 26 at Michigan - See USC
Nov. 2 Virginia Tech - Win. @home, we're better team IMO
Nov. 9 at Duke - WIN
Nov. 16 Navy - WIN
Nov. 23 Boston College - Tough, no doubt but @ home, win!
Nov. 30 at Stanford - They have our number. Not with our offense though.

10-2 with BC/STAN/MICH as my toss ups. I honestly think we shouldn't be scared unless this year we don't see some good things from the guys coming back on Defense.

That's fair I suppose. We could go 3-0 in toss up games. We could also go 0-3 or 1-2. I also don't think Michigan is a toss up on the road.

Then there is also the unexpected loss that seems to happen to Kelly most years. It's just not an intelligent schedule at all. Especially with a program that hasn't won a BCS bowl in 25 years. But then again, some programs have a playoffs or bust mentality while ours simply 'wants to be relevant'.

 

[Irish YJ]

That's fair I suppose. We could go 3-0 in toss up games. We could also go 0-3 or 1-2. I also don't think Michigan is a toss up on the road.

Then there is also the unexpected loss that seems to happen to Kelly most years. It's just not an intelligent schedule at all. Especially with a program that hasn't won a BCS bowl in 25 years. But then again, some programs have a playoffs or bust mentality while ours simply 'wants to be relevant'.

2019 is hard, but I'll reserve my judgement until mid season this year. We lose 2 great LBs and 2 starting DLs as well as Coleman, but we have a lot of young guys who could get ready in a hurry. Not so worried about the O. While I think 2020 is gonna be our best year in a long time, I'm not writing off 2019 just yet.

 

[D-BOE34]

That's fair I suppose. We could go 3-0 in toss up games. We could also go 0-3 or 1-2. I also don't think Michigan is a toss up on the road.

Then there is also the unexpected loss that seems to happen to Kelly most years. It's just not an intelligent schedule at all. Especially with a program that hasn't won a BCS bowl in 25 years. But then again, some programs have a playoffs or bust mentality while ours simply 'wants to be relevant'.

Can't disagree with that at all! I think YJ above makes good points. We will all be able to speak better on 2019 once we see what we have in what is coming back half way through 2018.

 

[Irish YJ]

Can't disagree with that at all! I think YJ above makes good points. We will all be able to speak better on 2019 once we see what we have in what is coming back half way through 2018.

Anything could happen. I'm excited about some of the young guys and I think we could see a ton of early participation especially with the new rules.

 

[RDU Irish]

Navy - BC - Stanford to finish the season would be one loss minimum for just about any team out there. There won’t be a single healthy body on the team. It’s the cumulative effect of the scheduling, not the individual games. It is why Auburn and Bama scrimmage a high school the week before the Iron Bowl every damn year.

The new rule has to help though.

 

[RDU Irish]

In many ways I don’t mind how the first half shapes up, Bowling Green, New Mexico and Virginia mixed with two byes to space out UGA, USC and Michigan. L-ville should be plenty manageable and not hitting up to one of the big ones. But WTF do we need UGA and Michigan in the same year? Are they overcompensating for the lightest ACC slate we have seen (UL, VA, VT, Duke, BC)?

We should be pre season top 10 - we don’t NEED to prove shit to make playoffs. One loss and you are in versus doubling your probability of a two loss season and needing to hope people respect your schedule.

Fact is Savy Jack is obsessed with making his money during the season with as many marque games as possible and does not schedule like someone serious about making the playoffs. Hell UCF has one of our top four games on their schedule last year they make the playoffs.

 

[Blaise]

I know I will get roasted for this but I love our schedule.
Sorry but playing Miami of ohio or Rice does nothing for me. I love being pumped up for good football! Notre Dame vs Texas was ELECTRIC and not just because it was the home opener. There was a buzz and being at that Stadium was AMAZING... I would rather play a tough schedule with great matchups and go 9-3/10-2 then have a powderpuff schedule and go 11-1 and make playoffs.
Sure winning a NC would be fun but the games I remember is that Texas win, the ND over FSU in 93, the ND Miami in the 80's. I don't remember the 50 point blowouts against Navy in the 80's or 90's...

 

[snoopdog]

Welcome new guy. IF you stick around long enough you will find just how UNtrue the bolded is. ND doesn't need marquee games like OU, UT, UGA, AR, WI, OSU, A&M during the season... that's what the playoff's are for.

Playing MI/MSU, VT/NCSt, Stanford, Clem/FSU/U, SC is all the strength you need as long as ND doesn't dip into sub-MAC comp... that SEC powers still gets away with multiple times per season.

Rotate teams that share a slash, always have 7 home games and shoot for 1 good loss per year at most, this is a winner:

@MI/MSU

SMU/Rice/Tulane

Vandy/Northwestern

@Purdue

Temple/UConn

ACC-1 (NCSt/UNC/VT)

Stanford

@ACC-2 (BC/Cuse/Pitt)

@ACC-3 (WF/UVa/Duke)

ACC-4 (Clemson/FSU/U)

ACC-5 (GT/Ville)

@SC

I like this, except for ending the year in California against what is normally a very good team. Why does ND agree to the stupidest scheduling game ever.

There is zero benefit to playing the last game in California. In fact ND has to make up an excuse to justify it. ( it helps with recruiting)

ND last game should be a home game against an ACC opponent.

 

[BobbyMac]

I like this, except for ending the year in California against what is normally a very good team. Why does ND agree to the stupidest scheduling game ever.

There is zero benefit to playing the last game in California. In fact ND has to make up an excuse to justify it. ( it helps with recruiting)

ND last game should be a home game against an ACC opponent.

While I've been calling for the dumping of Stanford for years, ending the game in LA every other year is good for recruiting (at least it doesn't hurt) but more so, it's important to the tradition of ND Football. It's what made ND, ND. Getting on a train and crossing the country to play SC because the bigots in Ann Arbor made it too difficult to schedule games locally. You need to go to a game at the Coliseum. The amount of ND fans there tailgating and the amount in the stands is impressive.

Another thing to remember is where ND's alums / student body are from. Orange County sends more students to ND than any other County. Having lived there, it really shocked me to see how many people wear ND swag on the regular.

Now would I like to see SC come to SB on the last game of every other season? Yep.

 

[Sea Turtle]

I know I will get roasted for this but I love our schedule.
Sorry but playing Miami of ohio or Rice does nothing for me. I love being pumped up for good football! Notre Dame vs Texas was ELECTRIC and not just because it was the home opener. There was a buzz and being at that Stadium was AMAZING... I would rather play a tough schedule with great matchups and go 9-3/10-2 then have a powderpuff schedule and go 11-1 and make playoffs.
Sure winning a NC would be fun but the games I remember is that Texas win, the ND over FSU in 93, the ND Miami in the 80's. I don't remember the 50 point blowouts against Navy in the 80's or 90's...

You'd rather go 9-3 than make the playoffs and win a title?

I just don't know what to say to that.

 

[snoopdog]

While I've been calling for the dumping of Stanford for years, ending the game in LA every other year is good for recruiting (at least it doesn't hurt) but more so, it's important to the tradition of ND Football. It's what made ND, ND. Getting on a train and crossing the country to play SC because the bigots in Ann Arbor made it too difficult to schedule games locally. You need to go to a game at the Coliseum. The amount of ND fans there tailgating and the amount in the stands is impressive.

Another thing to remember is where ND's alums / student body are from. Orange County sends more students to ND than any other County. Having lived there, it really shocked me to see how many people wear ND swag on the regular.

Now would I like to see SC come to SB on the last game of every other season? Yep.

If tradition is so important, ND should take a train to play Carnegie Mellon every year.

The past is the past for a reason.

They can play every other year in The OC in September, not the last game of the season, when they are maxed burnt out.

 

[Blaise]

You'd rather go 9-3 than make the playoffs and win a title?

I just don't know what to say to that.

Making the playoffs does not promise a title...

I enjoy my football on Saturdays. Not just Jan playoff games..

I love going to the ND vs MI games, ND vs Stanford, ND vs Georgia was a ton a fun.. Never heard anyone say.. Man.. Can't wait for that ND vs Western Michigan game..

I get it.. You value winning a title and want the easiest way to getting there. There is nothing wrong with that.

I enjoy tailgating for big games, looking forward to the game all week. Watching two top 15 teams duke it out. That's what I love most. I love Nd's schedule. Yes its very difficult and probably means we are only prone to making the playoffs once or twice in a 8 year period. But I wouldn't change it

 

[BobbyMac]

If tradition is so important, ND should take a train to play Carnegie Mellon every year.

The past is the past for a reason.

They can play every other year in The OC in September, not the last game of the season, when they are maxed burnt out.

You don't get it and you never will hanging out on the internet with the typical subway alums.

The present is the present because of the past. You're an ND fan because of the past. Quit trying to separate them. ND's ACC agreement already did the unthinkable in eliminating Purdue and MSU from the yearly schedule but SC and Navy aren't going anywhere until CFB is radically realigned.

Now, if you can get ND and SC to play in Sept every year, you're wasting your negotiating talents on a FB website. But newsflash: A LOT of ND people/fans like spending every other Thanksgiving in LA. The players like it too, getting out of 30-40 degree South Bend for a few days is a second bowl game and that's how it's presented to prospects during their recruitment. The aspect of "flying all the way across country" gets blown out of proportion, ND boards their chartered jet 5 miles from campus, flies 4.5 hrs to LAX, then gets off and takes the bus 10 miles to the Coliseum.

If you wanna complain, complain about things that can change... like Swarbrick's scheduling. ND should schedule around SC like Bama schedules for LSU or Auburn... not 4 road games in the last month that includes NY and Cali twice.

 

[snoopdog]

You don't get it and you never will hanging out on the internet with the typical subway alums.

The present is the present because of the past. You're an ND fan because of the past. Quit trying to separate them. ND's ACC agreement already did the unthinkable in eliminating Purdue and MSU from the yearly schedule but SC and Navy aren't going anywhere until CFB is radically realigned.

Now, if you can get ND and SC to play in Sept every year, you're wasting your negotiating talents on a FB website. But newsflash: A LOT of ND people/fans like spending every other Thanksgiving in LA. The players like it too, getting out of 30-40 degree South Bend for a few days is a second bowl game and that's how it's presented to prospects during their recruitment. The aspect of "flying all the way across country" gets blown out of proportion, ND boards their chartered jet 5 miles from campus, flies 4.5 hrs to LAX, then gets off and takes the bus 10 miles to the Coliseum.

If you wanna complain, complain about things that can change... like Swarbrick's scheduling. ND should schedule around SC like Bama schedules for LSU or Auburn... not 4 road games in the last month that includes NY and Cali twice.

You are correct that I don’t get it and never will.

But I do know much smarter football minds than mine, try to limit travel to a minimum.

 

[Bishop2b5]

ND should schedule around SC like Bama schedules for LSU or Auburn... not 4 road games in the last month that includes NY and Cali twice.

Everybody, no matter how tough, deep, or talented, has their limits. You guys are usually just so beat up by the end of November. I can't imagine having to face LSU, Florida, UGA and Auburn in four consecutive weeks. Even if you're better than all those teams, the grind beats you down and one of them will take you out. It's so hard to get up for a big game several weeks in a row. At some point you're just emotionally exhausted and physically beaten up. I'd like to see Jack schedule a cupcake or even a bye down the stretch to give you guys a breather and a chance to heal up.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Everybody, no matter how tough, deep, or talented, has their limits. You guys are usually just so beat up by the end of November. I can't imagine having to face LSU, Florida, UGA and Auburn in four consecutive weeks. Even if you're better than all those teams, the grind beats you down and one of them will take you out. It's so hard to get up for a big game several weeks in a row. At some point you're just emotionally exhausted and physically beaten up. I'd like to see Jack schedule a cupcake or even a bye down the stretch to give you guys a breather and a chance to heal up.

He's either too stupid or stubborn to. And guess what, we get to look forward to Alabama and Ohio State joining the schedule in the future too.

Hell, let's just schedule the top 12 teams in the country each year.

 

[snoopdog]

Everybody, no matter how tough, deep, or talented, has their limits. You guys are usually just so beat up by the end of November. I can't imagine having to face LSU, Florida, UGA and Auburn in four consecutive weeks. Even if you're better than all those teams, the grind beats you down and one of them will take you out. It's so hard to get up for a big game several weeks in a row. At some point you're just emotionally exhausted and physically beaten up. I'd like to see Jack schedule a cupcake or even a bye down the stretch to give you guys a breather and a chance to heal up.

Very well put.

Unfortunately JS adds the added burden of extreme travel to the crazy slate of opposition

If JS insists on going to California to end the season, he should at the very minimum schedule a MAC opponent in South Bend the week before.