Silly Season '13 (Coaching Changes)

[Redbar]

Anyone know where we stood with Moten prior to his commitment to the Canes?

Boy that would be worth investigating by the staff.

 

[IrishLax]

I wonder what kind of ripple effect Munchak getting fired will have. Yet another NFL job open. Is this the last domino to fall or will Miami Dolphins also open up?

Cleveland, Minnesota, and Detroit all seem to have some interest in a college coach. Any other franchises.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

This is absolutely insane. In the same season, U$C, Texas, Penn State, Miami, and possibly Oklahoma all filling their head spot? And we aren't done yet.

 

[phork]

If I am Golden, I want guaranteed 7 years, I'd want to get past the sanctions and have several years to rebuild.

Its not the contract or guarantee its the boosters and alum who want Paterno raised from the dead.

 

[connect the dots]

Anyone know where we stood with Moten prior to his commitment to the Canes?

Before his verbal to Miami, Anthony Moten had shown interest in Florida. Alford is his recruiter, and Corey Holmes is a teammate, but he has not shown any interest for Notre Dame .

 

[Socaldomer4212]

Before his verbal to Miami, Anthony Moten had shown interest in Florida. Alford is his recruiter, and Corey Holmes is a teammate, but he has not shown any interest for Notre Dame .

Oh ok. For some reason I thought we were supposed to be on tap for an official prior to his commitment.

 

[rtrn2glory]

surprised Pinkel hasn't gotten any attention for the Texas or Penn St. jobs...i don't think he would have gotten either job or if he would be interested, but he's been pretty successful over the years

 

[T Town Tommy]

Louisville fans seem to really want Petrino

Petrino and Pitino together. The women of Louisville better watch out.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

surprised Pinkel hasn't gotten any attention for the Texas or Penn St. jobs...i don't think he would have gotten either job or if he would be interested, but he's been pretty successful over the years

I dislike them, but I think Missouri is a better job than Penn State.

 

[Buster Bluth]

I dislike them, but I think Missouri is a better job than Penn State.

No way.

 

[Luckylucci]

No way.

Agreed its not even close.

 

[Irish8248]

I dislike them, but I think Missouri is a better job than Penn State.

Not even close, Penn State hands down

 

[koonja]

I dislike them, but I think Missouri is a better job than Penn State.

PSU is a top 15 job, maybe top 10. Mizzouri is outside of top 20 IMO.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Missouri in the SEC can recruit the south. I think it's going that direction quickly.

But I hope you're right. I hate them with a fiery passion of a thousand hells.

 

[Kak7304]

PSU has more prestige and is a better program but I don't think it's as desirable of a job based on the comments O'Brien made. I don't know why anyone would want to coach there unless they're a Paterno/PSU guy.

 

[koonja]

PSU has more prestige and is a better program but I don't think it's as desirable of a job based on the comments O'Brien made. I don't know why anyone would want to coach there unless they're a Paterno/PSU guy.

On the flip side, Mizzouri is comment-free because no one cares about them and they have no tradition.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

On the flip side, Mizzouri is comment-free because no one cares about them and they have no tradition.

They've been very good for the last several years. I think it's getting harder and harder for "traditional powers" to maintain dominance in this age of TV exposure. Maybe I'm just in knee-jerk mode, but I think Penn State could be in trouble.

 

[Kak7304]

They've been very good for the last several years. I think it's getting harder and harder for "traditional powers" to maintain dominance in this age of TV exposure. Maybe I'm just in knee-jerk mode, but I think Penn State could be in trouble.

They just need to limit their coaching search to PSU guys like Golden and they'll be ok.

 

[chubler]

They've been very good for the last several years. I think it's getting harder and harder for "traditional powers" to maintain dominance in this age of TV exposure. Maybe I'm just in knee-jerk mode, but I think Penn State could be in trouble.

Their historical level of dominance? maybe. Their dominance? nope. The top 10-15 programs always have been and likely always will be the same, with a few rising (florida state, MSU) and a few falling (colorado, UM) between decades. It all comes down to who has the money to build the facilities and hire the coaches to be the best.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Their historical level of dominance? maybe. Their dominance? nope. The top 10-15 programs always have been and likely always will be the same, with a few rising (florida state, MSU) and a few falling (colorado, UM) between decades. It all comes down to who has the money to build the facilities and hire the coaches to be the best.

Maybe so. I'm not arguing that Penn State isn't a better program, historically. I'm just trying to project things moving forward. Could very well be wrong. I think they'll have trouble recruiting.

 

[Ironman8]

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[Ironman8]

^ Could be big.

 

[rtrn2glory]

^ Could be big.

could you explain?

 

[STLDomer]

I dislike them, but I think Missouri is a better job than Penn State.

Missouri in the SEC can recruit the south. I think it's going that direction quickly.

But I hope you're right. I hate them with a fiery passion of a thousand hells.

Hell no. PSU is 10x the job Mizzou is. Mizzou recruits the guys Texas, Texas A&M and OU pass on in Texas. They can't even keep most of the instate talent.

 

[PANDFAN]

could you explain?

stanford's defense has been pretty damn good under his watch, with him potentially leaving that would only be a feather in our cap as we have to play them every year...obviously we will play ul but it is going to take time to develop w/ his players IF offered the job

 

[rtrn2glory]

stanford's defense has been pretty damn good under his watch, with him potentially leaving that would only be a feather in our cap as we have to play them every year...obviously we will play ul but it is going to take time to develop w/ his players IF offered the job

makes sense....thanks

another off topic note and again with no information....i say if stoops leaves, i'd go after kingsbury at texas tech....i know he's young, but he's a stud coach that knows how to develop QB's and score points

 

[Buster Bluth]

I think it's getting harder and harder for "traditional powers" to maintain dominance in this age of TV exposure.

It comes down to coaching 100% of the time, in my opinion. Every program outside of Ohio State has had eras of poor play, all due multiple bad coaching hires.

While Missouri may be in the SEC, Penn State is one of the premier names stretching from eastern Ohio, through Pennsylvania into New Jersey and New York, and down to Virginia too. There is a shit ton of talent in those states.

Maybe I'm just in knee-jerk mode, but I think Penn State could be in trouble.

Every program is in trouble if they don't make the right hire. Look at Texas before Mack Brown, USC before Pete Carroll, Alabama before Nick Saban, Notre Dame before Brian Kelly.

 

[connor_in]

Lsufreek strikes again

 

[NDbrbkny]

makes sense....thanks

another off topic note and again with no information....i say if stoops leaves, i'd go after kingsbury at texas tech....i know he's young, but he's a stud coach that knows how to develop QB's and score points

nahh i think they will promote heupel

 

[IrishJayhawk]

It comes down to coaching 100% of the time, in my opinion. Every program outside of Ohio State has had eras of poor play, all due multiple bad coaching hires.

While Missouri may be in the SEC, Penn State is one of the premier names stretching from eastern Ohio, through Pennsylvania into New Jersey and New York, and down to Virginia too. There is a shit ton of talent in those states.



Every program is in trouble if they don't make the right hire. Look at Texas before Mack Brown, USC before Pete Carroll, Alabama before Nick Saban, Notre Dame before Brian Kelly.

Penn State is a premiere name, to be certain. But the "brand" of the programs you mentioned are on a totally different tier. PSU's two national titles aren't even in the same conversation as Texas (4 national titles), USC (7 national titles), Notre Dame (8 national titles), or Alabama (10 national titles).

I'm not sure they'll be able to compete in recruiting moving forward. Doesn't mean they won't ever be good...I'm just not sure they'll be a consistent top 10-15 team moving forward. But again, I may be wrong.