Stadium Renovations, Uniform Changes

[wizards8507]

But "new surface" and still having natural grass is a bit of a no-brainer. They resodded huge chunks of the field multiple times this past season.

It wouldn't be a resod. It would be a deep dig with major irrigation and drainage overhaul. Like I said, smart money is on FieldTurf.

 

[CHIDomer9]

It wouldn't be a resod. It would be a deep dig with major irrigation and drainage overhaul. Like I said, smart money is on FieldTurf.

Agreed. I am for taking away as many hindering factors as possible. You recruit Isaiah McKenzie to run away from people, not to be able to negotiate the mud.

 

[Irish8248]

Can someone explain to me why ND should remove existing seating and/or not install more seating or a video board so that a small percentage of people inside the stadium can see a mural that is outside of the stadium?

 

[scUM Hater]

I think the overall plan is to not just end up with a better stadium. I think, in addition to rec facilities, there will even be classrooms, if I understand correctly.

I would imagine most of construction would halt during the season. With todays advances in construction technology they could still do it though. They could get the rough structure done and have alot of the interior of the "classrooms" to work on during the football season.
Sorry, I didn't respond to the right post.
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[woolybug25]

Can someone explain to me why ND should remove existing seating and/or not install more seating or a video board so that a small percentage of people inside the stadium can see a mural that is outside of the stadium?

- Because Our Lady is part of the culture of this university.
- It is one of the most recognizable features of the school.
- We haven't won a championship since it was covered.
- It's THE symbol that represents what the university is all about.
- The vast majority of fans want it uncovered.

There are million reasons why the symbol that was the centerpiece of the stadium for the majority of it's existence, but outside of that, I hope it doesn't have to be explained on why this inparticular mural is more important than a damn video board.

 

[scUM Hater]

They have the money, all they have to do is ask.

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[nlroma1o]

The field turf is coming. It just has to be... They probably want to give it its own press conference..... It doesn't even take that long to install either. The new turf rugby pitch they installed at the north rec field was completed in like 30 days or something. It took them longer to level out the ground then to actually lay the concrete and turf.

 

[wizards8507]

- Because Our Lady is part of the culture of this university.
- It is one of the most recognizable features of the school.
- We haven't won a championship since it was covered.
- It's THE symbol that represents what the university is all about.
- The vast majority of fans want it uncovered.

There are million reasons why the symbol that was the centerpiece of the stadium for the majority of it's existence, but outside of that, I hope it doesn't have to be explained on why this inparticular mural is more important than a damn video board.

Jesus isn't "our lady." Please elaborate.

 

[irishfan]

- Because Our Lady is part of the culture of this university.
- It is one of the most recognizable features of the school.
- We haven't won a championship since it was covered.
- It's THE symbol that represents what the university is all about.
- The vast majority of fans want it uncovered.

There are million reasons why the symbol that was the centerpiece of the stadium for the majority of it's existence, but outside of that, I hope it doesn't have to be explained on why this inparticular mural is more important than a damn video board.

I think a majority of people (and 100% of players/recruits) would argue that video board(s) are more important to enhancing the stadium/game experience than a view of a mural.

 

[china423]

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[china423]

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[woolybug25]

I think a majority of people (and 100% of players/recruits) would argue that video board(s) are more important to enhancing the stadium/game experience than a view of a mural.

I completely and adamently disagree.

 

[irishfan]

I completely and adamently disagree.

Understandable.

Do you also disagree about the 100% of recruits/players part?

 

[aubeirish]

I think it looks fantastic. Nice.

 

[gkIrish]

A Jumbotron and a view of TDJ are not mutually exclusive.

 

[woolybug25]

Jesus isn't "our lady." Please elaborate.

His mother is, i'm referring to the broader message of the university.

You know... the one that in French, literally translates to "Our Lady".

Not sure what point you are trying to make.

 

[irishfan]

A Jumbotron and a view of TDJ are not mutually exclusive.

Very true. In an ideal world there would be both. I'd love to have seating cut out so that TDJ is completely visible (and have seating added in other places to make up for it), but that's not going to happen. Wooly and I just disagree on what would enhance the game/stadium experience more: an enhanced view of TDJ, or video boards.

 

[woolybug25]

Understandable.

Do you also disagree about the 100% of recruits/players part?

Sure don't. I think there are a great deal of players that come to this university because of their religious beliefs. So if you asked them, choose between the two:

- Uncover the famous mural of Jesus, so it can overlook the stadium you will be playing in.

or

- Install a video board.

I find it hard to believe that not one single recruit would choose to have the mural.

 

[irishfan]

Sure don't. I think there are a great deal of players that come to this university because of their religious beliefs. So if you asked them, choose between the two:

- Uncover the famous mural of Jesus, so it can overlook the stadium you will be playing in.

or

- Install a video board.

I find it hard to believe that not one single recruit would choose to have the mural.

Okay, maybe a couple recruits/players will but I'd have to say 90%+ would choose the video boards.

Either way, we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one

 

[wizards8507]

His mother is, i'm referring to the broader message of the university.

You know... the one that in French, literally translates to "Our Lady".

Not sure what point you are trying to make.

I'm not opposed to a stronger religious presence in the stadium, whether it's Jesus or the Blessed Virgin. However, I don't put that much weight on "Touchdown Jesus" specifically for a couple of reasons.

1. Strictly aesthetically/architecturally, it's kind of ugly.
2. The library will be due for a replacement soon anyways.
3. The building is from the 60s. It's not like it's from the Rockne or Leahy "lore."
4. I'm not convinced that the notion of "touchdown Jesus" isn't sacrilegious in and of itself.
5. The library quad is sufficiently far away where it's not like he's looking down" on the field anyways.

 

[calvegas04]

video board please!! and turf!

 

[FearTheBeard]

Ehh, when im at the game im not really worried about looking at TD Jesus, i can look at it before or after games. Its not like its getting taken out, personnally i just dont think it matters much if its viewable from the stadium

 

[palinurus]

- Because Our Lady is part of the culture of this university.
- It is one of the most recognizable features of the school.
- We haven't won a championship since it was covered.
- It's THE symbol that represents what the university is all about.
- The vast majority of fans want it uncovered.

There are million reasons why the symbol that was the centerpiece of the stadium for the majority of it's existence, but outside of that, I hope it doesn't have to be explained on why this inparticular mural is more important than a damn video board.

Yes, this ^^^^^^^^^

 

[woolybug25]

I'm not opposed to a stronger religious presence in the stadium, whether it's Jesus or the Blessed Virgin. However, I don't put that much weight on "Touchdown Jesus" specifically for a couple of reasons.

1. Strictly aesthetically/architecturally, it's kind of ugly.
2. The library will be due for a replacement soon anyways.
3. The building is from the 60s. It's not like it's from the Rockne or Leahy "lore."
4. I'm not convinced that the notion of "touchdown Jesus" isn't sacrilegious in and of itself.
5. The library quad is sufficiently far away where it's not like he's looking down" on the field anyways.

Question. Were you ever in the stadium when you could see it?

1. If it is so ugly, then why is it one of the most popular photography locations on the entire campus?
2. You don't know that it's up for replacement. The building isn't even that old.
3. While being from the 60's, it has become a symbol of the university for half a century. It saw a lot of championships during it's time. It might have not known Rochne/Leahy, but he sure knew Parseghian/Hotz.
4. Arguable, but understandable
5. How do you figure he wasn't looking down onto the field? When it was exposed it certainly looked that way.

 

[palinurus]

I'm not opposed to a stronger religious presence in the stadium, whether it's Jesus or the Blessed Virgin. However, I don't put that much weight on "Touchdown Jesus" specifically for a couple of reasons.

1. Strictly aesthetically/architecturally, it's kind of ugly.
2. The library will be due for a replacement soon anyways.
3. The building is from the 60s. It's not like it's from the Rockne or Leahy "lore."
4. I'm not convinced that the notion of "touchdown Jesus" isn't sacrilegious in and of itself.
5. The library quad is sufficiently far away where it's not like he's looking down" on the field anyways.

But the other team thinks he is.....

 

[palinurus]

Question. Were you ever in the stadium when you could see it?

1. If it is so ugly, then why is it one of the most popular photography locations on the entire campus?
2. You don't know that it's up for replacement. The building isn't even that old.
3. While being from the 60's, it has become a symbol of the university for half a century. It saw a lot of championships during it's time. 4. Arguable, but understandable
5. How do you figure he wasn't looking down onto the field? When it was exposed it certainly looked that way.

FiFy (for real)

 

[aubeirish]

The building is kind of ugly, but the fresco is great. You can't take TD jesus down...

 

[wizards8507]

Question. Were you ever in the stadium when you could see it?

No. I saw it for the first time when I visited campus in 2006 and then for four years as an undergrad from 2007-2011.

1. If it is so ugly, then why is it one of the most popular photography locations on the entire campus?

I personally find it ugly. I'm not trying to say it's objectively ugly or that everyone else must think so. Just a matter of personal preference.

2. You don't know that it's up for replacement. The building isn't even that old.

Hasn't that been rumored for some time?

3. While being from the 60's, it has become a symbol of the university for half a decade. It saw a lot of championships during it's time.

When people use the "nostalgia" argument for natural grass or wanting to keep video boards out, they're scolded to "get with the times or go post on NDNation." What's the difference?

4. Arguable, but understandable

5. How do you figure he wasn't looking down onto the field? When it was exposed it certainly looked that way.

That picture is from the upper edge of the south endzone. Anyone lower in the bowl or north of the 50 would be completely blind to that view. I'm also pretty sure it still wouldn't have been visible from the field. The angle is just too severe.

 

[wizards8507]

The building is kind of ugly, but the fresco is great. You can't take TD jesus down...

The footing is kind of slippery, but the tradition of playing on natural grass is great. You can't put artificial turf in ND Stadium.

See what I did there? What's the difference?

 

[aubeirish]

I always loved playing on natural grass, but it does look like shit. I think that if a new turf helps us to perform better, I am all for it. Otherwise, whatever. Just my opinion, though.