Racism

[BrownerandFry]

They were blown up by a bomb planted by four members of the KKK, and it helped lead to the passage of the Civil Rights Act the next year.
Bless those children.

Well, that's incorrect, but does it address causation and incitation?

As a member of a tribe that had elders abused by WASPS, I am concerned about two threads in the fabric of American History

WASP Prejudice

Anti Catholicism

The Klan, you may be aware has three prongs to its pitchfork of hate

Blacks and intermarriage
Jews
Catholics

WASPS hate Catholicism, and churchill hisself that
Obese
drunken
agnostic

thought the Church of England was superior to the Church of Rome.

You know, the Church of England. there are multiple theories of its origin, but one is that Henry VIII was shooting blanks. I find that plausible...


But this ANGLO SAXON thing gets tricky

No Polacks (I are one so I can say it), Micks, Dagos or Frogs need apply.

The question one might ask, to truly understand American history is

Could a candidate run on WASP superiority and garner significant electoral votes, as well as popular votes.

Well, don't you know there is a case study.

this individual, featured in our clip below achieved the following in the 1968 presidential election:

.He won 9,901,118 popular votes (out of a total of 73,199,998)—that is, 13.53% of votes cast nationally—carried five Southern states - Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi - won 45 electoral votes

I believe those five states are states which the 46th president carried, right?

And here is that person speaking about Anglo Saxon purity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C-kBVggFrs

Of course Wallace had no causal nexus to the TERRORISTS who murdered those four little girls.

"Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest."

The Confederacy, simply, was the first TERRORIST organization on American Soil.

.And if you hang around enough gap toothed hillbillies (as I have) you'll know that the idea of Anglo Saxon superioirity is a massive crock.

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[ulukinatme]

So wait...how was I incorrect?

 

[Sea Turtle]

So wait...how was I incorrect?

You weren't. He just wanted to post another manifesto.

 

[drayer54]

No comments on the white rage of our administration and generals drone striking innocent brown people in Afghanistan?

 

[NorthDakota]

Dude lives in a world where WASPS hate Catholics. Dude is beyond being helped. Forgive him. He's old...fought in Nam. But he is no longer with it.

 

[Irish#1]

This weekend the wife and I decided to go to a Greek Festival held by a Greek Orthodox Christian Church. I'm wearing an ND t-shirt. As soon as I get on the shuttle bus this old lady who's acting as a bus monitor makes a comment that I shook off as good fun. Then she makes another, but I don't think much about it. Shortly after getting there, we get some grub and sit down at the end of a table. While we're eating, this lady takes the chair sitting between her and my wife and shoves it into my wife. Needless to say, the wife wasn't happy and called her out. She claimed innocence, but it was obvious. Evidently they were saving seats (nothing was marked and no one said the seats were being saved) and we weren't aware. Rather than just saying something when we sat down she resorted to this crap. We decide not to stay and headed back to the shuttle. When we get back on the shuttle the same old lady says, there's that Notre Dame guy again. There are middle easterners in this country that don't like either whites, Catholics or both.

 

[ulukinatme]

This weekend the wife and I decided to go to a Greek Festival held by a Greek Orthodox Christian Church. I'm wearing an ND t-shirt. As soon as I get on the shuttle bus this old lady who's acting as a bus monitor makes a comment that I shook off as good fun. Then she makes another, but I don't think much about it. Shortly after getting there, we get some grub and sit down at the end of a table. While we're eating, this lady takes the chair sitting between her and my wife and shoves it into my wife. Needless to say, the wife wasn't happy and called her out. She claimed innocence, but it was obvious. Evidently they were saving seats (nothing was marked and no one said the seats were being saved) and we weren't aware. Rather than just saying something when we sat down she resorted to this crap. We decide not to stay and headed back to the shuttle. When we get back on the shuttle the same old lady says, there's that Notre Dame guy again. There are middle easterners in this country that don't like either whites, Catholics or both.

That's ridiculous. Reminds me of the time my wife was pregnant with our 2nd kid and she was at a car wash. Her clothes weren't fitting well and she threw on one of my ND t-shirts without thinking about it. I guess some Michigan fan started flipping her the bird and cussing her out and she didn't even understand why until she got back in the car. What kind of guy just randomly starts accosting a stranger like that though, especially one that is a pregnant female? Takes some real scum...he managed to scare my young daughter too.

 

[Irish#1]

Notre Dame. Love it or hate it. There's no middle ground! lol

 

[Wild Bill]

This weekend the wife and I decided to go to a Greek Festival held by a Greek Orthodox Christian Church. I'm wearing an ND t-shirt. As soon as I get on the shuttle bus this old lady who's acting as a bus monitor makes a comment that I shook off as good fun. Then she makes another, but I don't think much about it. Shortly after getting there, we get some grub and sit down at the end of a table. While we're eating, this lady takes the chair sitting between her and my wife and shoves it into my wife. Needless to say, the wife wasn't happy and called her out. She claimed innocence, but it was obvious. Evidently they were saving seats (nothing was marked and no one said the seats were being saved) and we weren't aware. Rather than just saying something when we sat down she resorted to this crap. We decide not to stay and headed back to the shuttle. When we get back on the shuttle the same old lady says, there's that Notre Dame guy again. There are middle easterners in this country that don't like either whites, Catholics or both.

And you wonder why you pissed off the Greeks.

 

[Irish#1]

And you wonder why you pissed off the Greeks.

Yeah, I was going there to pick a fight. Had nothing to do with enjoying the culture and being a little diverse.

 

[BrownerandFry]

This weekend the wife and I decided to go to a Greek Festival held by a Greek Orthodox Christian Church. I'm wearing an ND t-shirt. As soon as I get on the shuttle bus this old lady who's acting as a bus monitor makes a comment that I shook off as good fun. Then she makes another, but I don't think much about it. Shortly after getting there, we get some grub and sit down at the end of a table. While we're eating, this lady takes the chair sitting between her and my wife and shoves it into my wife. Needless to say, the wife wasn't happy and called her out. She claimed innocence, but it was obvious. Evidently they were saving seats (nothing was marked and no one said the seats were being saved) and we weren't aware. Rather than just saying something when we sat down she resorted to this crap. We decide not to stay and headed back to the shuttle. When we get back on the shuttle the same old lady says, there's that Notre Dame guy again. There are middle easterners in this country that don't like either whites, Catholics or both.

Well, don't ya know there is some Notre Dame history in this, but it both arcane and very controversial. It's the kind of stuff that people hunch their shoulders over

There was an Armenian genocide. Turk playbook, the off tackle play.

Well there was an Armenian guy coaching at NOrthwestern that ND wanted to hire.

His name was Ara Raoul Parseghian. His forebears had suffereed the stings and flight of the Armenian genocide, and most Armenians felt that the papacy turned a blind eye to the genocide.

Lots of scar tissue there.

\They worked throuigh it, and Ara, a wonderful guy generous of spirti, was marvelous at Notre Dame.

But there was a lot of stange jou jou that was going on in the late 19th and early 20th centuries in that part of the world.

It is unfortunate that you and your bride, had to endure ire from a conflict not of your making.
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[BrownerandFry]

The NFL's "End Racism" campaign will accomplish little.

That kind of messaging never works, but the NFL, and that slick Goodell may have happened upon it because it is less controversial than "black Lives Matter"

The message should be more positive, like "Better together" showing black and white teammates, coaches, in a positive light real or drawn in the end zones.

The goal is ""US" or "WE" a natural, organic unity, and that comes by contact and interaction. that is natural, but the slogan is weak.

 

[Bishop2b5]

How about the Jon Gruden situation in the NFL? If you don't know, an investigation into the culture of sexual harassment in the Washington organization uncovered a small number of 10-year-old e-mails from Gruden, who was an ESPN analyst at the time, to some people in the Washington front office. In the e-mails he called Roger Goodell a vulgar name (probably mf), had some unkind things to say about some NFL owners, and said NFL Players Association chief DeMaurice Smith had lips like a Michelin tire, which most would consider a racist insult. Gruden's apologized and said he isn't racist, but was just angry and lashing out in frustration at Smith, Goodell, and others. Of course, some (especially some media sources) are using this to paint Gruden as a hardcore, life-long racist. Given that this is the only known instance of anything like this from him that we know of, decades of NOT ever saying or doing anything otherwise that we know of, and several of his current and former black players coming to his defense and saying they've never gotten any sense of racism from him, it seems more likely that it really was an outlier and just anger talking, not racism.

Some of you may remember that a few year ago a famous radio host got fired for some angry social media messages one night where he called a black woman several racist names and really trashed her. The story was that at an event, the woman (who was drinking) attacked him and kept provoking him. He made several attempts to dial the situation down and get away from her, but she verbally assaulted him and finally punched him in the face. He left and after he got home and stewed on it a bit, he blasted her on SM, basically calling her an animal and a savage straight out of the jungle. OK, we get that you can't say that, but we can all also put ourselves in his shoes and understand why he was so mad. What I thought was relevant to the Gruden story is that the next day, several comedians and commentators were on a different radio show talking about what had happened, and a black comedian said that he didn't know the guy personally, but had never heard anything about him being racist. He said that he thought the insults were totally about being angry and hurt in the moment and just wanting to lash out and hurt the person who'd attacked him, instead of being any sort of indication of him being a racist. I thought that was a smart, insightful, and correct analysis.

One moment of anger doesn't make you a bad person or necessarily give any real insight into what kind of person you are. I can't speak for anyone else, but I know that in moments of extreme hurt, frustration, or anger, I've said some crap about those I love the most that I didn't really mean. That someone would do the same about strangers or casual acquaintances without it being an indication of what's actually in their heart is not hard to believe. As much as I and most of the rest of us are against mistreating anyone, I don't like to see kneejerk, virtue-signaling, overreactions to this sort of stuff and see someone's career and life wrecked over a relatively trivial incident, just because it's the hot button issue of the day.

 

[Irish#1]

Kneejerk, virtue-signaling overreactions is the hip thing to do. Shows you care more than most who are waiting for the full set of facts.

 

[BrownerandFry]

Kneejerk, virtue-signaling overreactions is the hip thing to do. Shows you care more than most who are waiting for the full set of facts.

Michelin lipped JonBoy Gruden says

"I am not a racist."

So I need to get a press pass for the Raiders.

and Here's the question I would pose to JonBoy:

"When you said DeMaurice Smith had lips like a Michelin tire,." Mr. Iamnotaracist Gruden, were you referrring to the

circumference
radius
or density (thicknbess) of the rubber

I am fairly certain that I can get the press pass as one of my base camps in Vietnam was in the Michelin rubber plantation at Lai Khe.

rubber trees, when we stood down were fairly cool, and cooling!

 

[TorontoGold]

Cancel culture strikes again! Wokie leftist Mark Davis ruins football. Typical virtue signalling move. Who hasn't said those things in emails?

 

[BrownerandFry]

Cancel culture strikes again! Wokie leftist Mark Davis ruins football. Typical virtue signalling move. Who hasn't said those things in emails?

Fascinating.

DAvis did not fire Gruden

Gruden fired himself.


Second, there is scuttlebutt in Vegas about whether or not Mark Davis is Al Davis son. I don't know, do you have the DNA test?.

Mark seems to struggle tonsorially. It was said of the old man, however, and brilliantly "Al Davis knows the serial number of the unknown soldier.".

You know the origin story, right? These emails surfaced how, and as collateral in what investigation?

Keep diggin, it is hidden in plain sight.

And, oh, on cancel culture, I'll get back to you.

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[Irish#1]

You're kidding yourself if you think Gruden really resigned. Technically he did, but he was encouraged to do so or face a more embarrassing fate. You are correct, there is more to come out of Washington. Don't be surprised if Snyder becomes a "former owner".

 

[Wild Bill]

You're kidding yourself if you think Gruden really resigned. Technically he did, but he was encouraged to do so or face a more embarrassing fate. You are correct, there is more to come out of Washington. Don't be surprised if Snyder becomes a "former owner".

Would be an absolute tragedy if they forced him into accepting 5 billion for the team.

 

[NEIIrish]

Would be an absolute tragedy if they forced him into accepting 5 billion for the team.

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[NorthDakota]

Would be an absolute tragedy if they forced him into accepting 5 billion for the team.

Is that the value the NFL is required to pay to defrock an owner?

I know the franchises are worth obscene amounts but lol wild.

I like Dan Snyder if only for the fact so many people hate him. But that franchise is a disaster lol. Might be better if he is gone.

 

[Bishop2b5]

You're kidding yourself if you think Gruden really resigned. Technically he did, but he was encouraged to do so or face a more embarrassing fate. You are correct, there is more to come out of Washington. Don't be surprised if Snyder becomes a "former owner".

I assume is this was a negotiated resignation. If Gruden refused to resign and forced them to fire him, he'd have a case that they owed him for the balance of his contract. They'd argue they'd fired him for cause and the whole thing would be settled in court and be expensive. SOP here is they negotiate a reasonable settlement and he resigns, with them agreeing to pay him part of his contract. They get it over with quickly and minimize damages and risk. Fairly common in the coaching business.

 

[Irish#1]

I assume is this was a negotiated resignation. If Gruden refused to resign and forced them to fire him, he'd have a case that they owed him for the balance of his contract. They'd argue they'd fired him for cause and the whole thing would be settled in court and be expensive. SOP here is they negotiate a reasonable settlement and he resigns, with them agreeing to pay him part of his contract. They get it over with quickly and minimize damages and risk. Fairly common in the coaching business.

No doubt it was a negotiated settlement. My point was he accepts the settlement that allows him to save face by resigning rather than fighting it and spending a ton of his money. He's rich, but I imagine the Raiders have deeper pockets and insurance to help cover these type of things.

 

[Irish#1]

Is that the value the NFL is required to pay to defrock an owner?

I know the franchises are worth obscene amounts but lol wild.

I like Dan Snyder if only for the fact so many people hate him. But that franchise is a disaster lol. Might be better if he is gone.

Listing to Fox Sports this morning, you might change you opinion of Snyder if more comes out. lol

 

[Bishop2b5]

And on a different note, sometimes it's not all bad news when it comes to race relations.

Moments after homecoming queen win, Mississippi teen gives up crown in ‘selfless’ act (msn.com)

Black Mississippi Homecoming Queen Gives Away Crown to Honor Fellow Nominee’s Late Mother - Black Media Daily

Why MS teen gave up crown after winning homecoming queen | The Kansas City Star

About 3 weeks ago in a small Mississippi town, a black girl was elected homecoming queen and one of the senior attendants was a white girl. The white girl's mom had been a popular administrator at the school and had been battling cancer. She passed away on the morning of the homecoming game, but had made her daughter promise to attend the game and be part of the homecoming festivities. Upon being crowned, the black homecoming queen gave her crown to the white girl and placed it on her head, then told her she loved her and was sorry about her mom. I'll bet you there wasn't a dry eye in the stadium. Normal, positive interactions are a LOT more common than bad ones between the races. They just don't get as much attention in the media.

 

[Irish#1]

That's what it's all about.

 

[Bishop2b5]

NCAA task force recommends removing minimum standardized test scores in effort to advance racial equity (espn.com)

How in the hell is this not demeaning and counterproductive to Blacks? It says to Black teens, "You aren't able to compete academically or intellectually and get into college, so we'll lower the admissions standards or do away with them entirely so that you can." This is insulting and belittling. You help people succeed by helping them improve, not by lowering the bar.

 

[drayer54]

NCAA task force recommends removing minimum standardized test scores in effort to advance racial equity (espn.com)

How in the hell is this not demeaning and counterproductive to Blacks? It says to Black teens, "You aren't able to compete academically or intellectually and get into college, so we'll lower the admissions standards or do away with them entirely so that you can." This is insulting and belittling. You help people succeed by helping them improve, not by lowering the bar.

No different than not prosecuting minor crimes and removing AP courses from schools for the equity goals. It’s insanity.

 

[BrownerandFry]

A voice from Alabama, Billy Field

https://www.al.com/opinion/2021/09/alabama-its-time-for-our-children-to-be-taught-the-truth.html

 

[drayer54]

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Am I duty-bound as a white man to vote a certain way too?