Russia Invades Ukraine

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Really?

There are dead ukies stacked up every hour

over 1 million refugees

And this?

Wonder what Trgovich thinks?

I'll DM Pete and see what he thinks about Greiner's detention. I'm sure he'll tell me he'd drop 50 on her (no free throws) even at 69.
 

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This will be the last time I post about this but it’s obvious that there is a small, but real portion of the American population that is sympathetic to Russia and Putin. It’s not mainstream but it is there and it’s vocal as well as there are those who have economic and financial as well as political ties to them in this country. Again it’s likely minority and that’s fine. Not a conspiracy. You can refuse to see this or not. I can’t help you there. I posted a video from the American First PAC conference just last week where white nationalists got together and vocally celebrated Russia invading Ukraine and the crowd was chanting Putins name. This same dude introduced MGT as the keynote speaker. If you can watch that and dismiss it then there is literally nothing I’m ever going to say to o once you otherwise.

I can’t help you see that Fox News, specifically Tucker Carleson and Laura Ingram have been minimizing, whitewashing and otherwise being at a minimum against Ukraine for years now. I don’t have the time nor the effort so whatever. But there is this
Here is the DOJ filing lest I get accused by the defenders of the faith for being biased. TV Producer For Russian Oligarch Charged With Violating Crimea-Related Sanctions. His role was working for an oligarch and setting up conservative based networks in eastern European countries like Bulgaria and Greece. He was brought on to help them set up these networks to mimic Fox’s “success”. If you think this is in the best interests of America and that he is the only one out there then bless your heart. Read the filing. He was arrested because it’s behavior that is demonstrable against the the best interests of America.

If you search on the internet right now you will find multiple articles about how the GOP is incoherent on its stance on Ukraine specifically because there are three vocal factions in the GOP. The Russian sympathizers, the hawks and the do nothings. This isn’t a Democratic narrstive lmao. It’s clearly demonstrable. Again I’m not going to waste my time researching that for you. Suffice to say Trump rewrote the GOP stance on Ukraine and has done nothing but publically fellate Putin. He can say whatever he wants but his actions were obvious to everyone including our NATO Allies. But whatever. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to rectify this picture in my head. If it’s legit it’s sad if it’s trolling is sad. But whatever.
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This guy who praised Putin at AFPAC (above) and was given a verified status on Truth App btw and it just was posted like a few hours ago. Clearly people in this minority know who he is and want to disseminate his thoughts.


I’m not going to post any and all evidence to convince any of the defenders of faith that I’m right and they are wrong and it won’t stop them from arriving on the scene to protect their faith. It’s not going to matter anyway. Ignoring this faction through is true ostrich head in the sand shit. I’m not saying anyone is right or anyone is wrong just posting my thoughts.

What is the point of this post? The post that started this discussion stated that “half the right admires Putin”. I mean I could sit here and point out all of the extremist left personalities and their crazy beliefs and the exteme nature of cancel culture and other far left nonsense, but I believe there a ton of democrats on this site who wouldnt take well to the comment that”half the left” admires the assholes who spout it…and in this instance it was stated that half the people who have a different political view admire a guy who is as we speak invading unprovoked a sovereign country and killing innocent people including children.

You guys can stick that shit up your ass along with the constant narrative that the left is so righteous and not antagonistic as well. anybody that starts throwing around left buzzwords like “whitewashing” is probably beyond help anyhow. There are many people who are “sympathetic” to Joe Biden too, and he has been an unmitigated disaster for the past year…but to think it is the time and place to accuse “half the right” of admiring Putin is beyond poor taste, and is a divisive and indefensible comment regardless of what your political leanings. If you cant see that then I pray for you my friend.
 

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What is the point of this post? The post that started this discussion stated that “half the right admires Putin”. I mean I could sit here and point out all of the extremist left personalities and their crazy beliefs and the exteme nature of cancel culture and other far left nonsense, but I believe there a ton of democrats on this site who wouldnt take well to the comment that”half the left” admires the assholes who spout it…and in this instance it was stated that half the people who have a different political view admire a guy who is as we speak invading unprovoked a sovereign country and killing innocent people including children.

You guys can stick that shit up your ass along with the constant narrative that the left is so righteous and not antagonistic as well. anybody that starts throwing around left buzzwords like “whitewashing” is probably beyond help anyhow. There are many people who are “sympathetic” to Joe Biden too, and he has been an unmitigated disaster for the past year…but to think it is the time and place to accuse “half the right” of admiring Putin is beyond poor taste, and is a divisive and indefensible comment regardless of what your political leanings. If you cant see that then I pray for you my friend.
The point is you lack reading comprehension and try to push your political leanings into everything. You took the first part of a sentence and applied meaning or “implicit approval” without attaching the second part which provides the context that it is reasonable for him to say he thinks something is smart, without feeling it is right. How is it even possible that I am having to explain it this to somebody I perceive is an adult. God help us.
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What is the point of this post? The post that started this discussion stated that “half the right admires Putin”. I mean I could sit here and point out all of the extremist left personalities and their crazy beliefs and the exteme nature of cancel culture and other far left nonsense, but I believe there a ton of democrats on this site who wouldnt take well to the comment that”half the left” admires the assholes who spout it…and in this instance it was stated that half the people who have a different political view admire a guy who is as we speak invading unprovoked a sovereign country and killing innocent people including children.

You guys can stick that shit up your ass along with the constant narrative that the left is so righteous and not antagonistic as well. anybody that starts throwing around left buzzwords like “whitewashing” is probably beyond help anyhow. There are many people who are “sympathetic” to Joe Biden too, and he has been an unmitigated disaster for the past year…but to think it is the time and place to accuse “half the right” of admiring Putin is beyond poor taste, and is a divisive and indefensible comment regardless of what your political leanings. If you cant see that then I pray for you my friend.
I’m trying to follow this word salad so I’d like you to point to where I specifically said that half of the conservatives are pro Putin or anything close to that. I’m almost certain I said nothing more than that there is a small vocal minority of Americans that can be considered russophiles and / or that they have a vested interest in Russia being a successful state. It has triggered the defenders of the faith. Sorry?. And I listed examples. I’m sure there are some leftist isolationists or former commies that are in the country too. I’m all ears if you got those handy. I never mentioned any of the other groups you mentioned because they weren’t Apposite to the discussion and I don’t do whataboutisms. Cancel culture has fuck all to do with this.
 
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Does this include accepting payments for debts owed?
I get the feeling that the oligarchs are be hitting up everyone like this soon.

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With respect to foreign policy, there's a cunt hair's difference between the American left and the right - Tweedledee and Tweedledum. Yeah there are factions on both sides that cut across the grain but they have absolutely zero power to implement policies.

We can't vote for change either. It's all theatre. The only way to change policy, especially foreign policy, is to remove or replace interest groups. Good luck.
 

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Is brittney greiner on this jet?
The last time I saw Brittney was in South Bend at some restaurant. Came out of a restroom and almost ran into her by accident. She's very tall and athletic. Traveling in Russia with any illicit drugs is insane especially with today's environment.
 

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I’m trying to follow this word salad so I’d like you to point to where I specifically said that half of the conservatives are pro Putin or anything close to that. I’m almost certain I said nothing more than that there is a small vocal minority of Americans that can be considered russophiles and / or that they have a vested interest in Russia being a successful state. It has triggered the defenders of the faith. Sorry?. And I listed examples. I’m sure there are some leftist isolationists or former commies that are in the country too. I’m all ears if you got those handy. I never mentioned any of the other groups you mentioned because they weren’t Apposite to the discussion and I don’t do whataboutisms. Cancel culture has fuck all to do with this.
You listed Nick Fuentes and his nameless acolytes at AFPAC....
 

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You listed Nick Fuentes and his nameless acolytes at AFPAC....
I provided a video and it quite clearly shows a small minority of real people cheering Putin on. Cool. Merely sticking to the facts. You can continue to dismiss it. It doesn’t matter b
 

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I provided a video and it quite clearly shows a small minority of real people cheering Putin on. Cool. Merely sticking to the facts. You can continue to dismiss it. It doesn’t matter b
I can find a small minority of real people who believe the earth is flat. Doesn't make them worth discussing or being worried about lol. Merely sticking to the facts. You can continue to enhance them if you choose.
 

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I can find a small minority of real people who believe the earth is flat. Doesn't make them worth discussing or being worried about lol. Merely sticking to the facts. You can continue to enhance them if you choose.
That’s cool when the flat earth society has Us congresspeople speaking at their televised conferences let me know.
 

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That’s cool when the flat earth society has Us congresspeople speaking at their televised conferences let me know.
Tell me, what did the congressmen say at this (apparently) televised convention?

What would you say if I said "democrats have a big issue! A vocal group of them express anti-semitic views and hate Israel!!!!11"

Honest question. I suspect you'd brush it off. Because the "Squad" doesn't represent the views of the many. And frankly, their anti-semitic views are much deeper, stronger, and more influential in the democrat caucus than any "pro-russia" movement in the GOP.
 

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I can’t believe this debate is still going, but Cack is right to the extent that regular people as well as congresspeople are somehow defending of Russia to the extreme. It’s bizarre and I don’t think it’s as underrepresented as some of you all are willing to admit. Fox News definitely plays to this audience quite a bit…
 

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I can’t believe this debate is still going, but Cack is right to the extent that regular people as well as congresspeople are somehow defending of Russia to the extreme. It’s bizarre and I don’t think it’s as underrepresented as some of you all are willing to admit. Fox News definitely plays to this audience quite a bit…
Which congressmen are defending Russia? Can you provide quotes so we can disparage them?
 

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Tell me, what did the congressmen say at this (apparently) televised convention?

What would you say if I said "democrats have a big issue! A vocal group of them express anti-semitic views and hate Israel!!!!11"

Honest question. I suspect you'd brush it off. Because the "Squad" doesn't represent the views of the many. And frankly, their anti-semitic views are much deeper, stronger, and more influential in the democrat caucus than any "pro-russia" movement in the GOP.
I don’t have to answer this for you. You can watch it at your leisure. I suggest you do and forget about it.

Im glad you feel so confident that I would blow off bad actors on the left cool assumption based on nothing but your personal bias. Nice. Also nice personal bias trying to tie me to the Squad. Totally legit and honest. Lmao. Straight up bullshit post.
 
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Sounds very impactful.

Congrats on owning yourself.
Lol. Ok I’m not doing your work for you. Don’t have to and don’t need to. You aren’t going to be convinced of anything. Especially if you had to resort to dishonestly using your personal bias to make an unfounded assertion about me in your previous post. Cool. Totally above board there.
 

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Which congressmen are defending Russia? Can you provide quotes so we can disparage them?
I have seen some politicians and even people on here say some strangely pro-Russia comments. Though I am a child of the 80’s so that always seems weird. Let me see if I can find any.


I have no problems with Russia. It'll be really great when all you old people who hate them so much die off.
Well this is a little awkward.
 

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What is the point of this post? The post that started this discussion stated that “half the right admires Putin”. I mean I could sit here and point out all of the extremist left personalities and their crazy beliefs and the exteme nature of cancel culture and other far left nonsense, but I believe there a ton of democrats on this site who wouldnt take well to the comment that”half the left” admires the assholes who spout it…and in this instance it was stated that half the people who have a different political view admire a guy who is as we speak invading unprovoked a sovereign country and killing innocent people including children.

You guys can stick that shit up your ass along with the constant narrative that the left is so righteous and not antagonistic as well. anybody that starts throwing around left buzzwords like “whitewashing” is probably beyond help anyhow. There are many people who are “sympathetic” to Joe Biden too, and he has been an unmitigated disaster for the past year…but to think it is the time and place to accuse “half the right” of admiring Putin is beyond poor taste, and is a divisive and indefensible comment regardless of what your political leanings. If you cant see that then I pray for you my friend.
Holy shit cry more. And if you’re going to @ me with this weak ass shit @ me.
 

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I’m trying to follow this word salad so I’d like you to point to where I specifically said that half of the conservatives are pro Putin or anything close to that. I’m almost certain I said nothing more than that there is a small vocal minority of Americans that can be considered russophiles and / or that they have a vested interest in Russia being a successful state. It has triggered the defenders of the faith. Sorry?. And I listed examples. I’m sure there are some leftist isolationists or former commies that are in the country too. I’m all ears if you got those handy. I never mentioned any of the other groups you mentioned because they weren’t Apposite to the discussion and I don’t do whataboutisms. Cancel culture has fuck all to do with this.
Sorry reading back I wasnt very clear that I wasn’t saying YOU made the comment about “half” of the right admiring Russia. It was just the comment that took the conversation down this path, and you began replying to my comments about it. It was post 1058 I believe. I stand behind my statements about the post being bullshit and out of line, but wanted to clarify that I do realize it wasnt you who made the comment.
 
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