Protest Erupts In Charlotte

[Wild Bill]

His former employees said that he did.



Then you also have the comments he made about black people counting his money back in the 1990's.


Could he have changed since then, sure anything is possible but his statements during his campaign don't give me much hope.

It's still a mere allegation and it doesn't persuade me. Reasonable minds could disagree, though.

 

[Irish YJ]

I'm confused why people believe he wasn't armed when cops recovered a weapon and are on video telling him repeatedly to drop it. What evidence is there that he DIDN'T have a gun besides his wife's statement? Which, like "hands up, don't shoot," is probably a lie.

and what does she mean when she keeps saying "Keith, don't you do it. Keith, don't do it."

 

[IrishBroker]

His former employees said that he did.



Then you also have the comments he made about black people counting his money back in the 1990's.


Could he have changed since then, sure anything is possible but his statements during his campaign don't give me much hope.

Trump didn't say that particular quote is what he meant by "what he said about me is probably true"..it's an entire book.

Taken out of context, to say the least as O'Donnell is an ADMITTED disgruntled employee, who only has his account of the conversation. Not one other person has authenticated it, nor dealt with anything else like it.

If you buy into what every disgruntled employee has to say about their former boss...lets drag out what former staffers have said about Hilldabeast during her time in the white house, shall we?

 

[IrishLax]

and what does she mean when she keeps saying "Keith, don't you do it. Keith, don't do it."

Yup, like what is she imploring him not to do? If he's just acting normal holding a book as the (liar) narrative purports, none of the video makes sense. If he has a gun and is refusing to comply, the entire video makes sense.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

It's still a mere allegation and it doesn't persuade me. Reasonable minds could disagree, though.

Funny how with Trump everything is a mere allegation; with Clinton it is a fact. Trump's Foundation has actually broken the law, (clear evidence exists); Clinton's foundation looks to have provided access to contributors, which has been ameliorated by a case that has come before the Roberts Supreme Court, when they said clearly that providing access is not corruption.

Even then, Hillary has never done the kinds of things Donald has.

You know what I think it is?

If a man does it he is a shark, a hardnosed businessman. If a woman does it she is a bitch.

By the way has anyone else seen the wife's video of the shooting? From her video you really can't see the situation, but the police made a decision to immediately make a forced entry of the vehicle that the shooting victim had locked himself in.

Maybe someone more practiced could comment on this, but what is the reason for immediately trying to smash in the window and gain entry to the vehicle? If he had a gun and wasn't immediately pointing it at someone, wouldn't they try to talk him down? Let alone if they weren't sure if it was a gun?

And on that subject, I understand why official video may not be released. But why not show a picture of the gun he had in his hand, if he in deed had one?

 

[wizards8507]

Funny how with Trump everything is a mere allegation; with Clinton it is a fact. Trump's Foundation has actually broken the law, (clear evidence exists); Clinton's foundation looks to have provided access to contributors, which has been ameliorated by a case that has come before the Roberts Supreme Court, when they said clearly that providing access is not corruption.

The difference between the Trump foundation and the Clinton foundation is not in how provable each one is, it's how severe each one is. Trump, at worst, owes some back taxes and IRS penalties. Hillary, at worst, took bribes from foreign leaders and jeopardized national security.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

You still haven't provided a single shred of evidence that Donald Trump is racist other than the fact that David Duke supports him. David Duke might like The Beatles too, but that doesn't make Sir Paul racist.

Do you really need me to provide examples of Trump being a racist? Have you not been paying attention for the last year .... the last 30 years? Read back though the thread, man. The dude is a racist. He has the alt right. idiot from Breitbart running his campaign, for Christ sakes.

Don't pay attention to the color of the horse.

The difference between the Trump foundation and the Clinton foundation is not in how provable each one is, it's how severe each one is. Trump, at worst, owes some back taxes and IRS penalties. Hillary, at worst, took bribes from foreign leaders and jeopardized national security.

You are fucking kidding me, right? The Trump foundation was caught trying to bribe a public official, to keep them from bringing criminal charges against Trump.

Everything that has come to light with the Clinton Foundation has served only to provide masturbatory content for ardent conspiracy theorists.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Yup, like what is she imploring him not to do? If he's just acting normal holding a book as the (liar) narrative purports, none of the video makes sense. If he has a gun and is refusing to comply, the entire video makes sense.

He was on meds. He had just taken them.

Maybe, and this doesn't take a stretch, he was going to kill himself.

Do I think that is it? How would I know! But it makes just as much sense when plugged in as anything else.

She could have been talking about him resisting, Because it seems at one point he was out of the truck walking back and forth.

Point is, nothing I have seen leads me to believe that he had to be shot after his window was breeched.

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Here is the video, don't pay attention to the voice over, nothing the narrator says is accurate. This was an Ohio State Highway Patrol sniper. These guys can put a round through their own expended casings! But even for police forces that don't have that kind of resource, there are other options.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Holy shit. That was A) 1973 and B) settled out of court with no decision of guilt. If that's how you define racism, fine. Trump is a racist. However, if that's your definition of racist, Mrs. Clinton is far worse than a racist.

Nothing in your post is accurate.

Except the one incredible conflation of unrelated, and unsubstantiated facts that you imply with your closing statement.

 

[Wild Bill]

Funny how with Trump everything is a mere allegation; with Clinton it is a fact. Trump's Foundation has actually broken the law, (clear evidence exists); Clinton's foundation looks to have provided access to contributors, which has been ameliorated by a case that has come before the Roberts Supreme Court, when they said clearly that providing access is not corruption.

Even then, Hillary has never done the kinds of things Donald has.

You know what I think it is?

If a man does it he is a shark, a hardnosed businessman. If a woman does it she is a bitch.

I'm deplorable.

 

[IrishBroker]

He was on meds. He had just taken them.

Maybe, and this doesn't take a stretch, he was going to kill himself.

Do I think that is it? How would I know! But it makes just as much sense when plugged in as anything else.

She could have been talking about him resisting, Because it seems at one point he was out of the truck walking back and forth.

Point is, nothing I have seen leads me to believe that he had to be shot after his window was breeched.

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Here is the video, don't pay attention to the voice over, nothing the narrator says is accurate. This was an Ohio State Highway Patrol sniper. These guys can put a round through their own expended casings! But even for police forces that don't have that kind of resource, there are other options.

There always seems to be "other options" when it's not you confronting someone with a gun.

Very convenient position for us in the peanut gallery to take. Myself included. I can't imagine having to deal with those kinds of decisions.

BTW- cops have families they'd like to go home too as well.

 

[Irish YJ]

Everything that has come to light with the Clinton Foundation has served only to provide masturbatory content for ardent conspiracy theorists.

Come on Bogs. Masturbatory? The Clintons went straight up double penetration porn with their foundation. Both sides are as crooked as the day is long. The Clintons just do a better job hiding things, spinning things, using their power to sidestep things....

The Six Clinton Foundation Scandals Everyone Needs to Know | Observer

Sure the above is slanted, but can you pass the red faced test and say it is all on the up and up... Add in the long history of the Clintons and Walmart (which even Berndog leveraged) and it's clear she's at minimum as disgusting as Trumpers, if not more. Nobody denies that Trump is a POS, but Hilldog, her husband, and their foundation are easily on the same level as anything in Trumps closet.

#EveryoneSucks2016

Edit PS... Trump bribing.... He should have have taken a hint from Hilary and called it a donation, speaking, or access fee.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Maybe Hillary isn't the only person that didn't know what (C) meant.

C is for cookie. That's good enough for me.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

He was on meds. He had just taken them.

Maybe, and this doesn't take a stretch, he was going to kill himself.

Do I think that is it? How would I know! But it makes just as much sense when plugged in as anything else.

She could have been talking about him resisting, Because it seems at one point he was out of the truck walking back and forth.

Point is, nothing I have seen leads me to believe that he had to be shot after his window was breeched.

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Here is the video, don't pay attention to the voice over, nothing the narrator says is accurate. This was an Ohio State Highway Patrol sniper. These guys can put a round through their own expended casings! But even for police forces that don't have that kind of resource, there are other options.

Lol sorry but I don't believe for a second that he was trying to shoot the gun out of his hand intentionally. That may be the outcome but I doubt that was the intent. Other options? Like what? When a cop is on a car stop and the suspect has a gun- what's he supposed to do? Call a sniper to shoot the gun out of the suspects hand? That's not a realistic option. I don't think you've ever dealt with someone holding a gun. There really aren't many options. You tell him to drop it so many times and depending what he's doing with it in his hand, most of the time there is only one options if the gun is pointed at cops or innocent people or even moving erratically all over the place the cop has to act.

I'm curious- what options are available for cops who have a suspect with a gun who's not listening to commands, pointing it people or erratically moving it around in his hand?

 

[Irish YJ]

I'm deplorable.

Hey, Bogs still believes Bill never had sexual relations with Monica. Just an allegation (I keed Bogs

 

[kmoose]

Lol sorry but I don't believe for a second that he was trying to shoot the gun out of his hand intentionally. That may be the outcome but I doubt that was the intent. Other options? Like what? When a cop is on a car stop and the suspect has a gun- what's he supposed to do? Call a sniper to shoot the gun out of the suspects hand? That's not a realistic option. I don't think you've ever dealt with someone holding a gun. There really aren't many options. You tell him to drop it so many times and depending what he's doing with it in his hand, most of the time there is only one options if the gun is pointed at cops or innocent people or even moving erratically all over the place the cop has to act.

I'm curious- what options are available for cops who have a suspect with a gun who's not listening to commands, pointing it people or erratically moving it around in his hand?

NINJAS!!

 

[Irish Insanity]

NINJAS!!

#Racist

They wear black outfits and black belts.

 

[Irish YJ]

#Racist

They wear black outfits and black belts.

#BlackBeltsMatter

 

[Irish YJ]

Reported that the gun found is confirmed to have the Scott's fingerprints on it.

 

[BGIF]

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You know what I think it is?

If a man does it he is a shark, a hardnosed businessman. If a woman does it she is a bitch.

...

Playing the sexist card again. Debbie Wasserman Bogtrotter.

 

[BGIF]

Reported that the gun found is confirmed to have the Scott's fingerprints on it.

Reported where?

Put up a cite.

 

[GoIrish41]

Reported where?

Put up a cite.

On IE. Two posts up from yours. lol

 

[BGIF]

On IE. Two posts up from yours. lol

My post was #261. "Two posts up from yours," is #259 THE ONE I quoted directly and the one without a cite. Two posts prior to that one is about a different topic.

 

[GoIrish41]

My post was #261. "Two posts up from yours," is #259 THE ONE I quoted directly and the one without a cite. Two posts prior to that one is about a different topic.

I can't count!

 

[kmoose]

Reported where?

Put up a cite.

Keith Scott's fingerprints, DNA, blood found on gun, police sources say | WSOC-TV

 

[BGIF]

Keith Scott's fingerprints, DNA, blood found on gun, police sources say | WSOC-TV

by: Mark Becker Updated: Sep 23, 2016 - 6:08 PM

CHARLOTTE, N.C. - Tests revealed Keith Scott's fingerprints, DNA and blood were on a gun recovered at Tuesday’s officer-involved shooting scene, police sources told Channel 9 reporter Mark Becker.

Scott was shot and killed Tuesday afternoon by a Charlotte-Mecklenburg police officer in University City.

Police said they have video of the shooting, but will not release it so it doesn’t jeopardize the investigation.

Charlotte Mayor Jennifer Roberts said she believes that the video should be released, but she said it's a matter of timing.

When asked if she saw a gun on the video of Keith Scott being shot, Roberts answered, “There were two videos I was able to see, the visual clarity made those videos inconclusive.”

CMPD Chief Kerr Putney said police have handed the investigation over to the State Bureau of Investigation, but he was still fielding questions about the video and why police haven’t released it Friday at a news conference.

Scott’s family saw one and possibly two videos Thursday that show the final moments leading up to the shooting. The family has called for it to be released.

Putney said he has seen two videos, presumably the same ones, and he said they are inconclusive.

“I know there's at least one body cam and one dash cam that I've reviewed, we’re still working through all others involved," Putney said.

He again stood by his decision not to release them.

“If I were to put it out indiscriminately and it doesn’t give you good context, it can inflame the situation and make it even worse. It will exacerbate the backlash. It will increase the distrust,” Putney said.

WSOC-TV, virtual channel 9 (UHF digital channel 34), is an ABC-affiliated television station located in Charlotte, North Carolina, United States.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Reported where?

Put up a cite.

Loaded gun found in N.C. had fingerprints matching victim -CNN

 

[BGIF]

Moose and Bishop thanks for the cites. Reps to you both.

 

[BGIF]

North Carolina has strict video realease laws. It basically can only release the footage regarding the people involved. That being said one of the people involved is dead and the police rarely release video footage. I would not hold your breath on the public getting to see the footage.

Agreed there is a state law regarding release of police videos BUT it doesn't go into effect until October. I believe I read yesterday (but can't find the article) that the mayor commented that the city attorney confirmed that CMPD is not bound by that state law.

Here's a quote from another article stating that the video law is not binding at this time.

A new state law will soon prevent police agencies from releasing body camera footage to the public without a court order. But African-American leaders, open government advocates and the ACLU urged the police to release the video, noting that the new law doesn’t go into effect until Oct. 1.

Read more here: Charlotte police chief: Video provides no ‘definitive’ evidence that victim pointed gun before officer shot him | The Charlotte Observer

 

[NDinL.A.]

The difference between the Trump foundation and the Clinton foundation is not in how provable each one is, it's how severe each one is. Trump, at worst, owes some back taxes and IRS penalties. Hillary, at worst, took bribes from foreign leaders and jeopardized national security.

Not even close. At worst, Trump bribed an official to not investigate him for a clear fraud case. He should be in jail for that shit and he should be in jail for Trump U on its own. He's a billionaire getting richer off the backs of Americans believing in his sham "university". It's sickening.

And we'd know MUCH more about his foreign interests if the pussy/fraud would release his taxes as she has done for herself and the foundation. Anyone demanding she should be in jail should be screaming the same thing for him. I'd be fine with both of them going, or the Trump supporters simply shutting the fuck up about "Lock her up!!!" until their hero faces the same scrutiny.

And Pat, errrrrrrrrrrr, Broker, LOL at you or anyone else still buying that Trump isn't a racist (or purposely race-baiting throughout his entire campaign and pretty much his entire adult life). You anti-PC policemen are so overly sensitive to anyone having the gall to believe that (yes) there is racism out there, that you miss it even when it's right in front of your face. No, not everything against people of color is because of racism, but racism IS alive and well, and you can see it clearly in Trump and many of his supporters.