Presidential Election 2024

[Giddyup]

I just showed you the darn video and still you don’t believe. It’s like talking to a wall really. But to each his own.

 

[Blazers46]

I do, and I was specifically referring to the conversation here on this board, and how many people, not necessarily you, don't seem to care about holding people accountable for J6. But pivot to Minneapolis/George Floyd, Seattle, or anything else, whenever J6 gets brought up and holding Trump accountable.

I think people are okay with the 1200 held accountable. Your specifically just referring to trump being needing to be arrested?

 

[ColoradoIrish]

I think people are okay with the 1200 held accountable. Your specifically just referring to trump being needing to be arrested?

No, I've been clear that I don't think he should be arrested and jailed even the crime calls for that. I believe that creates more division amongst all of us and our country. I don't believe he should be eligible to be president. I personally just want to see others hold him responsible for that day and what lead up to that day. That would've been them voting for impeachment, or continued rhetoric from conservatives condemning that day and his role in that day. And not the party eventually acting like that day never happened.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

I just showed you the darn video and still you don’t believe. It’s like talking to a wall really. But to each his own.

Ask PolitiFact: Did Capitol Police let mob of Trump supporte

Question: "Did Capitol Police let a mob of Trump supporters into the building?" Answer: We didn’t find evidence of that.

www.politifact.com

Again disproven countless times in the past 4 years.

 

[Rocket89]

I think people are okay with the 1200 held accountable. Your specifically just referring to trump being needing to be arrested?

Ummmm, you're okay with 1,200 held accountable when it was a set up?????

 

[Blazers46]

No, I've been clear that I don't think he should be arrested and jailed even the crime calls for that. I believe that creates more division amongst all of us and our country. I don't believe he should be eligible to be president. I personally just want to see others hold him responsible for that day and what lead up to that day. That would've been them voting for impeachment, or continued rhetoric from conservatives condemning that day and his role in that day. And not the party eventually acting like that day never happened.

It’s called voting. People/politicians are held accountable at the ballot box. There’s a lot of people I’d rather not see on the ballot… I just don’t vote for them.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

It’s called voting. People/politicians are held accountable at the ballot box. There’s a lot of people I’d rather not see on the ballot… I just don’t vote for them.

Yes I understand that, and I know you says you haven't/weren't voting for him, but he should be disconcerting to everyone that a man who attempted to overturn an election based on nothing more than his feelings could potentially be holding that office again. And we have eligibility requirements, I'm simply stating he shouldn't be eligible. We only get to vote for those that are eligible, problem solved if he's not eligible.

 

[Irish#1]

So if someone has a dick they’re a man? What about intersex people?

You’re the guy that mockingly posted “one is too many” the other day and is now using a number so small it’s almost irrelevant. Lol

You can describe yourself anyway you want to, but given intersex is estimated to be around 1.7%, if you have a penis, then you’re near 100% a guy.

 

[TorontoGold]

You’re the guy that mockingly posted “one is too many” the other day and is now using a number so small it’s almost irrelevant. Lol

You can describe yourself anyway you want to, but given intersex is estimated to be around 1.7%, if you have a penis, then you’re near 100% a guy.

I am that guy. Do you know how many people are trans? 0.6%! How Many Adults and Youth Identify as Transgender in the United States?

You quite literally are making my point. If you're willing to break your rules (not irish#1 rules) for a % of the population who is a higher rate than the number of trans people, you're not actually being consistent and just doing it for transphobic reasons.

Do you now see how ridiculous it is for people to latch onto something like "What is a woman?" from Matt Walsh?

 

[NDVirginia19]

Can we please have a thread where we only talk about everyone’s views on transgenderism and stop having the same circular conversation here every five days

 

[Blazers46]

Do you now see how ridiculous it is for people to latch onto something like "What is a woman?" from Matt Walsh?

It’s a lot less ridiculous than not knowing what a woman is. Your side says we shouldn’t assume. “Notre Dame” means “our lady”… you should be pissed that we assume Mary’s gender and even have the “balls” to name a University using assumed pronouns.

 

[Blazers46]

Can we please have a thread where we only talk about everyone’s views on transgenderism and stop having the same circular conversation here every five days

Culture thread.

Toronto started it… he can’t help himself

 

[TorontoGold]

It’s a lot less ridiculous than not knowing what a woman is. Your side says we shouldn’t assume. “Notre Dame” means “our lady”… you should be pissed that we assume Mary’s gender and even have the “balls” to name a University using assumed pronouns.

The majority side is - who cares? I am with that side.

Culture thread.

Toronto started it… he can’t help himself

Yes…

This is the start of your meltdown. You posted this lol.

 

[Blazers46]

The majority side is - who cares? I am with that side.





This is the start of your meltdown. You posted this lol.

I posted just to point out and with the point of showing both sides say stupid stuff… and then you immediately responded by further proving my point by asking me about my manliness.

 

[calvegas04]

 

[Giddyup]

Yeah, keep the transsexual talk to culture thread.

 

[Blazers46]

Chinas response to tariffs were and are tariffs of their own. I guess China is just as dumb.

 

[Giddyup]

Tarrifs encourages domestic production and manufacturing. Thus lowering associated costs over time vs imported goods. That at least makes it part of the productive economy while taxes starve the productive economy and put a wet blanket on the investment climate. ...

It’s why every 1st world country uses them.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Tarrifs encourages domestic production and manufacturing. Thus lowering associated costs over time vs imported goods. That at least makes it part of the productive economy while taxes starve the productive economy and put a wet blanket on the investment climate. ...

It’s why every 1st world country uses them.

I think pretty much every economist would tell you that tariffs will not lead to lower costs over time. The reason why widget X is shipped in from China is because it is way cheaper to produce widget X over there, to include the cost of transportation. The argument for tariffs is never about decreasing the cost of goods and anyone who says that is a liar. However, tariffs are a way of decreasing the penalty of our higher standards for labor costs and such, whereas they use essentially slave labor in China. In theory you could argue that it makes our economy stronger because by returning those manufacturing jobs here you strengthen the middle class and make our industrial base more resilient in a time of war. However, costs will undoubtedly go up

 

[Giddyup]

You’re essentially keeping more money in the domestic economy. Inflation is doing a good job raising prices anyway but that’s always been the bankers scam.

Every tax, tariff, reg, etc is passed onto the consumer. So long as the consumer population has access to good paying jobs, the government can lean on (tax) their prosperity and not collapse them

 

[Giddyup]

Many citizens want more government control of the economy to curb rising prices. It is the worst strategy imaginable. Interventionist governments never reduce consumer prices because they benefit from inflation, dissolving their political spending commitments in a constantly depreciated currency. Inflation is the perfect hidden tax. The government makes the currency less valuable by issuing more units of fiat money, partially dissolves its debt in real terms, collects more taxes, and presents itself as the solution to rising prices with subsidies in an increasingly worthless currency. That is why socialism and hyperinflation go hand in hand.

Socialism rejects human action and economic calculation and sells a false image of a government that can create wealth at will by issuing more units of fiat currency. Obviously, when inflation arrives, the socialist government will use its two favorite tools: propaganda and repression. Propaganda, which accuses stores and businesses of driving up prices, and repression, which occurs when social unrest intensifies and citizens legitimately hold governments accountable for scarcity and high prices, are the two main strategies.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Most citizens want more government control of the economy to curb rising prices. It is the worst strategy imaginable. Interventionist governments never reduce consumer prices because they benefit from inflation, dissolving their political spending commitments in a constantly depreciated currency. Inflation is the perfect hidden tax. The government makes the currency less valuable by issuing more units of fiat money, partially dissolves its debt in real terms, collects more taxes, and presents itself as the solution to rising prices with subsidies in an increasingly worthless currency. That is why socialism and hyperinflation go hand in hand.

Socialism rejects human action and economic calculation and sells a false image of a government that can create wealth at will by issuing more units of fiat currency. Obviously, when inflation arrives, the socialist government will use its two favorite tools: propaganda and repression. Propaganda, which accuses stores and businesses of driving up prices, and repression, which occurs when social unrest intensifies and citizens legitimately hold governments accountable for scarcity and high prices, are the two main strategies.

Dude…stop giving your money to Hillsdale College.

 

[TorontoGold]

Dude…stop giving your money to Hillsdale College.

**Prager U

 

[drayer54]

Democrats are so far gone in they/them world that they can't figure out how to relate to men. We have Obama pleading with Black men and acknowledging they aren't excited about Kamala. We have hipsters talking about how they eat carburetors and then whatever this is:

 

[Blazers46]

Democrats are so far gone in they/them world that they can't figure out how to relate to men. We have Obama pleading with Black men and acknowledging they aren't excited about Kamala. We have hipsters talking about how they eat carburetors and then whatever this is:

Didn’t we agree that gender issues and trans debate goes in the culture thread?

 

[Giddyup]

Tampon Tim is a degenerate liar on major activities. Guy is a creep.

Walz first said he “misspoke” on this.
“All I said on this was, I got there that summer and misspoke on this, so I will just – that’s what I’ve said,” he said, before adding, “I was in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protests went in. And from that, I learned a lot of what needed to be in, in governance,” he said.

Walz regularly organized and chaperoned trips to China during his time as a teacher prior to entering politics.

He previously said he visited Hong Kong in “May of ’89,” weeks before the Tiananmen Square massacre in Beijing. During a 2014 hearing of the Congressional-Executive Commission on China honoring the 25th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square protests, Walz, then a Minnesota congressman, appeared to recall specific details of his trip to the region at that time.
Walz’s claims that he was in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square protests have been repeated in media reports. But contemporaneous newspaper reports first resurfaced by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative news outlet, place Walz in Nebraska around that time. An issue of the Alliance Times-Herald dated May 16, 1989, features a photo of Walz touring a Nebraska National Guard storeroom.

 

[IrishLax]

Trump victory guaranteed.

 

[IrishLax]

Tampon Tim is a degenerate liar on major activities. Guy is a creep.

Walz first said he “misspoke” on this.
“All I said on this was, I got there that summer and misspoke on this, so I will just – that’s what I’ve said,” he said, before adding, “I was in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protests went in. And from that, I learned a lot of what needed to be in, in governance,” he said.

Walz regularly organized and chaperoned trips to China during his time as a teacher prior to entering politics.

He previously said he visited Hong Kong in “May of ’89,” weeks before the Tiananmen Square massacre in Beijing. During a 2014 hearing of the Congressional-Executive Commission on China honoring the 25th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square protests, Walz, then a Minnesota congressman, appeared to recall specific details of his trip to the region at that time.
Walz’s claims that he was in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square protests have been repeated in media reports. But contemporaneous newspaper reports first resurfaced by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative news outlet, place Walz in Nebraska around that time. An issue of the Alliance Times-Herald dated May 16, 1989, features a photo of Walz touring a Nebraska National Guard storeroom.

Imagine pretending to give a shit about this when Trump runs around saying stuff like this on the regular:

 

[NDVirginia19]

Imagine pretending to give a shit about this when Trump runs around saying stuff like this on the regular:

For me at least it's more of the general double standards that the treatment of the lies gets. Trump gets rightfully held to the fire for his lies, but Democrats just don't get held to the fire in the same way. If Vance had lied about his military record in the same way that Walz did, it would be brought up in every single interview, but they've just agreed that "Oh he's just a knucklehead who misspeaks sometimes" and moved on from it.

 

[IrishLax]

For me at least it's more of the general double standards that the treatment of the lies gets. Trump gets rightfully held to the fire for his lies, but Democrats just don't get held to the fire in the same way. If Vance had lied about his military record in the same way that Walz did, it would be brought up in every single interview, but they've just agreed that "Oh he's just a knucklehead who misspeaks sometimes" and moved on from it.

Yeah I'm totally onboard with this point of view. There are a lot of people on social media (not saying there are people here, don't follow this thread close enough) that pretend Trump is truthful and that's where I get eye-rolley. Same with gnashing teeth over anything that is small potatoes from either side.