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Aren't those all the things you guys like and wanted another candidate to replace Trump? Here's your chance!

***except Kamala is a radical leftist who apparently has adopted these pesky conservative policy points, but she's a brown woman so she must be woke!
It's that she's completely dishonest and has flipped on very important policy points that she has believed and fought for over the entire course of her career until the last 10 days. Also she has not come out and spoken to any of these policy flips, she's done so through campaign surrogates and is relying on the helpful press to carry the water for her and use said flips to attack republicans.
 

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Aren't those all the things you guys like and wanted another candidate to replace Trump? Here's your chance!

***except Kamala is a radical leftist who apparently has adopted these pesky conservative policy points, but she's a brown woman so she must be woke!
Any particular reason you regularly bring up the race/bigot card?

You know as well as everyone else that her pivot is strictly to garner votes. Once in, she'll revert back.

What I find amusing is, that not that long ago Dems were bemoaning Harris, her lack of policy and popularity. Biden says he's quitting and all of a sudden Harris is the savior. lol
 

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It's that she's completely dishonest and has flipped on very important policy points that she has believed and fought for over the entire course of her career until the last 10 days. Also she has not come out and spoken to any of these policy flips, she's done so through campaign surrogates and is relying on the helpful press to carry the water for her and use said flips to attack republicans.
She's a centrist politician what did you expect? lol. Your anger at her perceived flip flopping can be directed at the media sources trying to feed you that she's some sort of progressive.

Any particular reason you regularly bring up the race/bigot card?

You knw as well as everyone else that her pivot is strictly to garner votes. Once in, she'll revert back.

What I find amusing is, that not that long ago Dems were bemoaning Harris, her lack of policy and popularity. Biden says he's quitting and all of a sudden Harris is the savior. lol
Me? You can look through this thread to see who is bringing up the race card. I've repeatedly stated my political disagreements with her, but others want to discuss the DEI aspect.

I won't hold my breath to see if you question them why it's so important to bring it up.
 

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Trump was a democrat for decades lol. Miss me with this shit.

He realized he could capitalize on hicks and changed his entire political ideology lol.
I also have no illusion that Trump is an ideologically coherent person. However, while I did not vote for Trump in 2016, I acknowledge that on most things he ruled (or at least deferred) to an overall more conservative means of governance and a foreign policy that knocks the doors off of what Biden and Harris have done.
 

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She's a centrist politician what did you expect? lol. Your anger at her perceived flip flopping can be directed at the media sources trying to feed you that she's some sort of progressive.


Me? You can look through this thread to see who is bringing up the race card. I've repeatedly stated my political disagreements with her, but others want to discuss the DEI aspect.

I won't hold my breath to see if you question them why it's so important to bring it up.
She was the most liberal senator during her term (a fact since removed from the internet because it was politically inconvenient for Kamala), and it is not the media that spoke the words that came out of Kamala's mouth. I am old enough to remember the far distant time of 2020 where Kamala spoke and advocated for all of these political opinions that she personally espoused and is now soft-flip-flopping from via campaign surrogates. It is not a centrist position to advocate for single payer healthcare, decriminalize illegal immigration, or confiscate assault rifles. Maybe it is in Canada
 

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I won't hold my breath to see if you question them why it's so important to bring it up.
There's a difference in saying someone is a DEI pick when they're not qualified and saying someone is a brown woman so she must be woke! Maybe Harris isn't woke and is just jumping ships to whichever one will further her career. I guess if she gets elected, we'll have the answer.

Danica is spot on.

 

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She was the most liberal senator during her term (a fact since removed from the internet because it was politically inconvenient for Kamala), and it is not the media that spoke the words that came out of Kamala's mouth. I am old enough to remember the far distant time of 2020 where Kamala spoke and advocated for all of these political opinions that she personally espoused and is now soft-flip-flopping from via campaign surrogates. It is not a centrist position to advocate for single payer healthcare, decriminalize illegal immigration, or confiscate assault rifles. Maybe it is in Canada
No doubt she is a political opportunist who used her term as a senator to poke Republican's in the eye. Look at her career history and tell me if she's progressive.

You'd be really shocked to find out that the terms "left" and "right" wing weren't developed in the US, but in a far off country called France. So maybe you'll realize that things that are commonly accepted around the world as centrist positions are based more in actual ideologies rather than whatever cooked up fright media you're reading.
 

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There's a difference in saying someone is a DEI pick when they're not qualified and saying someone is a brown woman so she must be woke! Maybe Harris isn't woke and will jump ships to whichever one will further her career.


So the race card thing only is questioned when I say it sarcastically, but you won't ask others why they continue to mention her being a DEI pick.

The day you hold anyone else to these same sort of standards will be something lol.
 

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Aren't those all the things you guys like and wanted another candidate to replace Trump? Here's your chance!

***except Kamala is a radical leftist who apparently has adopted these pesky conservative policy points, but she's a brown woman so she must be woke!
We're all confident that she's sincere in changing her beliefs and will follow through if elected.
 

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So the race card thing only is questioned when I say it sarcastically, but you won't ask others why they continue to mention her being a DEI pick.

The day you hold anyone else to these same sort of standards will be something lol.

If Kamala were white would she be in this position right now?
 

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Yeah, Biden would have definitely picked the most liberal senator from the most electorally safe democrat state who crashed and burned in the primary and dropped out before Iowa as his VP if they were a white male.
What’s the difference if the VP locks up a voting block based on demographics instead of geography?
 

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There's a difference in saying someone is a DEI pick when they're not qualified and saying someone is a brown woman so she must be woke! Maybe Harris isn't woke and is just jumping ships to whichever one will further her career. I guess if she gets elected, we'll have the answer.

Danica is spot on.


As if him fucking a porn star is even top 50 on the list of reasons to think he's untrustworthy lol.
 

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What’s the difference if the VP locks up a voting block based on demographics instead of geography?
What’s the difference between where someone lives v what race you are? You sure that’s a real question?
 

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What’s the difference between where someone lives v what race you are? You sure that’s a real question?
The point is any of these running mates are picked with a pragmatic goal of trying to shore up support with one group or another. People from one state(Kelly/Shapiro), people from one religion (Pence), people from one sex (Palin), one race (Kamala), etc. They're chosen to try and broaden the appeal of their nominee and help get them elected.
 

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This is you playing dumb.

I’ll be the first grade teacher and talk you as such… she was the VP because?
You know, the party that supposedly pulled a coup, would really push a "DEI" candidate as their frontrunner purely for the "DEI" aspect?

Yeah, Biden would have definitely picked the most liberal senator from the most electorally safe democrat state who crashed and burned in the primary and dropped out before Iowa as his VP if they were a white male.
Yeah, Donald Trump would have really picked the one term Gov of a electorally safe GOP state who never ran in the primaries and calls his wife "mother" as his VP if they weren't a white man.
 

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You know, the party that supposedly pulled a coup, would really push a "DEI" candidate as their frontrunner purely for the "DEI" aspect?
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If you answered my question you could answer that question with one swoop.
 

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If you answered my question you could answer that question with one swoop.
They're trying to win an election lmao, they saw how incredibly stupid it was to have 92 year old Joe Biden mumble out about how he was going to have a nice black VP woman, you really think that they're going to do the DEI thing part two?

The only ones calling her a DEI prez pick are desperate republicans. (Sorry for mentioning the DEI card again #1 !)
 

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You know, the party that supposedly pulled a coup, would really push a "DEI" candidate as their frontrunner purely for the "DEI" aspect?


Yeah, Donald Trump would have really picked the one term Gov of a electorally safe GOP state who never ran in the primaries and calls his wife "mother" as his VP if they weren't a white man.

In truth, Ohio isn't really considered GOP safe. In fact, until the bizarre 2020 election Ohio has voted for whoever the Presidential winner has been every year from 1964 through 2016. No other state has done that.
 

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Kamala out here code switching harder than Brian Kelly!

This is as bad and phony as her fake Facetime call where she said, "Girl, I'm out here on these streets" with a fake ebonics accent she doesn't normally use. She's just a pandering phony.
 

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In truth, Ohio isn't really considered GOP safe. In fact, until the bizarre 2020 election Ohio has voted for whoever the Presidential winner has been every year from 1964 through 2016. No other state has done that.
Ah, I was describing Pence not Vance.
 

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Aren't those all the things you guys like and wanted another candidate to replace Trump? Here's your chance!

***except Kamala is a radical leftist who apparently has adopted these pesky conservative policy points, but she's a brown woman so she must be woke!
When she said all of those things, I believed her. Now that she’s recognizing they got her zero delegates in 2020, she’s lying to us all. She’s a hollow figure the radicals. Not sure why you struggle with this.
 

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This is as bad and phony as her fake Facetime call where she said, "Girl, I'm out here on these streets" with a fake ebonics accent she doesn't normally use. She's just a pandering phony.
But not as bad as when she hired child actors to make her look real.
 
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