Rumored Violations

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TheChosen1

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@RedditCFB: Our sources can confirm: Russell, Daniels, Moore, and Williams all expelled, all 12 wins from 2012 vacated
 

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How would the vacated wins already be determined?

Wouldn't that mean the NCAA has been investigating this? If so, we would have heard about it by now.

Who is the executioner in this case?

Like with what Miami did, I think it would be us getting in front of this and self imposing that.
 

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How would the vacated wins already be determined?

Wouldn't that mean the NCAA has been investigating this? If so, we would have heard about it by now.

Who is the executioner in this case?

The school can preemptively do it, just like they can give themselves a voluntary scholarship reduction.
 

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Sources tell me ND will move the male and female dorms at least 5 miles apart in an effort to prevent future sex.
 

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Can't wait to hear DD's father chirp about how his son was wronged.
 

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Are we vacating wins because the tutor was an "employee" and she knew about the academic transgessions? Otherwise, the vacating wins makes no sense at all.
 
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I gotta say, this kind of post just drives me nuts.

A best case scenario is that the facts aren't right and this turns out to be misinformation. If this happens, things are not better - they are the same.

A likely scenario is that we just lost 2 of our best 3 or 4 players for the year, our lock-down CB combo is over, our defensive scheme has to change, our DL is now even thinner than it was, and our only pass catcher who has actually caught some passes is gone. In no way is it possible to say that the team "may end up being better." The team, under this scenario, is much much worse.

A worst case scenario is that this shit is really bad, in which case the consequences are longer-term, the possibility of Kelly bolting arises, even wins vacated, etc. All blatant and poorly disguised defense mechanisms aside, I've got that familiar sick feeling...

This is the kind of post that drives me nuts. It is my experience in life that things are never as bad as they seem. AND, that people who reveal character flaws in the dark, and are revealed, never turn out to achieve what is expected from them. In a few cases people learn from their mistakes when caught and go on to achieve great things, but that is very rare.

And if the feeling I am getting is that we are seeing some more of the leadership disease from last years team being exposed, I cannot believe we are worse off.

So to me, turning pussy, and kicking, whining, and throwing temper tantrums (longer than a couple of minutes) is the same as encouraging these bad boys in the first place!

Fuck anyone who wants to hang their had on a dishonorable piece of work. And you and I don't know all that happened. We are still officially speculating.
 

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Are we vacating wins because the tutor was an "employee" and she knew about the academic transgessions? Otherwise, the vacating wins makes no sense at all.


If they played ineligible players, vacating wins makes plenty of sense whether we like it or not.
 

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Has anyone heard/read anything about this from anyone in the media? I find it a bit strange no one is even mentioning "some rumors coming from ND..."
 

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If they played ineligible players, vacating wins makes plenty of sense whether we like it or not.

It would only make sense if they vacated all the wins including 2013 as well.
 

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A foursome of Notre Dame veterans was not seen leaving the Irish practice field Friday afternoon. Cornerback KeiVarae Russell, defensive end Ishaq Williams, linebacker Kendall Moore and wide receiver DaVaris Daniels were not among the players who exited the LaBar Practice Field Friday.

Notre Dame did not respond to questions about their absence. The Irish are planning to host a practice open to faculty and media Saturday morning.

Players Missing From Friday's Practice
 

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Has anyone heard/read anything about this from anyone in the media? I find it a bit strange no one is even mentioning "some rumors coming from ND..."

This is such a big story that no reputable, big-time reporter is going to go public about it unless he/she knows more details. That's why small time people are all over it right now--they have nothing to lose.
 

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At the end of the day, I have to empathize with young men being asked to turn down free sex and papers.

I cannot understand how that can result in vacating wins, even if Dean Wormer's wife were the counterparty.
 
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I'd like to erase Daniels from my memory forever and always. What a disaster that kid has been.
 
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