Rioting in St Louis

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Anonymous is claiming to have information connecting Darren Wilson to the Klan, which wouldn't be surprising considering that his supporter base was outed as being largely comprised of Klan members, including a couple of cops.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

People are going to be bummed to see the connection between the cops and KKK. Nothing has changed.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

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[T Town Tommy]

Title2014...

I would probably be careful putting out that sort of information on IE since it appears to be coming from anonymous sources. There are legal concerns with that IMO.

 

[peoriairish]

Define "largely comprised of"

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Define "largely comprised of"

Multiple people at the rallies for him were outed as KKK, and the comments left on his donation (bounty) page were racist as well. Anyone who donated money to someone who is getting free vacation is just rewarding him for killing someone.

 

[BobD]

Multiple people at the rallies for him were outed as KKK, and the comments left on his donation (bounty) page were racist as well. Anyone who donated money to someone who is getting free vacation is just rewarding him for killing someone.

Dude, Idiots have come out of the woodwork on both sides. The Klan is a bunch of hating morons, of course they'd show up at something like this. How reputable do you think most of the looters were? Is that a reflection of the young man who was shot?

This whole situation is sad and just think.....If he doesn't steal some cigars, this whole thing probably never happens.

 

[BGIF]

Multiple people at the rallies for him were outed as KKK, and the comments left on his donation (bounty) page were racist as well. Anyone who donated money to someone who is getting free vacation is just rewarding him for killing someone.

You don't connect the dots, you make them up too.

 

[BGIF]

Ferguson officer Darren Wilson in talks to resign - CNN.com

By Evan Perez and Shimon Prokupecz, CNN
updated 1:36 AM EST, Fri November 21, 2014

 

[autry_denson]

Please tell me which part of "I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE!" was a protest to right a wrong?

It sounds like pure intimidation and hatred to me.

amazing to me that one can focus all attention on anecdotes about the worst elements on one side of the issue and then dismissively mock anecdotes about the worst elements on the other side of the issue.

you "don't get it" b/c you don't want to get it. keep reading whatever supports your worldview, you won't learn anything but you'll continue to feel good about yourself.

 

[connor_in]

Dude, Idiots have come out of the woodwork on both sides. The Klan is a bunch of hating morons, of course they'd show up at something like this. How reputable do you think most of the looters were? Is that a reflection of the young man who was shot?

This whole situation is sad and just think.....If he doesn't steal some cigars, this whole thing probably never happens.

I have to agree with BobD on this one.

Not everyone who feels that people of color are getting unfair treatment by the police are vandals, looters, or trying to intimidate the police/that officer. Unfortunately, that is the majority of what we see in the media.

Also, not everyone who thinks the officer in this case was justified (to any degree) is a racist KKK member/protential member.

I hope and pray that the cooler heads will prevail for all sides and others will not get hurt (for any side). Whether this was the best case to bring this to the forefront is anybody's guess. Based on the conflicting stories and the conclusions drawn from multiple autopsies and lack of video evidence, it does not seem this was cut and dried and obvious to anyone other than those that only want to see there own side and make a point.

Hopefully, in the end, there can be some real dialog between the police and the public and eventually peace.

 

[kmoose]

amazing to me that one can focus all attention on anecdotes about the worst elements on one side of the issue and then dismissively mock anecdotes about the worst elements on the other side of the issue.

you "don't get it" b/c you don't want to get it. keep reading whatever supports your worldview, you won't learn anything but you'll continue to feel good about yourself.

Unfortunately, this is true on both sides of the debate. No one accused Trayvon Martin's family of being radical militants because the New Black Panther Party showed up in support of them. But if a few KKK guys show up in support of a white police officer? PROOF THAT THE COPS ARE RACISTS!! I think there is a standoff-ish attitude between the police and the public as a whole, in America. Is it any worse in black neighborhoods? I don't know. But one thing I *do*know........ many whites feel just as persecuted by the police as blacks do. Making it a race issue just distracts from what really needs to be addressed.

 

[wizards8507]

But if a few KKK guys show up in support of a white police officer? PROOF THAT THE COPS ARE RACISTS!!

The do the same thing with the Tea Party. Three racist guys shows up at a Tea Party event and all of a sudden the Tea Party itself is racist.

 

[autry_denson]

Unfortunately, this is true on both sides of the debate. No one accused Trayvon Martin's family of being radical militants because the New Black Panther Party showed up in support of them. But if a few KKK guys show up in support of a white police officer? PROOF THAT THE COPS ARE RACISTS!! I think there is a standoff-ish attitude between the police and the public as a whole, in America. Is it any worse in black neighborhoods? I don't know. But one thing I *do*know........ many whites feel just as persecuted by the police as blacks do. Making it a race issue just distracts from what really needs to be addressed.

agree w much of this. the last part is wrong, though. the issues btwn police and residents are entirely, fundamentally different for people of color, particularly black Americans, than they are for white Americans. That's been true throughout the history of the country, which is a history that people don't forget. But it's just as true now. There simply is no comparison of whites' mistrust/anger w police relative to blacks, every day experiences are fundamentally different. interactions w police are fundamentally different, for many reasons - but it's impossible to argue that they are not different. that is the empirical reality, unfortunately.

 

[wizards8507]

agree w much of this. the last part is wrong, though. the issues btwn police and residents are entirely, fundamentally different for people of color, particularly black Americans, than they are for white Americans.

I think you'd find in 2014 that poverty is a stronger indicator of hostile relations towards police than skin color. I work with a number of black professionals and I find it hard to believe that they'd be treated worse by police than a poor white man in a crime-ridden neighborhood.

Many of your posts also seem to be based on a faulty premise that all police are white. 2012 data shows that the country is roughly 72% white (i.e. 28% minority), while a 2007 study shows that approximately 1 in 4 police officers, or 25%, are members of a minority group. That's pretty damn close.

Demographics of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) - Local Police

There simply is no comparison of whites' mistrust/anger w police relative to blacks, every day experiences are fundamentally different.

See now you're conflating two different issues. Mistreatment is not the same as mistrust/anger. Mistreatment is on the police. Mistrust and anger is on the individual. If I'm a police officer and a black man mistrusts me because I'm a police officer, that's entirely his fault, not mine.

 

[autry_denson]

I think you'd find in 2014 that poverty is a stronger indicator of hostile relations towards police than skin color. I work with a number of black professionals and I find it hard to believe that they'd be treated worse by police than a poor white man in a crime-ridden neighborhood.

there's variation of course. but based on all data available race/eth is much more salient than class in attitudes toward police and the law more generally.

Many of your posts also seem to be based on a faulty premise that all police are white.

that's not my premise. not sure whose it is, but not mine.

See now you're conflating two different issues. Mistreatment is not the same as mistrust/anger. Mistreatment is on the police. Mistrust and anger is on the individual. If I'm a police officer and a black man mistrusts me because I'm a police officer, that's entirely his fault, not mine.

yes, these are two different issues. your understanding of how they differ ignores just about everything we know about human behavior.

 

[BGIF]

Holder urges police restraint in Ferguson response

Kevin Johnson 11/21/14 3:00 pm



FBI Sends 100 Agents to Ferguson Ahead of Grand Jury Decision - ABC News
Josh Margolin 11/21/14 1:31 pm

 

[BGIF]

Ferguson School District's Plan to Get Students Off the Streets - ABC News


Megan Keneally 11/19/14


School District Near Ferguson Cancels Classes - ABC News

AP 11/21/14 3:23 pm

They'll be shut down all next week.

 

[Booslum31]

Ferguson School District's Plan to Get Students Off the Streets - ABC News


Megan Keneally 11/19/14


School District Near Ferguson Cancels Classes - ABC News

AP 11/21/14 3:23 pm

They'll be shut down all next week.

This is such a shame. I wonder if they will be able to keep this fire blazing until the 2016 election and where they will place the voters registration booths this time. I want justice served here. I guess i have the luxury (I guess because I'm white) to trust the system. So many there don't trust the system. Regardless of the facts (because we won't know them soon enough) this community is going to get crazy and possibly ripped to shreds if the cop doesn't get indited. The outsiders are fueling the flames at the expense of this community. The businesses are already suffering...I guess plywood covered stores aren't appealing to would be customers. It's going to be a long time before this community heals and I will pray for them.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Dude, Idiots have come out of the woodwork on both sides. The Klan is a bunch of hating morons, of course they'd show up at something like this. How reputable do you think most of the looters were? Is that a reflection of the young man who was shot?

This whole situation is sad and just think.....If he doesn't steal some cigars, this whole thing probably never happens.

Darren Wilson didn't know he had stolen the rillos when he shot him.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

If you give money to Darren Wilson, you are giving him money for no other reason than to reward him for killing someone. There literally is not another reason to give him money. He's getting paid vacation for a killing.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Anyone who doesn't believe black people are treated differently by cops are willfully ignorant. It happens, no matter what the person's social status is. Look at stop & frisk stats, car inspection stats, ancedotal evidence, everything.

 

[irishff1014]

Anyone who doesn't believe black people are treated differently by cops are willfully ignorant. It happens, no matter what the person's social status is. Look at stop & frisk stats, car inspection stats, ancedotal evidence, everything.

Tool!

 

[irishog77]

Tool!

I laughed.

I'd rep you if I weren't on my phone.


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[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Sorry I forgot racism is over and everyone is treated equally?

 

[kmoose]

agree w much of this. the last part is wrong, though.

The last part was NOT wrong. It is simply my experience, and my experience only. Maybe it's not yours, but that does not make my experience somehow wrong.

 

[kmoose]

Darren Wilson didn't know he had stolen the rillos when he shot him.

I'm pretty sure that the dispatch tapes that they recently released show that he DID know....

 

[BobD]

Darren Wilson didn't know he had stolen the rillos when he shot him.

Actually that's wrong. They've got radio call recordings and he did know they were looking for him. They've played them in the media.

 

[Irishnuke]

Actually that's wrong. They've got radio call recordings and he did know they were looking for him. They've played them in the media.

Like he cares about facts.

 

[irishff1014]

Sorry I forgot racism is over and everyone is treated equally?

There is no way you can honestly believes this. I can't go into to more detail because i don't want to word some incorrectly. Its best off i not post after this one.