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In most of these cases of immigrants from Central America, the conditions in their homeland pose more risk than being dragged through Mexico and seeking asylum in the USA. Both staying in their homeland and traveling a few thousand miles under less than ideal conditions pose dangers. However, remaining in a violent, lawless country is the more dangerous of the two options. They will keep coming as long as where they're going is providing a glimmer of hope.

Nobody's children deserve to be harassed. It doesn't matter whether or not they are a politician's children or the children of immigrants. All children deserve to be protected. That should be the bottom line.

Please read the 1951 Refugee Convention before continuing this conversation.

1) The US is not a shelter for the entire world.

2) Refugees have all the human rights in the world and can claim asylum, but they are supposed to go to the next neighboring country absent conflict to do so.

3) Mexico deports and denies thousands upon thousands every year and no one's calling their president racist.
 

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Many would also say, that true asylum seekers could go to other closer countries, or CA's could stay in MX (which is typical international asylum law). It's also pretty evident that some bring their kids knowing their chances with a kid are better... Perfect example is the child on the Time cover. The mother left her husband and 3 other children without telling them. She wanted to join other family here and had a job lined up per the husband. She was not fleeing persecution. She had also been deported before when she attempted to come by herself.

Sorry, but I'm very skeptical of most "asylum" claims. The system is being manipulated, and the economic asylum seekers make it very hard to help the actual persecuted asylum seekers. By playing the CA card, you're pretty much saying anyone from Guatemala, Honduras, or El Salvado should have an automatic free pass into the US.

Compare Syria to the CA Triangle. Syria is war torn while the CA Triangle has gangs. Europe is turning away boats from Syria, yet we're horrible for not having an open border for CA.

I think you are significantly downplaying the levels of social and political violence in Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador. All of those countries have much more that just “gangs” in terms of what types of violence they are dealing with. Case in point, Mexico has had an ongoing armed civil revolt in Chiapas for almost twenty years and a paramilitary drug cartel/execution squad (Los Zetas) being the defacto government in the states along the border of Texas such as Chihuahua and Sonora. If the US was dealing with the levels of violence Mexico is at present people would most certainly classify it as a civil war/armed revolt. In fact in just about every state in Mexico there are heavily armed groups challenging the governments authority with force.
 
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In most of these cases of immigrants from Central America, the conditions in their homeland pose more risk than being dragged through Mexico and seeking asylum in the USA. Both staying in their homeland and traveling a few thousand miles under less than ideal conditions pose dangers. However, remaining in a violent, lawless country is the more dangerous of the two options. They will keep coming as long as where they're going is providing a glimmer of hope.

Nobody's children deserve to be harassed. It doesn't matter whether or not they are a politician's children or the children of immigrants. All children deserve to be protected. That should be the bottom line.

Even the unborn?

I agree with most of what you said but protecting every child from their own nation isn't a tab American tax payers are able to pay. I wish our media would be as honest as you describing the situation bc far too many people are naive enough to believe we can fix the problem without flooding our nation with millions of third world migrants. What you describe is hopeless despair. Thankfully the neo liberal order has figured out the solution and are using their method in the middle east - impose sanctions on nations who allegedly violate human rights and build big fucking walls to keep certain countries safe while the sanctions work to bring liberty and prosperity.
 

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Damir Marusic just published an article in Medium titled "The Problem of Donald Trump Didn't Start with Donald Trump":

The arrival of Donald Trump on the political scene has been treated by disbelieving pundits, journalists, and politicos not unlike how the appearance of the Mule was treated by the Encyclopedists in Isaac Asimov’s classic Foundation series of science fiction novels (and, for the uninitiated, soon to be an Apple-produced TV series). I’m not implying that Trump, like Asimov’s notorious conqueror, has mutant powers that allow him to manipulate the masses’ emotions, making his followers adore him and his enemies to cower in fear. No, the parallel has to do with Trump being president of the United States; this very fact seems inconceivable to many. Like Asimov’s Mule, Trump simply wasn’t supposed to happen; the Founding Fathers didn’t build the system in anticipation of a president such as him.

This disbelief and shock has led to a narrower form of analysis than is perhaps warranted. More reflective members of the media have tried to grapple with the moment by asking, “What is the phenomenon of Trump doing to America?” “How are our hallowed institutions standing up to the unique challenge of his presidency?” “How can we repair the damage left behind, once the Trump presidency is firmly in the rearview mirror?” These are not so much the wrong questions as they are misdirected. Because, while Trump differs from his predecessors in many ways, he is best understood as the culmination of a process that’s been underway in the United States for quite some time.

With talk of impeachment in the air, it can be tempting to compare Trump to Richard Nixon. Nixon’s rise and fall, however, took place in a completely different political context. One can certainly trace today’s situation to a domestic conflict that has its roots in the 1960s, and it’s interesting to juxtapose the reactionary sentiments that powered both Nixon and Trump to the highest office. But the process I’m describing kicked off in 1991.

One of the defining features of this process — of the post–Cold War political context more generally — has been the tendency to delegitimize whoever is the democratically elected president at the time. The persecution of Bill Clinton at the hands of Special Counsel Kenneth Starr that led to the country’s first impeachment in more than 130 years; the lingering questions surrounding George W. Bush’s win in 2000 (“hanging chads” in Florida, the role of the Supreme Court in the recount, and the question of popular vote versus electoral college); the birth certificate talk that accompanied Barack Obama’s two terms in office (driven, notably, by Donald Trump, but taken up by nontrivial numbers of elected Republican politicians); and today, the ongoing Russiagate investigations of the sitting president — all these are of a piece. The intensity of the sentiments driving this process and the ways these sentiments have found expression have varied over the past 27 years. Still, it’s a phenomenon that’s hard to miss once you’ve noticed it.

What is behind this destructive political bloodsport? One can think of it as an outgrowth of what sociologist James Davison Hunter christened the “culture war” in his famous 1991 book.

In Hunter’s telling, the United States has been riven by some form of cultural conflict since its founding. In the 19th and early 20th century, that conflict was largely between a Protestant majority that saw fit to persecute Catholic and Jewish minorities as a foreign “other” — purveyors of a fundamentally un-American faith and set of values.

This dynamic started to mutate in the middle of the 20th century. Though surveys from the 1950s through the 1980s saw a marked decline in sectarian hatreds in the United States, the period saw the emergence of a conflict that is familiar to us today: a fight over “ultimate moral authority,” pitting those with orthodox tendencies (people committed to “an external, definable, and transcendent authority”) and those with progressivist leanings (people who are generally committed to deriving authority from rationalism and subjectivism).

“Abortion, child care, funding for the arts, affirmative action and quotas, gay rights, values in public education, or multiculturalism” — all these debates, Hunter notes, derive from this struggle for moral authority. Jews, Catholics, Protestants, and Muslims these days spend less time in doctrinal disputes with each other and instead each split along the orthodox/progressivist divide. It’s not shocking, for example, to see some Orthodox Jews aligning with Catholics and evangelicals against abortion.

Hunter’s analysis was groundbreaking in that it highlighted the religious underpinnings that tied these fights together. But his argument wasn’t that the culture wars were simply a fight between the forces of traditionalism versus the forces of secularism. Rather, his point was that everything in America was suffused with a religious sense of mission — even spheres we might normally imagine are completely secularized.

This is a severely underappreciated point among the public at large. For example, several brilliant thinkers — Walter Russell Mead, Walter McDougall, James Kurth, Adam Garfinkle — have written about how America’s “civil religion” has shaped American foreign policy. Hunter himself notes this in passing:

Even in secular political discourse, America has long been portrayed in the most moralistic of terms. Every war in its history has been framed as a moral crusade — to defeat the “harlot of Satan” (the French and Indian War), to eliminate monarchical rule (the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812), to eliminate slavery (the Civil War), to make the world safe for democracy (the First World War), and to resist totalitarian expansionism (the Second World War, the Korean War, and Vietnam) and the expansionist exploits of dictators (the Persian Gulf War).

What was perhaps not yet clear to Hunter in 1991 was that when the Cold War ended, Americans’ sublimated religious energies, which have traditionally sought an “other” to oppose, were left facing a profound vacuum. As I have written elsewhere, “the United States felt the absence of the Soviet Union like a phantom limb.” Those same forces turned inward, with U.S. citizens attaching themselves with a fury to partisan politics.

Pat Buchanan’s famous “Culture War” speech at the 1992 Republican National Convention makes the connection explicit:

My friends, this election is about more than who gets what. It is about who we are. It is about what we believe, and what we stand for as Americans. There is a religious war going on in this country. It is a cultural war, as critical to the kind of nation we shall be as was the Cold War itself, for this war is for the soul of America. And in that struggle for the soul of America, Clinton & Clinton are on the other side, and George Bush is on our side.

With the Cold War done and our ideological opponents vanquished abroad — Frank Fukuyama’s “end of history” thesis was three years old already — Buchanan thought it was time to focus on the enemies in our midst.

The situation as Buchanan sketched it out is a dangerous one for a liberal democracy like ours. If the fight is over values rather than policy positions — a “religious war” — compromise is impossible: Values are absolute and not amenable to deliberative give-and-take.

And democratic elections are not meant to adjudicate such matters anyway. They are by definition a mechanism of temporarily designating who gets to run the country. (The question is posed to voters again and again, on a regular schedule.) If the issues at stake are about the very “soul of America,” democracy quickly reveals itself to be a profoundly unsatisfying means of organizing our politics.

It’s that lack of satisfaction with democratic outcomes that undeniably played a role in Republicans pursuing a legalistic means of undermining the legitimacy of Clinton’s presidency. The dark murmurs about the legitimacy of Bush and Obama didn’t rise to the level of what happened under Clinton, but now, with Trump, we’re back to special prosecutors and talk of impeachment.

Dana Milbank recently tried to make the case that Clinton’s reprehensible behavior during the Starr investigation — not just the underlying sexual improprieties with Monica Lewinsky, but also his dishonesty and his propensity to spin facts — all opened to door to the kind of brazen behavior (“grab them by the pussy,” “fake news”) that have come to represent a new normal under Trump.

That may be true, but it’s only superficially relevant. If you abstract away the personalities of Clinton and Trump and the particulars of their alleged transgressions, the continuities in how we are practicing politics become all the more striking. The roles of the parties have almost perfectly switched. Republicans have rallied around Trump in ways reminiscent of how Democrats closed ranks around Clinton. Many Democrats saw the Starr investigation as endlessly cynical political opportunism engineered to bring down their president; many Republicans see the Muller investigation in the same light. And both Republicans then and Democrats now see the sitting president as almost treasonous — betraying America in spirit, if not in act.

Pat Buchanan’s call to arms in 1991 was a pivotal moment in American politics. Buchanan saw himself and his followers as the ones on the defensive in a struggle that had been going on for a while. He had probably read Hunter’s book (which was published earlier that year), and it may have crystallized some things for him. The struggle itself wasn’t necessarily new, but calling it a “religious war” in an explicitly political context almost certainly changed things.

Hunter’s orthodox and progressivists had already mostly sorted themselves into the two major parties by that point. Buchanan was the bugler sounding the cavalry charge. Buchanan’s bugling didn’t cause an immediate rupture in society. But by injecting “ultimate,” zero-sum questions into democratic politics, he undoubtedly put a new process into motion.

Trust is a fragile thing, the first casualty of any war. And given that this war is now in its 27th year, it shouldn’t be surprising that reservoirs of trust — especially in partisan politics — are at an all-time low. But while Trump himself seems to go out of his way to exacerbate tensions among Americans, it’s important to remember that he is ultimately the symptom of something that has been going on for quite some time. And that implies that with his departure, we will not necessarily be better as a country.

Would a new external enemy mean that we could return to politics as usual? Possibly. But if so, what a horrible price to pay for less-toxic politics at home.
 

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So you seriously believe this is a one sided issue?

Anyhow, two of the examples you cite as “violence” amount to a political hack being refused service at a restaurant and the other being someone saying mean things about the members of the current administration. I can assure you neither of those are precedent setting events.

In GA and Oregon, cops were assaulted this weekend. I don't see GOPers doing that kind of crap.

And harassing people and families as they eat or go to movies.... Do you really think that's acceptable behavior?

And per the left it's not OK to refuse service because of religious beliefs, but it is ok to refuse service because of political beliefs??? You don't see any hypocrisy in that?
It's hilarious how the left's standard of acceptable behavior fluctuates from "you can't even think mean thoughts about them!" when it's illegal immigrants, minority groups, or LGBTIXYZ123 groups to "well they didn't get physically assaulted!" when it comes to right wingers.

I hope normal Americans all over the country remember the rallying cry of the tolerant left:
I can assure you neither of those are precedent setting events.
 

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So, enacting policy that separates a child from their family is acceptable but confronting a member of an administration who enacted said policy in front of their children is not. Just making sure I’m getting this all straight.
U.S. Border Patrol agents in southern Arizona say they've rescued a 6-year-old Costa Rica boy who was abandoned by a smuggler in the desert.

Ajo Station agents say they found the boy west of Lukeville and just north of the Arizona-Mexico border on Tuesday evening.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...oned-costa-rica-boy-arizona-desert/720124002/

"They are only coming here (illegally flouting federal law and internationally recognized borders) for a better life for their CHILDREN!!!!"

Where are your crocodile tears now?
 

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I’m not what abouting at all. Case in point Willie Brown caught a rash of shit (rightfully so in my opinion) everywhere he went in San Francisco when he was mayor. He understood that was part of the job and to his credit usually engaged with those who were calling him out. He sure as hell didn’t hold a press conference and try to make himself into a victim. I believe all politicians should understand that with the power they wield they should be ready for criticism at all times.
So you're just going to sit here and act like the left and the media didn't have several meltdowns over the past 2 years every time Trump made some off the cuff remark about how he was "fanning the flames of hate" and all of that bullshit? Businesses should be able to refuse service to anyone they want but you are just a hypocrite. I have a strong feeling you wouldn't be riding such a high horse if a business refused service to illegal immigrants or blacks. I don't care that Sanders was refused service and I don't even care what the reason was, it is annoying (and amusing in a strange way) to watch all of the two faced hypocrisy from the left about this or Waters' comments as if their collective panties wouldn't be in a wad the size of Mt. Olympus if the shoe was on the other foot.
 

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The group who were occupying were anti fed activist doing what they were doing because of land management. They were not "GOPers" protesting Obama policy.
The Bundys are damn near Sovereign Citizens and pledge allegiance to no politicians of any stripe.
 

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The Bundys are damn near Sovereign Citizens and pledge allegiance to no politicians of any stripe.

If they had an allegiance, it would definitely be to republicans. I also dont associate all the Antifa folks with Dems but they are definitely enabled by the further left folks.

Speaking of Antifa, the vid that came out of that bitchboy Antifa guy getting knocked the fuck out was lit af. Dude had a crowbar or something against an unarmed dude and put down on the canvas for a ten count.
 

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I think you are significantly downplaying the levels of social and political violence in Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador. All of those countries have much more that just “gangs” in terms of what types of violence they are dealing with. Case in point, Mexico has had an ongoing armed civil revolt in Chiapas for almost twenty years and a paramilitary drug cartel/execution squad (Los Zetas) being the defacto government in the states along the border of Texas such as Chihuahua and Sonora. If the US was dealing with the levels of violence Mexico is at present people would most certainly classify it as a civil war/armed revolt. In fact in just about every state in Mexico there are heavily armed groups challenging the governments authority with force.

So you just made a wonderful case for Trump's wall.

I've been to MX and CA probably close to 30 times over the past 10 years, and had a house in CA for over 2 years. I'm well aware of the region. There are safe countries close to the Triangle countries. Belize, Costa Rica, and Nicaragua are right there. Panama a bit further, but still much closer than the US. And not all areas in MX are shitholes.

So question. If things are so out of control in MX, Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala, why isn't the UN going in? Why is there not pressure from the civilized world to get shit under control? If things are so horrible that all persons from these countries should get a free pass into the US, why not just send military in to straighten shit out, right?
 

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If they had an allegiance, it would definitely be to republicans. I also dont associate all the Antifa folks with Dems but they are definitely enabled by the further left folks.

Speaking of Antifa, the vid that came out of that bitchboy Antifa guy getting knocked the fuck out was lit af. Dude had a crowbar or something against an unarmed dude and put down on the canvas for a ten count.

They don't have allegiance. They hate the federal government. I don't even think they like the state government anymore. I don't see them as right at all except for 2A. They are the United State of Them. And you don't see them harassing the left (see below).

Antifa's stated goal is to harass the right (sound familiar). They hate capitalism and include socialists, communists, and anarchist. We have plenty of socialist in the Dem party, so not sure why you don't see them aligned.
 

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Bluto / Eddy - are you avoiding this Q?

Eddy / Bluto,

So answer this...

You are a parent living in a neighborhood with violent gangs.

1) You can travel 1 mile for free and take refuge in a safe, but not rich house.

OR

2) You can pay violent gangs thousands of dollars to take you and your kids on a dangerous 10 mile journey to a safe and rich house.

What do you do? Do you take the closest and least dangerous path to safety, or do you put your kids through much more danger to get to the fancy house?
 

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They don't have allegiance. They hate the federal government. I don't even think they like the state government anymore. I don't see them as right at all except for 2A. They are the United State of Them. And you don't see them harassing the left (see below).

Antifa's stated goal is to harass the right (sound familiar). They hate capitalism and include socialists, communists, and anarchist. We have plenty of socialist in the Dem party, so not sure why you don't see them aligned.

Probably because of where I'm from. Great Plains Dems and I imagine a decent chunk of southern Dems probs don't have any interest in aligning with Antifa. Though a lot of them probably will not be voting for the DNC in the next election. You may be right.

Interesting tidbit from Don's 2020 campaign manager, Brad Parscale..he tweeted after the Duluth(BLUE district) that per their polling, 30% of the attendants identified as Dems and 30% as independent. If his polling is even close to correct, the people I'm thinking of may have already all but abandoned the DNC. My brother in law from Long Island..his mom claims to be a Democrat but hasn't voted blue since like 1984.
 

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Probably because of where I'm from. Great Plains Dems and I imagine a decent chunk of southern Dems probs don't have any interest in aligning with Antifa. Though a lot of them probably will not be voting for the DNC in the next election. You may be right.

Interesting tidbit from Don's 2020 campaign manager, Brad Parscale..he tweeted after the Duluth(BLUE district) that per their polling, 30% of the attendants identified as Dems and 30% as independent. If his polling is even close to correct, the people I'm thinking of may have already all but abandoned the DNC. My brother in law from Long Island..his mom claims to be a Democrat but hasn't voted blue since like 1984.

I'd bet most Antifians don't vote lol. What I do know is that where you see dem/lib marches, you see Antifa. You don't see Bundy like militias at all the right marches with the exception of 2A.

Extremes on both sides, but what we are seeing, is a greater number of extremes on the Left getting to be more mainstream.
 

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Mad Maxine and the Social Justice Road Warriors

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That dude came prepared to f-up some antifa with his goggles, hardhat, stick, and shield lol...

people are nuts
 
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That dude came prepared to f-up some antifa with his goggles, hardhat, stick, and shield lol...

people are nuts


So lit. Fight fire with fire. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. <-----heard this from my dad more times than i care to admit.

This homie is Captain MAGA
 

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I'd bet most Antifians don't vote lol. What I do know is that where you see dem/lib marches, you see Antifa. You don't see Bundy like militias at all the right marches with the exception of 2A.

Extremes on both sides, but what we are seeing, is a greater number of extremes on the Left getting to be more mainstream.

Thats fair. I havent been politically active enough long enough to say if that is consistently a Dem problem. I dont want to throw a grenade at people for something that I'm not 100p they deserve, ya feel?

Antifa sucks though and everyone SHOULD be able to agree on that.
 

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It's hilarious how the left's standard of acceptable behavior fluctuates from "you can't even think mean thoughts about them!" when it's illegal immigrants, minority groups, or LGBTIXYZ123 groups to "well they didn't get physically assaulted!" when it comes to right wingers.

I hope normal Americans all over the country remember the rallying cry of the tolerant left:

Thanks. I didn’t realize I represented the entire “left” whatever that means. If we’re being honest though that’s not much of a rallying cry. Now that I am the Icky certified “voice” of the “left” I’ll come up with something way more catchy and get back to you.
 
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So you're just going to sit here and act like the left and the media didn't have several meltdowns over the past 2 years every time Trump made some off the cuff remark about how he was "fanning the flames of hate" and all of that bullshit? Businesses should be able to refuse service to anyone they want but you are just a hypocrite. I have a strong feeling you wouldn't be riding such a high horse if a business refused service to illegal immigrants or blacks. I don't care that Sanders was refused service and I don't even care what the reason was, it is annoying (and amusing in a strange way) to watch all of the two faced hypocrisy from the left about this or Waters' comments as if their collective panties wouldn't be in a wad the size of Mt. Olympus if the shoe was on the other foot.

Actually, yes. Yes I am just going to sit here. Do you realize how hard it is to type on a cellphone and walk at the same time? Ahh...things like joking about sexually assaulting women are off the cuff remarks.
 
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So you just made a wonderful case for Trump's wall.

I've been to MX and CA probably close to 30 times over the past 10 years, and had a house in CA for over 2 years. I'm well aware of the region. There are safe countries close to the Triangle countries. Belize, Costa Rica, and Nicaragua are right there. Panama a bit further, but still much closer than the US. And not all areas in MX are shitholes.

So question. If things are so out of control in MX, Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala, why isn't the UN going in? Why is there not pressure from the civilized world to get shit under control? If things are so horrible that all persons from these countries should get a free pass into the US, why not just send military in to straighten shit out, right?

Or a reasonable case for asylum.

The UN isn’t going in because the US loves cocaine, cheap labor for US agribusiness, cheap land where old people can build walled off compounds to party like its 1952 and a dependent consumer base for shit like high fructose corn syrup would be my guess. The US has been sending “military” aid, advisers and arms to all those places for decades. The fact that pretty much all of the guns in Mexico come from the US might be another reason some interests in the US do not want to see Mexico get its “shit together”.

Anyhow, I agree it would be nice if a US Administration did pressure Mexico to get its shit together and start enforcing its own labor and environmental laws. A sure fire way to help speed this along would be defunding the cartels by decriminalizing drugs in the US.
 
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No. It didn’t really make any sense. Thanks for checking in though.

it makes perfect sense. do you minimize danger to your family and realize simple safety, or do you maximize danger while feeding the gangs you're fleeing to prioritize economic benefit over the safety of your children.

but nice try.
 

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Or a reasonable case for asylum.

The UN isn’t going in because the US loves cocaine, cheap labor for US agribusiness, cheap land where old people can build walled off compounds to party like its 1952 and a dependent consumer base for shit like high fructose corn syrup would be my guess. The US has been sending “military” aid, advisers and arms to all those places for decades. The fact that pretty much all of the guns in Mexico come from the US might be another reason some interests in the US do not want to see Mexico get its “shit together”.

Anyhow, I agree it would be nice if a US Administration did pressure Mexico to get its shit together and start enforcing its own labor and environmental laws. A sure fire way to help speed this along would be defunding the cartels by decriminalizing drugs in the US.

LOL. The US loves cocaine. You mean the West and NE love Cocaine. The great majority of the top 20 cocaine using states are liberal. As far as labor goes, the liberals are the ones complaining that Trump is creating labor shortages. So you're saying the liberals don't want the UN to help?

I'm fine with decriminalizing drug use, not drug dealing. I'm definitely for legalizing pot. If you're for cutting off revenue streams to the cartel, then you should be for cutting off the billions of dollars the cartels make off of illegal immigrant smuggling. right?

You love to blame every country's problems on the US... it's complete crap. Did you know Panama and Honduras are huge sources of guns in CA and MX. Honestly I don't give a shit where they get their guns. The fact is the MX and the Triangle countries are corrupt as all get out. A strong border would help fight the movement of guns south. Right?

And..... If guns are the problem, why does everyone want to come to the country that has the most guns per capita?
 
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Lately I have been seeing #WalkAway listed on Twitter and referenced a few other places. Other than just the briefest peek into clicking on the hastag and reading a few of the tweets there, I didn't really have too much information. I saw the below article today (yes I know PJ media is from the right), but it is the first thing I read about the movement in an informational way.
I wondered if any of you were familiar with anything regarding this and had any further info.

White Millennials Are Leaving the Democratic Party as 'Walk Away' Campaign Picks Up Steam

This is the premise of the "Walk Away" campaign. Brandon Straka, a gay man from Nebraska, identified himself as "The Unsilent Majority" and launched a campaign urging people to reject the Left — for the same reasons he became a liberal.

In the "Walk Away" viral video, Straka denounced racism, misogyny, "tyrannical group think," junk science, "hate," and "a system which allows an ambitious, misinformed, and dogmatic mob to suppress free speech, create false narratives, and apathetically steamroll over the truth." He said he became a liberal for these reasons, and he "walked away" for the very same reasons.

"For years now, I have watched as the left has devolved into intolerant, inflexible, illogical, hateful, misguided, ill-informed, un-American, hypocritical, menacing, callous, ignorant, narrow-minded, and at times blatantly fascistic behavior and rhetoric," Straka declared.
 

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Wait, so I was a part of a movement before it was even a movement? Cool.
 

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The silent majority is working so well, but a vocal one would be so much better.

We are here and the rest are coming.


#WINNING
 
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