Ronda Rousey

[GrangerIrish24]

Being famous always adds 2 points to the Richter scale, IMO.

Yup, Oprah was a 9 to me at one point.

 

[Irish#1]

Yup, Oprah was a 9 to me at one point.

You can park a Buick between Oprah's eyes. Oprah was all cameras, makeup, Photoshop, etc.

 

[ndfi78]

I don't know about you sissies, but I'm still a dude. I'm not gonna say for certain that any woman smaller than me can take me in a fight. Don't care who she is, nor would I ever fight a woman. But let's be real here, I've watched her fight and while she is an all time great woman fighter, she isn't taking any dude that fights mma.

I would happily take a beating from her though. Grapple on the ground, ya dig?

You are a fool if you think you could take Rousey. Sorry dude. Unless you are a trained MMA fighter and just failed to mention it on the board so far.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

You can park a Buick between Oprah's eyes. Oprah was all cameras, makeup, Photoshop, etc.

Money can cover a multitude of sins

 

[Bogtrotter07]

And always does . . .

 

[IrishLion]

A dude that's at least an average MMA fighter would probably be able to beat her when it comes to striking, but she could spring a surprise submission if it went to the ground.

An average dude that is not an MMA fighter? She's in better shape, she's a better striker, she is without a doubt a better technician... no chance for average, non-MMA guy at all. Even with a huge size/strength advantage, an average male would have no shot.

If you try to wind up and get lucky with a knockout punch, she'll land two or three on your jaw and you'll be sleeping before your arm is moving forward.

If you try to use your size/strength/weight, she'll throw you in a wacky, non-practical submission that you would have no idea how to defend against.

If you appear to be somewhat capable of fighting her at all, she could user her superior physical endurance to wear you down lol.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

So?

Which part is most important? "Hot Chick" or "Trailer park," really?

(Maybe you don't want to answer that; it is one of those questions that reveals a whole lot about you.)

Man, does she look like someone I knew thirty years ago!

Wasn't meant as a dig.
I knew a few in my past and she reminds me of them.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Yup, Oprah was a 9 to me at one point.

He said being famous adds 2 to the scale, not 20.

 

[BeauBenken]

More like Rhonda eRousey

Eroused?

You really think that's how you spell that word?

It's an "a", bro.

 

[woolybug25]

You are a fool if you think you could take Rousey. Sorry dude. Unless you are a trained MMA fighter and just failed to mention it on the board so far.

I wasn't aware that I mentioned that I could take her in an MMA match? I said that she probably could take me in a "street fight", which is much different than an MMA match. If you think that she met a 6' dude in an alley that outweighed her by 100 pounds, that she would take him because she has a mean arm bar, then you are the fool.

Real life fights aren't MMA. There is no ref, there are no gloves, there are no rules. I'm not talking about me personally, but if you think that all of her MMA experience would translate to a biting, choking, etc street brawl with a man twice her size, then Mr Fertitta has you by the short and curlies.

A dude that's at least an average MMA fighter would probably be able to beat her when it comes to striking, but she could spring a surprise submission if it went to the ground.

An average dude that is not an MMA fighter? She's in better shape, she's a better striker, she is without a doubt a better technician... no chance for average, non-MMA guy at all. Even with a huge size/strength advantage, an average male would have no shot.

If you try to wind up and get lucky with a knockout punch, she'll land two or three on your jaw and you'll be sleeping before your arm is moving forward.

If you try to use your size/strength/weight, she'll throw you in a wacky, non-practical submission that you would have no idea how to defend against.

If you appear to be somewhat capable of fighting her at all, she could user her superior physical endurance to wear you down lol.

Ronda is 5'7" and 135 pounds. Let's get real. She would certainly give any dude a real fight, but let's not act like her skills against other women will translate to a street fight with a bigger dude. A dude that has been in a lot of street fights and is physically stronger.

Again... your comments above are talking about MMA, i'm talking about a real-life fight. They are not the same thing. I'm sure she would do very well against dudes in the ring, but you guys are cracking me up with thinking that she can just beat up anyone, including larger men.

 

[BeauBenken]

I really want to see a Wooly v Rousey street fight now.

 

[woolybug25]

I really want to see a Wooly v Rousey street fight now.

For like the 5th time... I didn't say I could beat her in a street fight. I said I probably couldn't. But i'm really not that much bigger than her and haven't been in a street fight in over a decade.

What I am saying is that if she met a mean dude that was much bigger than her, it's childish to think that she would put the dude in sleeper hold and make him tap out in a dark alley. Street fights aren't wrestling, they aren't boxing, they aren't MMA. They are a street fight and a 135 pound chick, regardless of how badass of an MMA fighter she is, isn't just gonna treat him like a MMA chick.

You could take her though, Beau... a dude named Beau ain't get beat up by a chick...

 

[Irish Insanity]

I really want to see a Wooly v Koon street fight.

FIFY

 

[IrishLion]

Ronda is 5'7" and 135 pounds. Let's get real. She would certainly give any dude a real fight, but let's not act like her skills against other women will translate to a street fight with a bigger dude. A dude that has been in a lot of street fights and is physically stronger.

Again... your comments above are talking about MMA, i'm talking about a real-life fight. They are not the same thing. I'm sure she would do very well against dudes in the ring, but you guys are cracking me up with thinking that she can just beat up anyone, including larger men.

What is a street fight? An all-out brawl between large men with no rules?

You don't think a person, even a female who is well-versed and trained to be highly effective in many different forms of combat, could adapt and overcome a size disadvantage in a back-alley brawl?

I'd still put my money on the person that is professionally trained to exploit clumsy weaknesses and strike accurately, rather than the back-alley brawler. Even if the guy is built like a brick sh*thouse and doesn't take any damage from her strikes, I feel confident she could adjust and get him in an arm-bar or something lol.

 

[ulukinatme]

She doesn't do it for me. She's not ugly, but she's got average looks IMO. Do people find her hot because she's popular?

I'm kinda in this boat. Certainly wouldn't kick her out of the bed, but she just happens to be the most popular female MMA fighter and is dominating her league. That's a big reason she's being pushed as a sex symbol. Call it the Danica Patrick effect, if you will. Danica wasn't a 10, but they pushed her into all kinds of ad vehicles and pimped her because of her unique fame and position. If she was just Jane Doe on the street she wouldn't be all over magazines.

 

[IrishLion]

I'm kinda in this boat. Certainly wouldn't kick her out of the bed, but she just happens to be the most popular female MMA fighter and is dominating her league. That's a big reason she's being pushed as a sex symbol. Call it the Danica Patrick effect, if you will. Danica wasn't a 10, but they pushed her into all kinds of ad vehicles and pimped her because of her unique fame and position. If she was just Jane Doe on the street she wouldn't be all over magazines.

The difference is that Rousey is actually good at what she does

 

[woolybug25]

What is a street fight? An all-out brawl between large men with no rules?

You don't think a person, even a female who is well-versed and trained to be highly effective in many different forms of combat, could adapt and overcome a size disadvantage in a back-alley brawl?

I'd still put my money on the person that is professionally trained to exploit clumsy weaknesses and strike accurately, rather than the back-alley brawler. Even if the guy is built like a brick sh*thouse and doesn't take any damage from her strikes, I feel confident she could adjust and get him in an arm-bar or something lol.

Yes. A real fight, not a match.

I disagree with you that even the most well trained MMA chick is going to be able to exploit a mean dude with bigger size. Do you really think that a punch from a 135 pound woman is going to faze a dude that can take punches from men twice the woman's size? You think Ronda has ever been punched square in the face by a 200 pound man?

Unless she has some magic pixie dust that would allow her to never be grabbed by the much larger man and choked out/eye gouged/etc then I don't see it happening. Even if she somehow managed some armbar or something, the dude is simply MUCH stronger and would simply headbutt her in the nose or something.

She could probably take a great deal of men in a street fight, but there is a point where she just wouldn't be able to overcome the shear pain and brute force a much larger man could inflict.

 

[IrishLion]

Yes. A real fight, not a match.

She could probably take a great deal of men in a street fight, but there is a point where she just wouldn't be able to overcome the shear pain and brute force a much larger man could inflict.

This I can agree with if they guy is huge. But my original post said "average, non-MMA guy," so we got convoluted somewhere.

I still dispute the "probably" in your initial post though lol.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Ronda is 5'7" and 135 pounds.

I didn't realize she was that small.

 

[woolybug25]

I still dispute the "probably" in your initial post though lol.

I'm sure you're right. lol

Hard to win a fight when both your hands are squeezing the opponent's butt cheeks the whole time.

 

[IrishLion]

I'm sure you're right. lol

Hard to win a fight when both your hands are squeezing the opponent's butt cheeks the whole time.

I would name the submission that I would put her in, but I'm not sure if it's appropriate to say on IE, nor am I certain that anything of the sort has ever been attempted in the UFC.

 

[woolybug25]

I would name the submission that I would put her in, but I'm not sure if it's appropriate to say on IE, nor am I certain that anything of the sort has ever been attempted in the UFC.

I found a list of appropriate moves. Some of my favorites...

- Camel Clutch
- "Mounted"
- Bite of the Dragon
- Sugar Hold
- Bear Hug
- Body Scissors
- Octupus Hold
- Rocking Chair
- Kneeling figure-four leglock
- Rear naked choke
- Rope-Hung
- Skin the Cat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling_holds

I think I can get into this MMA thing...

 

[ulukinatme]

I found a list of appropriate moves. Some of my favorites...

- Camel Clutch
- "Mounted"
- Bite of the Dragon
- Sugar Hold
- Bear Hug
- Body Scissors
- Octupus Hold
- Rocking Chair
- Kneeling figure-four leglock
- Rear naked choke
- Rope-Hung
- Skin the Cat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling_holds

I think I can get into this MMA thing...

Stay away from the Bronco Buster

 

[EddytoNow]

I found a list of appropriate moves. Some of my favorites...

- Camel Clutch
- "Mounted"
- Bite of the Dragon
- Sugar Hold
- Bear Hug
- Body Scissors
- Octupus Hold
- Rocking Chair
- Kneeling figure-four leglock
- Rear naked choke
- Rope-Hung
- Skin the Cat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling_holds

I think I can get into this MMA thing...

One Flying Drop-Kick, and your history.

 

[woolybug25]

One Flying Drop-Kick, and your history.

 

[ginman]

For like the 5th time... I didn't say I could beat her in a street fight. I said I probably couldn't. But i'm really not that much bigger than her and haven't been in a street fight in over a decade.


So you really think you can kick her ass then do you?

 

[Irish#1]

I don't follow MMA or whatever it is called, but let's not get carried away. No doubt she is the dominant fighter in the women's ranks, but they key here is women's ranks. I don't question her ability to kick some butt, however her competition is other women. The number of women doing this has to be considerably far less than the number of men, so her competition is going to be far less than in the men's ranks making it easier for her.

 

[GoldenDomer]

I don't follow MMA or whatever it is called, but let's not get carried away. No doubt she is the dominant fighter in the women's ranks, but they key here is women's ranks. I don't question her ability to kick some butt, however her competition is other women. The number of women doing this has to be considerably far less than the number of men, so her competition is going to be far less than in the men's ranks making it easier for her.

Yes, it's called MMA.

 

[EddytoNow]

I don't follow MMA or whatever it is called, but let's not get carried away. No doubt she is the dominant fighter in the women's ranks, but they key here is women's ranks. I don't question her ability to kick some butt, however her competition is other women. The number of women doing this has to be considerably far less than the number of men, so her competition is going to be far less than in the men's ranks making it easier for her.

The point most of us are trying to make is that she totally dominates her competition, which in her sport happens to be women weighing approximately 135 pounds. No one is saying she could beat a man in the heavy-weight division or that she could beat Muhammad Ali in his prime. Of course, there are others bigger and stronger, but they have not been able to dominate their competition in the same fashion she has done. Mike Tyson, in his prime, had the same ability to end a fight almost before it started, but we all know what happened to him. Rousey, if she continues to fight, will eventually experience an erosion of her skills and her passion. But at this time, she is totally dominant.

 

[IrishLax]

Yeah, size and weight isn't completely irrelevant, but it's pretty darn close if one person is an elite, trained fighter and the other is completely unskilled.

There is literally a famous video from the 90s of a 2nd degree jiu-jitsu black belt who weighs 150 pounds taking on a ripped 250 pound guy in a "no rules"* fight and he wins convincingly. The jiu-jitsu fighter is not a Ronda Rousey level talent either... but he understands striking, and then when the larger guy takes him down (something he's virtually powerless to stop with his small stature) he uses superior technique to out-maneuver him on the ground and dominate him.

*There were some rules, such as no eye gouging or biting.