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UM fans seem to be very confident in their O line and running game. That concerns me a bit with our lack of depth on the D line. If they can run we're in trouble.

Gardner also scares me with his feet and our linebackers' speed outside of Jaylon
 

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I hope "someone" tracks Gardner this weekend. those 3rd down QB scrambles were frustrating.

I wonder if we just didn't prep for a mobile QB. First time starter, how were we to know? We'd get some decent pressure and lose contain on the QB. Gardner scares me, but we at least know what we're facing this week.
 

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Do we know if Michigan still has Shembo's bike seat? Or did he get it back last year?

I hope they still have it, we need him firing on all cylinders. My pick for surprise performance of the game is Day. With all the attention on Tuitt and Nix, he's gonna have himself a big coming out party.
 

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If I'm a coach I'm seriously considering taking either Calabrese or Fox off the field and playing Shumate or someone fast at the WILL ILB spot. Basically play nickel personnel with a safety as the 5th DB the whole game... have that guy drop and shadow Gardner.
 
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If I'm a coach I'm seriously considering taking either Calabrese or Fox off the field and playing Shumate or someone fast at the WILL ILB spot. Basically play nickel personnel with a safety as the 5th DB the whole game... have that guy drop and shadow Gardner.

Isn't this the week to try either Councell or Romeo at MLB in place of Carlo? We don't need two good, athletic back ups for Jaylon.

If they've never practiced the MLB position, I get it, but I'm hoping the coaches have experimented with this more than we know.

Also - and this isn't for this thread, but since we're already in it - how in this technology driven era can we not have an online replay of the ND game already? I chose to record the Michigan game and watch ND live. Damn it.
 
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Don't even want to know what will happen here if things go south next weekend. It will be a combo plate of "lonely hearts club" depression and whiskey fueled keyboard rage. Over/Under on regular posters going on vacay is set at 4.

How did you know my pen name?
 

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If I'm a coach I'm seriously considering taking either Calabrese or Fox off the field and playing Shumate or someone fast at the WILL ILB spot. Basically play nickel personnel with a safety as the 5th DB the whole game... have that guy drop and shadow Gardner.

Ive thought of the same thing. It may not seem like a great idea but if we get to the point where calabrese or fox is getting picked on we gotta do something. Sometimes going to the extreme is required, were gonna need some speed across the field. But i feel like these coaches will get it right, we shut down Denard last year we should be able to figure this one out
 
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"Joe" will be fine and good to play. Who's that?

"Avery" still don't know.
 

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Ive thought of the same thing. It may not seem like a great idea but if we get to the point where calabrese or fox is getting picked on we gotta do something. Sometimes going to the extreme is required, were gonna need some speed across the field. But i feel like these coaches will get it right, we shut down Denard last year we should be able to figure this one out

They finally shut down He-who-cannot-tie-his-shoes after two years of getting dickslapped around the field by him. Point being, they seem to learn well from their mistakes. Unfortunately, their mistakes are usually very prominent: Domination by Navy, then we figured out the triple-option; He-who-cannot-tie-his-shoes destroys our defense two years in a row, then we shut him down; The latest mistake was getting thoroughly outcoached in the NCG, so hopefully they learn from that too.
 

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More Gardner vs. Robinson stats:

Against CMU, Gardner threw 2 interceptions. So far in his career, Gardner has thrown 174 passes with 14 interceptions. An average of one pick every 12 passes. Comparatively, Denard Robinson over his career threw a pick every 19 passes.

As for rushing, for his career Robinson averaged 6.2 yards per carry. So far in his career, Gardner averages 2.6 yards per carry.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Michigan RB Drake Johnson will miss remainder of season with torn ACL suffered vs Central Michigan, the team announced. There is depth.</p>— Tom Dienhart (@BTNTomDienhart) <a href="https://twitter.com/BTNTomDienhart/statuses/374558897643601920">September 2, 2013</a></blockquote>
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If I'm a coach I'm seriously considering taking either Calabrese or Fox off the field and playing Shumate or someone fast at the WILL ILB spot. Basically play nickel personnel with a safety as the 5th DB the whole game... have that guy drop and shadow Gardner.

The only time to shadow Gardner would be a 3rd down passing situation. We cannot have a safety playing linebacker. They'd man block him and destroy us with inside runs.

You guys are acting like Gardner is Vince Young during his senior year. Gardner is still a work in progress.
 

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More Gardner vs. Robinson stats:

Against CMU, Gardner threw 2 interceptions. So far in his career, Gardner has thrown 174 passes with 14 interceptions. An average of one pick every 12 passes. Comparatively, Denard Robinson over his career threw a pick every 19 passes.

As for rushing, for his career Robinson averaged 6.2 yards per carry. So far in his career, Gardner averages 2.6 yards per carry.

Interesting numbers. I don't doubt that Gardner is a tremendous talent and has big time ability, but Denard was an X factor type of player that could single handedly take a game over with his athleticism. He was the type of player you only see every few years or so throughout all of college football. Gardner may be a better true QB, but he isn't going to make me nervous every time he even looks like he is thinking about tucking it and taking off the way denard did. I'm not so sure what everybody is nervous about with this game. We may win, we may not..but either way I trust in Diaco and Coach Kelly to put together a solid defensive gameplan and make the necessary adjustments from week 1 to week 2. Aside from Alabama last year who nobody could have beaten in that NCG, they have done nothing in the past 18 months to make me believe otherwise.
 
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Interesting numbers. I don't doubt that Gardner is a tremendous talent and has big time ability, but Denard was an X factor type of player that could single handedly take a game over with his athleticism. He was the type of player you only see every few years or so throughout all of college football. Gardner may be a better true QB, but he isn't going to make me nervous every time he even looks like he is thinking about tucking it and taking off the way denard did. I'm not so sure what everybody is nervous about with this game. We may win, we may not..but either way I trust in Diaco and Coach Kelly to put together a solid defensive gameplan and make the necessary adjustments from week 1 to week 2. Aside from Alabama last year who nobody could have beaten in that NCG, they have done nothing in the past 18 months to make me believe otherwise.

Good post.
 
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I'm not so sure what everybody is nervous about with this game..

Could it be this?

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I hope we burn that Skunk Palace down.
 

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Lest We Forget!

Lest We Forget!

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letter from BGS to Michigan fans, September, 2005...

Dear Michigan fans,

That time of year is upon us once again, when the two titans of midwest football clash in what's shaping up to be yet another epic battle. There's something extremely powerful surrounding this mostly-annual grudge match; we fight over local and national dominance, we fight over the top spot spot in all-time winning percentage, we fight over recruits. ND-Michigan has featured some of the best games in college football over the years, with legendary names like Hamilton and Oliver, Ismail and Howard, Carter and Brooks and Mirer and Gillette spilling across the headlines. Interestingly enough, despite the proximity -- Ann Arbor is just a scant 175 miles from South Bend -- Notre Dame and Michigan aren't really the dominant rivals in each other's worldview. Notre Dame has its traditional, and longer-running rivalry with Southern Cal, and Michigan's stalking horse has always been Ohio State. That's not to say ND-Michigan is taken any more lightly by its fans; on the contrary, the emotions run just as high. But the matchup is special: I would say that Michigan and Notre Dame are less rivals and more Enemies. Bitter, bitter enemies.

ND-Michigan more often than not features a battle of nationally-ranked opponents, and often goes right down to the wire. And unlike other grudge matches that often serve as a capstone to a team's season, the Notre Dame-Michigan affair is always right up front, usually kicking off the season. A win can catapult the victor to an undefeated season; a loss can sink a team's hopes right out of the gates. Off the field, we pit our rich traditions against each other in a never-ending argument over who's got the best academics, the best colors, the best uniforms, the best marching band, and the best fight song.

In a way, Notre Dame owes Michigan a debt of gratitude. It was a group of Wolverine players who first taught the game to a Notre Dame club way back in 1887. From those humble beginnings, both programs rose to national fame and fortune. So, we give thanks to Michigan for passing down the game that has defined us so, and we are grateful.

But we owe Michigan more than our gratitude. We owe UM our scorn, for they have earned it.

A quick look at the history books reminds us why the Skunkbears have a wing unto themselves in our Hall of Shame. Shortly after the halcyon days of 1887, when players shared the game in a collegial competition, you tried to kill us. Once Notre Dame beat Fielding Yost's "point-a-minute" champions (after 8 consecutive losses to the Wolverines), Yost took the fledgling Irish program off Michigan's schedule. The humiliation ran deep; as if simply dropping the Irish wasn't enough, Yost fought tooth and nail to keep the burgeoning ND program out of the powerful Western Conference, worried that the upstart immigrant school would damage the reputation of what is now the Big Ten. Yost blackballed us, and encouraged others to do the same; for 34 years, his cowardice was enshrined in UM's schedule for all to see. Like a deranged, Munchausen-by-proxy mother (look it up), you tried to smother us in the crib when our program was in its infancy. Fear of Notre Dame was a powerful talisman, institutionalized by Yost, and the cowardice and consternation towards Notre Dame oozes out of Ann Arbor even to this day.

Yost was but the first in a litany of men of low character to hold the reins at UM. Fritz Crisler's "bias" (ahem) toward ND is well-known, and, like his predecessor, again dropped the Irish from his schedule for thirty years after a loss. Bo Schembechler sat idly by, for years, as three different Irish coaches won National Championships, while he was busy losing Rose Bowls; Bo was driven crazy with the notion that ND might enter the Big 10 and end his biannual trips to Pasadena. Gary Moeller was frustrated that he couldn't pick Notre Dame up, drink it, and then drive into a ditch. These also-rans were over-shadowed by true coaching legends just down the road from them: legends like Rockne, Leahy, Parseghian, and Holtz, who racked up championship upon championship as Ann Arbor stewed.

In the end, perhaps we do owe the Skunkbears a few more tokens of thanks. If Yost hadn't taken his ball and gone home, perhaps we would now be in the Big Ten, and our idea of football excellence would entail two or three losses per year and a trip to the Rose Bowl twice a decade. But instead, you blackballed us, and tried to choke us out of existence. You should have finished the job. We survived, and because too many teams were under Michigan's villainous spell in the Midwest, we were forced to look elsewhere to find quality opponents. And we did. We scheduled and played the nationwide champions of the day: Army, Southern Cal, Georgia Tech, Stanford, and many others. We criss-crossed the country, we were Rockne's Ramblers, taking on all comers, what tho' the odds. In doing so, we won national acclaim, respect, and the hearts of countless Americans. It was Michigan's attempt to stamp out a budding rival that created the nation's most popular and successful football program, the University of Notre Dame's Fighting Irish.

This is why we don't approach the Michigan game with the same tradition-***** respect, the pomp and circumstance, or the "contest of equals" honor reserved for the Southern Cal game. Rather, like Inigo Montoya closing in on the six-fingered man, we come with a singular focus. We are Notre Dame Football. You tried to kill us. Prepare to die.
 

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Denard Robinson is more lethal than Devin Gardner and we contained Robinson last year very well, I have faith that Diaco will be able to contain Gardner for minimal gains.
 

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Interesting numbers. I don't doubt that Gardner is a tremendous talent and has big time ability, but Denard was an X factor type of player that could single handedly take a game over with his athleticism. He was the type of player you only see every few years or so throughout all of college football. Gardner may be a better true QB, but he isn't going to make me nervous every time he even looks like he is thinking about tucking it and taking off the way denard did. I'm not so sure what everybody is nervous about with this game. We may win, we may not..but either way I trust in Diaco and Coach Kelly to put together a solid defensive gameplan and make the necessary adjustments from week 1 to week 2. Aside from Alabama last year who nobody could have beaten in that NCG, they have done nothing in the past 18 months to make me believe otherwise.

This post does make some sense to me. Two things scare me though....

1. Denard didn't make me nervous with his arm at all. Didn't have to respect the pass nearly as much.

2. As your name notes, we had a Heisman candidate in the middle of the field who could "spy" on him. He's currently in San Diego.
 
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While Denard wasn't a great passer, it's not like we could just let receivers run open down the field. We still had to account for every play as if he could pass.

Yes, Garner will complete more of those passes, but it's not like we all of a sudden have to commit more players to receivers.

I'm not as afraid of Michigan's offense as I was in year's past. But their defense worries me.
 

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It would be sweet the first offensive play to have GB and TF in the back field. Give Michigan something to think about.
 

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This post does make some sense to me. Two things scare me though....

1. Denard didn't make me nervous with his arm at all. Didn't have to respect the pass nearly as much.

2. As your name notes, we had a Heisman candidate in the middle of the field who could "spy" on him. He's currently in San Diego.

I can understand that, but at this same time last year we had a true frosh, converted RB starting at one corner, and Jackson who was still pretty green and untested starting at the other. We did have Motta (although slow), but we also had a first time starter at the other safety position. This year we know we have lock down corner, star in the making in Russell at one corner, and another guy who will be playing on Sundays at the other corner. Farley isn't as much of an unknown this year, and he held up pretty well last year. Week 1 wasn't the prettiest win, but it was the 1st game of the year and 1st time stepping on the field since the Bama game. I know logic would say the players should be hungry, but I would imagine they were likely a little tight getting back out there after the NCG. Also, on one hand people are saying the big house will be rocking and will be a tough environment, but the majority of our key players have played in these types of games before, and most importantly our QB has been there, done that and has a firm understanding of our offense. Our OL is talented and for the most part experienced. As for UM, Gardner is talented but the verdict will still be out how HE will hold up in that kind of environment. Will he be able to keep his composure, and make good reads?(something from all reports he is already struggling with) Does he bounce back if he makes a mistake early? Will UM be able to pound the ball against our defense to take some of that pressure off of him? Will their receivers be able to create separation against our two very good corners? How will the right side of their line hold up against our DL? Will their fast, but undersized defense be able to handle our OL and explosive skill players grinding on them all game long? Going back to the NCG, Bama made us look slow, but they also did that with a massive noseguard and ultra athletic 250-260 lb linebackers that only Alabama has. We couldn't just line up and move the line of scrimmage against their size and power, even though they were FAST. Does UM have that kind of strength and staying power up front to go 60 minutes with our massive offensive line? As ND fans we have questions and concerns about our team, but all in all I would say UM has many of those same questions, and much more. If they believe they don't, they are 100% lying to themselves.

Also of importance, Brady Hoke has coached in 124 games, with a record of 67-57 (.540). As much as many around here are constantly questioning Coach Kelly, the man has lost 11 more games than Coach Hoke, while putting up 200 wins for a 200-68-2 record (.741). When it's all said and done, unless he moves on to the NFL, Coach Kelly should easily end up top 15 all time in coaching victories. That doesn't happen by chance...the man can coach, and he will have his boys ready on Saturday night.
 
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