Quarterback Situation

[Old Man Mike]

My guesses are both soon and never. Kelly is a strong decision-maker. He'll get a favorite in the spring and give that guy the most attention especially reps-wise. But Kelly also keeps his eyes on everyone else and they know that the "next guy in" could be at their position even if they're healthy. That happened in an manner of seeing it with Carlo and Brian Smith late even after Carlo came back. Watt came very close to doing it with Stewart. Motta essentially jumped Slaughter and stayed there even when Jamoris came back healthier.

Kelly's not a hard-fixed mentality. The main thing he talked about in general team terms after the successful recruiting season was "this gives us the competition we need" within the team. Admittedly QB is usually different in terms of how most coaches view stability, but Kelly breaks the mold on almost everything so unless one guy is far superior, I'd expect to see some competition continuously.

 

[irish1958]

I don't think Crist will be healthy enough during spring practice to be given the starting role (and at the same time I don't think you can take it away from him- for this same reason). So although I hate having this uncertainty, I think it'll last through fall practice as well. When do you guys think the QB situation will be settled?

Nobody can take away from you something you don't have, i.e. a lock on a position. I trust Kelly will play the best QB for his offense. I can't believe that Kelly will play someone just "because that is his position," and let someone who is better sit on the bench.
I think this holds true for all positions on the team. That is what one means when you are talking about competition for the team positions.
I think Weis had locks on positions which is what you do in the pros. That works great for developed players, but not so good for developing players.
This is one difference between a pro-style coach and a college-style coach.

 

[irish4ever]

I love Crist as a pro style QB. He could be one of the best in college FB. But the spread offense is not his cup of tea, and his best bet is to transfer. Even if he starts, he'll damage his draft stock.

Rees has to be considered. He is smallish but those QBs do well in the spread and in college football. Rees has already proven to be a winner.

The rest are inexperienced and probably don't get a realistic shot until next year.

Montana is a drop back QB also, he and Crist could be starters on the right team at a lot of other schools.

I doubt that Montana could be a starter on a LOT of other schools. Sorry, but he is NOT that good! Shall we replay the highlights from the scUM game (please say no)?

 

[Riddickulous]

I doubt that Montana could be a starter on a LOT of other schools. Sorry, but he is NOT that good! Shall we replay the highlights from the scUM game (please say no)?

He couldn't win the starting job in high school or at community college, so I agree that this guy's comment is way offbase.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

By this logic, Rees is a lock with a 4-0 record in games started versus Crist's 4-5 record in games started.

As far as ERA's, Rees gets the edge, as well, with a QB Efficiency of 132.01 versus Crist's QB Eff of 129.34. Not bad considering Rees was a Rookie and '10 was Crist's 3rd year at ND.



And yes, Rees QB EFF of 103.49 was less than impressive against Southern Cal. It was all of 0.26 worse than Crist's stellar 103.75 against B.C.


And Rees didn't have Allen in his backfield nor Rudolph AND Ragone at TE. He didn't have much of Riddick or T.J Jones in those last 4 games which makes him pretty smart to be looking for Floyd. Kamara and Toma were his other WR starters, who would you be looking for?

Rees' Defense lacked Ian Williams and Calabrese as starters as well.

I love all of you guys. Really. But a baseball analogy. I thought the conversation was football. See here is the problem: A) They cut Rees package, while they through Crist to the wolves (they new they had to do anything to win down the stretch); The defense decided to kick major mahone, and it had nothing to do with the quarterback situation.

I wish the best for Dayne, but a patelar tendon, well it would take something heroic to come back to form from that . . .

I believe two things about qb @ ND: We haven't seen next year's starter yet, and more than one, (or maybe two) will play. Kelly is creating another preperation nightmare. Who do you prepare for, the "run-it-down-your-throat" team, or the "spread oriented, quick-strike" team?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

PS. All of your facts are wrong about Nate. He didn't start playing seriously until he was a senior in high school. You try cracking one of the most established hs programs in the nation at quarteback. He has played catch-up ever since. I think the guy deserves everyones respect, because he has showed heart. He could have sit back, quit, or done any one of a number of other things. But he has always given it his best.

 

[Rocket89]

PS. All of your facts are wrong about Nate. He didn't start playing seriously until he was a senior in high school. You try cracking one of the most established hs programs in the nation at quarteback. He has played catch-up ever since. I think the guy deserves everyones respect, because he has showed heart. He could have sit back, quit, or done any one of a number of other things. But he has always given it his best.

To play Devil's Advocate if I may:

Transferring TWICE out of Notre Dame doesn't constitute quitting?

 

[Veer option]

the "run-it-down-your-throat" team, or the "spread oriented, quick-strike" team?

Would prefer both types of offenses.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogtrotter07
PS. All of your facts are wrong about Nate. He didn't start playing seriously until he was a senior in high school. You try cracking one of the most established hs programs in the nation at quarterback. He has played catch-up ever since. I think the guy deserves everyone’s respect, because he has showed heart. He could have sit back, quit, or done any one of a number of other things. But he has always given it his best.

To play Devil's Advocate if I may:

Transferring TWICE out of Notre Dame doesn't constitute quitting?

Depends.

What's your perspective? What's your goal?

I see a young man who decided to do what he wanted to do about six years later than his peers. So if your goal is just to play, and excel at your craft, no.

If you are a scholarship player, one transfer out constitutes quitting.

I think the Montana's situation eludes our descriptions and definitions, and I think they probably are not concerned with our opinions. I liked Nate's performance in two Spring Games. And I think riding him to hard for Michigan is weak because I do not believe he was prepared (by others) to succeed in the game. That's all.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Nate's fine. Let him go. Let him pursue his dream everybody. How many of us could have been on the field at QB for Notre Dame?? AND, he didn't embarrass himself nor us. God bless you Nate, and I hope you get a chance to play. Go Grizzlies!

 

[rtrn2glory]

He obviously has all the connections he will ever need with his name when he graduates. Sure a degree from ND would help, but he's been blessed to be in a pretty good situation. Go play and have fun being a college athlete.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

Hendrix: Dude sounds like a grown *** man


YouTube - Notre Dame 2011 Spring Football: Andrew Hendrix, April 2

 

[SLCIRISH]

Hendrix: Dude sounds like a grown *** man


YouTube - Notre Dame 2011 Spring Football: Andrew Hendrix, April 2

I think he will be the starter against S. Florida.

 

[irishfan]

I've got Crist starting barring an injury. Pretty excited that regardless of who is starting, our QB play is just about guaranteed to be better than last year.

 

[IrishLax]

Crist is going to start.

 

[NDinFL]

I think he will be the starter against S. Florida.

I've been on the bandwagon with this too... Go Andrew!

 

[SLCIRISH]

I've got Crist starting barring an injury. Pretty excited that regardless of who is starting, our QB play is just about guaranteed to be better than last year.

If Crist starts, it means that he is head and shoulders above the rest.

 

[NDbrbkny]

I think christ will start unless he blows up

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

I think christ will start unless he blows up

I hope Christ doesn't blowup. Who would be the Son of God?

But seriously,

I think Crist is our best QB by quite a bit at this point.

 

[NDinFL]

You mean physically explode?

 

[johnnykillz]

You mean physically explode?

Wow. Bad joke. I think.

As in every possible ligament or tendon in his body burst?

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Wow. Bad joke. I think.

As in every possible ligament or tendon in his body burst?

Spontaneous combustion. Poof, he gone.

 

[Senoj13]

I think Crist will start, but Hendrix better keep his helment on.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

I think Crist will start, but Hendrix better keep his helment on.

I think it has been pretty well established that Hendrix will see the field for certain packages. If Crist goes down I don't think Andrew steps in as the starter though. Rees is a proven reliable back up and he would taken over as starter... I think.

 

[DillonHall]

I think it has been pretty well established that Hendrix will see the field for certain packages. If Crist goes down I don't think Andrew steps in as the starter though. Rees is a proven reliable back up and he would taken over as starter... I think.

Yeah, definitely. In a way, there are two separate QB competitions going on (Crist vs. Rees and Hendrix vs. Golson).

 

[anarin]

It will play out like it should, crist will have every chance to win it, rees will be the serviceable backup looking over his shoulder to hendrix.

I dont think golson will see the field this year, unless he comes in due to injury or some special package.

 

[DaBLKIrishman]

It's Crist job hands down as long as he can stay healthy. I think Hendrix will see the field in every game as a situational QB kind of like Collaros at Cinnci and Golson may get a package to run as well because of his playmaking ability with his feet. Rees will be 4th string in my opinion. I know he was undefeated as a starter but he just has to many flaws that can be exploited. He is not very athletic and has inadequate arm strength. Let's be honest he would've had like 5 INTs against USC if they could catch.

 

[NDbrbkny]

noo blow up as in get injured seriously

 

[TDHeysus]

I've got Crist starting barring an injury.......

I think he will start as well....but I think hendrix and golson will see action. and if crist gets hurt, Rees will be the starter with the other 2 guys still getting their reps. Almost like 2 offenses, one pro-style, one BK-style. If that were the case, it would take a dynamic defense to be able to defend what the offense could do.

 

[NDinFL]

Wow. Bad joke. I think.

As in every possible ligament or tendon in his body burst?

lol..... I was just being a smartass