Terror Attacks in Belgium

[greyhammer90]

Honeymoon in France, making a stop over in Belgium for some beer. Might try to completely rearrange our plans now with all the crap happening in Paris/Belgium. Nobody seems to be trying to blow up the Loire Valley.

I think those two places will be the most secure they have been in a long time if you're going in 3 weeks.

 

[NDPhilly]

Because all muslims are ISIS. Right.


Can you please quit being a total ahole every time something bad happens? I didn't hear you say shit when the Uber killings happened, or the SC shootings, etc. But every time a story regarding ISIS pops up, you say the same worn the fuq out one liner.

Not all Muslims are terrorists but most terrorists are Muslim.

Don't worry I'll be sure to pm you whenever I comment on threads like this in the future bro.

 

[kmoose]

I addressed this in my last post, which you completely ignored, but I digress.


Where did I not blame Trump's supporters? Of course they share the blame. I blame Trump for inciting it and not doing anything to stop it, simply because it helps his poll numbers.

Your post regarding ISIS doesn't even make sense. Blaming the leaders of ISIS is kinda self evident. It's not something that needs to be stated specifically because the entire group is condemned. They are all at fault.

You didn't seem to make an actual point in your post.

Have you been drinking this morning? dales accused you of using a double standard. I replied to dales, and said that I thought he was wrong, that I saw consistency, not inconsistency, in your thoughts about the two subjects............ and you think I am arguing with you? My only point was that for you to place the majority of the blame on Trump(and not rail on about his supporters) is the same as you not blaming all Muslims for ISIS........... it is NOT the double standard that dales accused you of.

 

[Irish#1]

Honeymoon in France, making a stop over in Belgium for some beer. Might try to completely rearrange our plans now with all the crap happening in Paris/Belgium. Nobody seems to be trying to blow up the Loire Valley.

Please stay safe my friend.

 

[kmoose]

It may be a few carrying out these attacks, but a big majority of Muslims support horrible, oppressive ideals that limit personal freedoms and should be criticized.

The World’s Muslims: Religion, Politics and Society | Pew Research Center

No, not all Muslims are terrorists, but Islam as an institution needs to make changes in order to catch up to the 21st Century. Their problem with violent extremism is just one of their many problems.

Here's the inconvenient truth of it, though..............

It's not religions that support such ideals....... it is people. If these people were Christians, they would probably find some equally extreme views within Christianity to express their hate through. People like those those KKK members who persecuted white Jews and Catholics....

 

[GoIrish41]

Honeymoon in France, making a stop over in Belgium for some beer. Might try to completely rearrange our plans now with all the crap happening in Paris/Belgium. Nobody seems to be trying to blow up the Loire Valley.

Yellowstone is nice that time of year. Seriously, be safe, dude. It's a crazy world out there.

 

[IrishLax]

Look... Islam, as a theology, isn't the problem. There is pretty much no "belief set" that inherently causes mass murder by itself. It's all about circumstance and application.

The way Islam is used as a method of control/power/oppression in certain regions leads to a percentage of the population being radicalized. Furthermore, when you have religious leaders -- like the Ayatollah in Iran -- preaching death to Israel and the West... how do you not expect some people to take it to heart? When more minor leaders preach to their followers that slavery is OK, that non-Muslims are sub-human, etc... how do we not expect some people to take that to heart?

Even some countries like Saudi Arabia that are ostensibly "allies" have religious and political leaders that preach "death to America" and fund terrorism.

So it's not about Islam, per se, it's about how these people in positions of power are using Islam. These attacks are never going to stop until these people are eliminated... whether that's over time through education or through military action, the only way this stops is if those leaders don't exist and can't drive people to this kind of action.

 

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[GoIrish41]

When was the last time the KKK did something of substance though?

Condemning ISIS is one thing, getting the crazies under some sort of control would be nice. I'd like to think there are enough muslims around for them to get these guys in line.

They seem to be reasonable folk ... just get them to see reason.

 

[GoldenDomer]

Look... Islam, as a theology, isn't the problem. There is pretty much no "belief set" that inherently causes mass murder by itself. It's all about circumstance and application.

The way Islam is used as a method of control/power/oppression in certain regions leads to a percentage of the population being radicalized. Furthermore, when you have religious leaders -- like the Ayatollah in Iran -- preaching death to Israel and the West... how do you not expect some people to take it to heart? When more minor leaders preach to their followers that slavery is OK, that non-Muslims are sub-human, etc... how do we not expect some people to take that to heart?

Even some countries like Saudi Arabia that are ostensibly "allies" have religious and political leaders that preach "death to America" and fund terrorism.

So it's not about Islam, per se, it's about how these people in positions of power are using Islam. These attacks are never going to stop until these people are eliminated... whether that's over time through education or through military action, the only way this stops is if those leaders don't exist and can't drive people to this kind of action.

Islam does not promote mass murder, but it does support oppressive ideology like Sharia Law. This gives way to an oppressed society where free speech is muffled. In said societies, progress is hard to come by, and bad ideas like Jihad can thrive.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Here's the inconvenient truth of it, though..............

It's not religions that support such ideals....... it is people. If these people were Christians, they would probably find some equally extreme views within Christianity to express their hate through. People like those those KKK members who persecuted white Jews and Catholics....

Yes. This.

 

[Irish Man3]

Congratulations on taking a tragedy and quickly making it about politics. Well done.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Scary fucking world we live in.

 

[GoldenDomer]

Congratulations on taking a tragedy and quickly making it about politics. Well done.

A tragedy, yes. Carried out by a serious terrorist organization. It's politics.

 

[kmoose]

Honeymoon in France, making a stop over in Belgium for some beer. Might try to completely rearrange our plans now with all the crap happening in Paris/Belgium. Nobody seems to be trying to blow up the Loire Valley.

My suggestion: Dump France. Honeymoon in Malta. Fly through Munich on the way, for a few days of beer....

http://www.visitmalta.com/

 

[Rizzophil]

Does anyone get concerned that news / people / countries are becoming numb to the terrorism in the world today? It's like, we shrug our shoulders and move on.

 

[dublinirish]

My suggestion: Dump France. Honeymoon in Malta. Fly through Munich on the way, for a few days of beer....

http://www.visitmalta.com/

f that shite. Go to France and be not afraid. Don't let them win

 

[kmoose]

f that shite. Go to France and be not afraid. Don't let them win

I wasn't suggesting that he dump France out of fear. He should dump France because French people are arrogant assholes.

 

[Irish Man3]

A tragedy, yes. Carried out by a serious terrorist organization. It's politics.

Politics play a part in just about everything, sure. Turning this thread into a left/right pissing match is silly. There are numerous threads for pushing political views and agendas. For someone that's coming into the thread looking for news and updates it's not right that they should have to scroll through pages of that banter.

 

[yankeehater]

For what it is worth, ISIS just claimed responsibility and praised the attacks.

 

[Irish Man3]

For what it is worth, ISIS just claimed responsibility and praised the attacks.

Shocking...

 

[kmoose]

Politics play a part in just about everything, sure. Turning this thread into a left/right pissing match is silly. There are numerous threads for pushing political views and agendas. For someone that's coming into the thread looking for news and updates it's not right that they should have to scroll through pages of that banter.

This is a message board. It is not a news organization...........

If you want news:

CNN - Breaking News, Latest News and Videos

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MSNBC: news, video and progressive community. Lean Forward.

You can't go into a VW dealership and complain that none of the models on the floor are Porsches.

 

[Irish Man3]

This is a message board. It is not a news organization...........

If you want news:

CNN - Breaking News, Latest News and Videos

CBS News - Breaking News, U.S., World, Business, Entertainment & Video

MSNBC: news, video and progressive community. Lean Forward.

You can't go into a VW dealership and complain that none of the models on the floor are Porsches.

This message board is also organized by threads so that all topics don't end up derailing into the same shit storm.

I stay away from major news outlets for the same reason so save your links please.

If I walk into a Porsche dealership looking for a Porsche, I don't expect to be shown VW when there's three VW dealerships in town.

 

[dublinirish]

I wasn't suggesting that he dump France out of fear. He should dump France because French people are arrogant assholes.

France is still a great country regardless of the people, you could say the same about a lot of places...

 

[kmoose]

This message board is also organized by threads so that all topics don't end up derailing into the same shit storm.

But you weren't complaining about that....... you were complaining that the current tone of the thread was interfering with your ability to glean news and updates from it.

 

[kmoose]

France is still a great country regardless of the people, you could say the same about a lot of places...

I'm sure it is. And I would like to see Paris. But I have been to Malta, and I wouldn't suggest it as some kind of backup to a primary destination. I think it is a great primary destination all by itself.

 

[Irish Man3]

But you weren't complaining about that....... you were complaining that the current tone of the thread was interfering with your ability to glean news and updates from it.

That is my exact complaint actually. Derailing threads over any one subject is asinine, especially when the subject doing the derailing is available elsewhere.

 

[dublinirish]

I'm sure it is. And I would like to see Paris. But I have been to Malta, and I wouldn't suggest it as some kind of backup to a primary destination. I think it is a great primary destination all by itself.

Yeah Malta is pretty nice too Did you open a bank account there, stash a few euro's?

 

[dublinirish]

Israeli minister blames Brussels bombing on EU settlement labelling

sigh

 

[greyhammer90]

Congratulations on taking a tragedy and quickly making it about politics. Well done.

What do you think terrorism is? Trying to separate a terrorist attack from politics is like trying to separate shit from sewage.