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Breaking News (what a surprise)

Breaking News (what a surprise)

Charlie Strong to be fired as Texas Head Coach

Max Olson
ESPN Staff Writer

6:16 pm

Texas Longhorns fire Charlie Strong as football coach

AUSTIN, Texas -- The University of Texas has decided to fire Charlie Strong as football coach, according to ESPN's Brett McMurphy and multiple reports.

Strong will coach the Longhorns' final regular season game Friday against TCU before stepping down. He's 16-20 in three seasons at Texas and 12-14 in Big 12 play. His final game will clinch either a bowl bid or his third seven-loss season.

Strong is owed a buyout of $10.7 million for the remaining two years on his contract, a fee which would be reduced if he takes another job.

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Texas Tumble*

Texas Tumble*

Mack Brown was 25-24 in last 3 seasons, +205 Pts Diff, +1,539 Yds Diff.

Strong was 16-20 in 3 seasons, -52 Pts Diff, -532 Yds Diff.

* per ESPN Graphic
 
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NDgradstudent said:
Just remember that we lost to Texas to start the season. Does everyone remember that?
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This is true, but we also spanked Texas last year royally. You can't compare records when talking about losses and wins against different opponents. There's too many factors at play: rosters, injuries, depth, coaching staffs, team mentality and motivation, regions/weather conditions, etc. Keep in mind that Strong has yet to have a winning season in 3 years at Texas, the same can't be said for Kelly. That's ultimately why Strong is being let go.
 
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So it seems Brian Kelly is extremely high on LSU's list. Their number one target is Herman, but Brian Kelly is not to far behind.

If coach Brain Kelly goes to LSU and keeps Aranda, he will have great success. He will be battling Satan every year for SEC championship.


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Sherm Sticky said:
So it seems the Brian Kelly is extremely high on the LSU list. Their number target is Herman and Brian Kelly is not to far behind.

If he goes to LSU and keeps Aranda, he will have great success. He will be battling Satan every year for SEC championship.


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Can't imagine Herman going anywhere but Texas, so if the above is true, then it looks like he could very well be gone. The good part about it is LSU's timeline. And since we won't be playing in a bowl game, there's no reason to not to handle this ASAP. Bad news is ND isn't going to get a single look from any "can't miss" candidates, which means another shot at an "up and comer". BKv2.0. PJ Fleck, come on down! Ugh...

For the record, I am in favor of keeping BK on for one more year. Give him a chance to do this with a legit DC and let's see what's up. Maybe we'll get lucky and we'll see some Cinci/early ND BK before the admin neutered him.
 
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Sherm Sticky said:
I really don't want Fleck at this point in his career.

My wish list which will never happen: Gruden, Herman, Josh McDaniels...I can't believe I'm saying this but Brian Kelly. It's like dumping your girl friend, she starts dating someone else before you and you get extremely jealous. Even though you were the dumper.

Notre Dame Fighting Irish Brian Kelly LSU Tigers


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I like the idea of Fleck, the energy he can bring. I think he would change the culture for sure, and if this was a program where all he had to worry about was winning games, then sure. But it's not. There is way too much to take on and balance that you simply can't expect a relatively inexperienced HC to be able to do it all and do it all well.

That said, who the hell we getting? Gruden isn't leaving the booth. Herman isn't leaving the state of Texas. McDaniels isn't leaving the NFL...yet. So who else? We're not getting Saban, Meyer, Harbaugh, etc (really there is no etc, it's just those three at the top). We can pray for a Wittingham, but everything I've read suggests we forget it. MacIntyre is intriguing, but do we have any reason to think he'd be interested? What other "proven" commodities are there? Actually, many, but let me rephrase - how many proven commodities are there that A) are interested and B) ND admin would approve? I would kill for Peterson, but again - ain't happening.

Do we know of any coaches that have an ND-clause in their contract (a la Urban Meyer from his Utah days)? I'm assuming Skip Holtz, though I don't know that.
 
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I like the idea of Fleck, the energy he can bring. I think he would change the culture for sure, and if this was a program where all he had to worry about was winning games, then sure. But it's not. There is way too much to take on and balance that you simply can't expect a relatively inexperienced HC to be able to do it all and do it all well. That said, who the hell we getting? Gruden isn't leaving the booth. Herman isn't leaving the state of Texas. McDaniels isn't leaving the NFL...yet. So who else? We're not getting Saban, Meyer, Harbaugh, etc (really there is no etc, it's just those three at the top). We can pary for a Wittingham, but everything I've read suggests we forget it. MacIntyre is intriguing, but do we have any reason to think he'd be interested? What other "proven" commodities are there? Actually, many, but let me rephrase - how many proven commodities are there that A) are interested and B) ND admin would approve? I would kill for Peterson, but again - ain't happening.

Do we know of any coaches that have an ND-clause in their contract (a la Urban Meyer from his Utah days)? I'm assuming Skip Holtz, though I don't know that.
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I have mentioned this name before, but always get shot down. I guess because he had some shady situations at Colorado and Washington. Not clear on what happened and don't fully remember. But I like the guy, his personality, the way he speaks, he is very charming, etc. And the guy can flat out coach and especially recruit.

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Sherm Sticky said:
I have mentioned this name before, but always get shot down. I guess because he had some shady situations at Colorado and Washington. Not clear on what happened and don't fully remember. But I like the guy, his personality, the way he speaks, he is very charming, etc. And the guy can flat out coach and especially recruit.

Rick Neuheisel


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As far as I know, he was exonerated of all wrong doing, but I'm not sure that would be enough for the admin to look past. Hell, if we're going to go that route, let's see what Mike Leach is up to while we're at it. Maybe kick the tires on Petrino as well.
 
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As far as I know, he was exonerated of all wrong doing, but I'm not sure that would be enough for the admin to look past. Hell, if we're going to go that route, let's see what Mike Leach is up to while we're at it. Maybe kick the tires on Petrino as well.
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Lol.

Could you imagine this board after Mike Leach runs the ball 15 times in a game lmfao


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He's a 7-5 career coach

He's a 7-5 career coach

Sherm Sticky said:
I have mentioned this name before, but always get shot down. I guess because he had some shady situations at Colorado and Washington. Not clear on what happened and don't fully remember. But I like the guy, his personality, the way he speaks, he is very charming, etc. And the guy can flat out coach and especially recruit.

Rick Neuheisel
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He's a career 87*–59 in 12 years, 4 each at UC, UW, UCLA. Breaks down to 7.25 Wins, 4.92 Losses per year. Three of the four seasons at UCLA were Losing Seasons.

*Includes 5 "wins" UC forfeited for using an ineligible player.

He's also a member of the Bar in AZ and Wash, DC
 
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ThePiombino said:
I like the idea of Fleck, the energy he can bring. I think he would change the culture for sure, and if this was a program where all he had to worry about was winning games, then sure. But it's not. There is way too much to take on and balance that you simply can't expect a relatively inexperienced HC to be able to do it all and do it all well.



That said, who the hell we getting? Gruden isn't leaving the booth. Herman isn't leaving the state of Texas. McDaniels isn't leaving the NFL...yet. So who else? We're not getting Saban, Meyer, Harbaugh, etc (really there is no etc, it's just those three at the top). We can pray for a Wittingham, but everything I've read suggests we forget it. MacIntyre is intriguing, but do we have any reason to think he'd be interested? What other "proven" commodities are there? Actually, many, but let me rephrase - how many proven commodities are there that A) are interested and B) ND admin would approve? I would kill for Peterson, but again - ain't happening.



Do we know of any coaches that have an ND-clause in their contract (a la Urban Meyer from his Utah days)? I'm assuming Skip Holtz, though I don't know that.
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I'm beginning to love the idea of Fleck. He would be a 180 from BK in all regards (some of those good, some of those bad), and at this point a stale program could benefit from a shot of life from a maverick coach.

Could be wrong though, the polls show a good portion of the coaches on the top teams are stodgy and steadfast, but I also see the program name next to the label. Looks like the mavericks all pulled their respective programs out of a dark era.

Current Top 10:

1. Saban=definition of stodgy 1a
2. Meyer= definition of stodgy 1b
3. Harbaugh= maverick
4. Clemson=maverick
5. Wisconsin=stodgy
6. Washington=stodgy
7. Oklahoma=stodgy
8. Penn State=maverick
9. Colorado=DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT McIntyre
10. Oklahoma State=maverick
 
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Irishize said:
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That doesn't look like a refute. That looks like "Heh we have a game still to play lets support this team! Afterwards we'll fire his ass."

Sherm Sticky said:
So it seems Brian Kelly is extremely high on LSU's list. Their number one target is Herman, but Brian Kelly is not to far behind.

If coach Brain Kelly goes to LSU and keeps Aranda, he will have great success. He will be battling Satan every year for SEC championship.


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I believe if that that happens that Kelly would be better than average, but still not contend for National Championships.
 
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IrishSteelhead said:
I'm beginning to love the idea of Fleck. He would be a 180 from BK in all regards (some of those good, some of those bad), and at this point a stale program could benefit from a shot of life from a maverick coach.

Could be wrong though, the polls show a good portion of the coaches on the top teams are stodgy and steadfast, but I also see the program name next to the label. Looks like the mavericks all pulled their respective programs out of a dark era.

Current Top 10:

1. Saban=definition of stodgy 1a
2. Meyer= definition of stodgy 1b
3. Harbaugh= maverick
4. Clemson=maverick
5. Wisconsin=stodgy
6. Washington=stodgy
7. Oklahoma=stodgy
8. Penn State=maverick
9. Colorado=DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT McIntyre
10. Oklahoma State=maverick
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My main concern with an "unproven" coach like Fleck is not whether or not he can win games. It's whether or not he can shoulder the load that comes with being ND HC off the field. Have to figured he's never been responsible for anything like it. When coupled with a short resume, seems like a major risk.
 
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