Spring 2021 Roster

[Dale]

Elston still using Vyper and Big End terminology. We’ll see what Freeman slips in but nothing glaringly mentioned D wise yet but also a “Rover” didn’t come up as he was describing certain recruits.

 

[Dale]

Freeman said it’s “our scheme” and he’s not gonna drop his playbook in front of them. Falls in line with what was expected I’d say, probably wants to see what he has in the spring

EDIT: Posted elsewhere but only scheme name change was BUCK > WILL

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RB was a position most ND fans were concerned about heading into 2020. It's now the strongest group on offense and they should be even better in '21 <a href="https://t.co/VNb80usDHc">https://t.co/VNb80usDHc</a></p>— Jamie Uyeyama (@jamieuyeyama) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamieuyeyama/status/1357706795435843584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RB was a position most ND fans were concerned about heading into 2020. It's now the strongest group on offense and they should be even better in '21 <a href="https://t.co/VNb80usDHc">https://t.co/VNb80usDHc</a></p>— Jamie Uyeyama (@jamieuyeyama) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamieuyeyama/status/1357706795435843584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Was it? I think WR was the one we were most worried about. But RB is certainly the strong suit this year, outstanding depth with the Diggs and Estime coming in, too.

 

[dublinirish]

per II podcast on monday Kyle Hamilton had ankle surgery on Jan 29th and is questionable/likely out for spring ball

 

[Luckylucci]

Here is a fun read from Jamie U at ISD. I'm getting pretty excited for Spring Ball.

5 Potential Breakout Candidates this Spring | Irish Sports Daily

 

[IrishLion]

per II podcast on monday Kyle Hamilton had ankle surgery on Jan 29th and is questionable/likely out for spring ball

Hot Take (?): This is a blessing in disguise. Kyle is going to be an elite player in Freeman's defense whether he's available for Spring or not.

The extra reps made available from Kyle being out are going to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more important for the other safeties that will now get a bit more work.

 

[stpeteirish]

so has there been an update with the timing of spring practice? First day, Presser?

 

[snoopdog]

If I am Patterson, you would need a dozen horses to drag me away from the Center position.
I can't think of a single good reason why Patterson gives up a position where he has a great chance to be the first Center off the board in next years draft, to a much deeper pool of Tackles who have much more experience.
Correll is not better than Patterson, so there a slight downgrade in the position with the change to begin with. So IMO, I really hope the line next year is

Baker
Lugg/Gibbons
Patterson
Quinn
Kristofic

 

[NDdomer2]

If I am Patterson, you would need a dozen horses to drag me away from the Center position.
I can't think of a single good reason why Patterson gives up a position where he has a great chance to be the first Center off the board in next years draft, to a much deeper pool of Tackles who have much more experience.
Correll is not better than Patterson, so there a slight downgrade in the position with the change to begin with. So IMO, I really hope the line next year is

Baker
Lugg/Gibbons
Patterson
Quinn
Kristofic

the question is will the drop off from patterson to Correll be less impactful than the drop off from Patterson to whoever at G or T.

 

[stpeteirish]

If I am Patterson, you would need a dozen horses to drag me away from the Center position.
I can't think of a single good reason why Patterson gives up a position where he has a great chance to be the first Center off the board in next years draft, to a much deeper pool of Tackles who have much more experience.
Correll is not better than Patterson, so there a slight downgrade in the position with the change to begin with. So IMO, I really hope the line next year is

Baker
Lugg/Gibbons
Patterson
Quinn
Kristofic

a dozen horses or one smart guy who can go over what LT's get paid vs Centers.

 

[snoopdog]

a dozen horses or one smart guy who can go over what LT's get paid vs Centers.

Big assumption that a center goes to LT and dominates enough to get drafted. Hainsey being a prime example of a player who may not get drafted despite starting 4 years at RT and dominating against very good DE's.

 

[dublinirish]

Chris Watt new OL coach at Tulane, was this mentioned?

 

[PANDFAN]

Chris Watt new OL coach at Tulane, was this mentioned?

somewhere it was...also greer martini is now at vandy with Lea as an analyst i believe

 

[BabyIrish]

Looks like Spring Practice is set to begin next weekend at some point. Can’t wait!!

 

[stpeteirish]

Looks like Spring Practice is set to begin next weekend at some point. Can’t wait!!

much anticipated..I hope they let the media watch some of it otherwise we just get whatever they want us to know with is basically nothing

 

[Irish#1]

I'm particularly interested to see how Johnson and Austin show in the spring practice. Austin might still be limited because of his foot. Anyone know if Johnson has got his ducks in a row?

 

[Irish YJ]

I'm particularly interested to see how Johnson and Austin show in the spring practice. Austin might still be limited because of his foot. Anyone know if Johnson has got his ducks in a row?

I have no idea about Johnson, but pretty sure I read (maybe Hansen) that he doesn't expect Austin ready for spring (contact).

 

[NDisme]

I'm particularly interested to see how Johnson and Austin show in the spring practice. Austin might still be limited because of his foot. Anyone know if Johnson has got his ducks in a row?

Won't see much if any of Austin this spring

 

[NDisme]

Big assumption that a center goes to LT and dominates enough to get drafted. Hainsey being a prime example of a player who may not get drafted despite starting 4 years at RT and dominating against very good DE's.

The Staff really liked Patterson as a Tackle coming out of HS and into his first year but there wasn't a spot for him. He was one of their 5 best which is why he landed at C. Is Corell better, maybe not right now but he is one of your 5 best and played well against two very good teams last year. Patterson has more position flex than Corell has so I think Corell needs to be your C.

 

[Luckylucci]

No idea about Johnson academically but he's looking pretty good. And und.com updated weights for a lot of guys and he's up to 195 lbs. Which I think is a great weight for him. I believe he was 180 when he started last summer.

 

[Dale]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/rivalsmike/status/1375634883222110208?s=21[/TWEET]

Would start at SNIPER for sure

 

[greyhammer90]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/rivalsmike/status/1375634883222110208?s=21[/TWEET]

Would start at SNIPER for sure

Uh holy shit that would make our safety position pretty pretty pretty good.

 

[Dale]

The WR depth chart I figured can be addressed as a whole outside the player threads, the staff is in a tricky spot how they want to approach transfers as they will need to do so

Austin
Lenzy
Wilkins
Styles
Colzie
Thomas

Merriweather*
Williams*
Walker*

Let’s assume the good for this season, bad for depth chart result of Lenzy and Austin have a good season and are gone:


The boundary position is rather full still depending what they start the freshman out especially. Figure at minimum Colzie, Thomas, Wilkins.

Slot and Field you’re talking Styles is the veteran……..yikes. You almost have to bring in multiple transfers but do you bring in starters? Depth guys? A mess.

 

[Armyirish47]

The WR depth chart I figured can be addressed as a whole outside the player threads, the staff is in a tricky spot how they want to approach transfers as they will need to do so

Austin
Lenzy
Wilkins
Styles
Colzie
Thomas

Merriweather*
Williams*
Walker*

Let’s assume the good for this season, bad for depth chart result of Lenzy and Austin have a good season and are gone:


The boundary position is rather full still depending what they start the freshman out especially. Figure at minimum Colzie, Thomas, Wilkins.

Slot and Field you’re talking Styles is the veteran……..yikes. You almost have to bring in multiple transfers but do you bring in starters? Depth guys? A mess.

I don't think it's that big of a mess, but more likely the new normal. After extensive research including MULTIPLE google searches over the course of SEVERAL minutes, I've identified a handful of players that are potential targets based on production and not showing up on a draft list I also found.



Stanley Berryhill - California kid playing for Arizona, 5-11, RS JR, growing into a real player that could use another year at finishing school
Jared Smart - California kid playing for Hawaii, 6'0, SR but has a COVID year in his pocket, was HUGE two years ago
Jerreth Sterns - TX kid toiling away in Western Kentucky, , 5-9 and 195 but built like a mini mac truck, super productive but lacks explosion, wily veteran
Jalen Cropper - California kid at Fresno State, 6-0 but skinny averages over 13 YPC for his career, only a JR but at Fresno surely that means he can graduate early
Jacorey Sullivan - Michigan kid working on his craft at Central Michigan doing pullups on Brian Kelly's statue, 6'2 and 215 for a little size, went full beast mode on Mizzou last weekend

So there you have it, problem solved with a few DMs and strategically dropped swag bags. I've argued since the beginning of the transfer portal that this should be a net positive for ND. Let the young receivers with bigger ego than ambition move along and fill the gaps with the veteran producers from around the country that aren't NFL caliber but sure could use some graduate work at an elite institution just in case.