Politics

[irishpat183]

I posted census stats months ago on here abiut this topic. More people are leaving CA than coming in. Same with businesses. I'm not saying CA will have a population of 300,000 next year. My point is people are leaving, the state is going to lose a lot of tax revenue, and it's already beyond broke. I smell a bailout...

These California cities could be next in bankruptcy

 

[phgreek]

2017 newscast...

"In surprising news it has been found that Donald Duck voted 47,592 times in the election that essentially turned Texas blue back in 2014... each time for democrat candidates... This comes after the discovery of similar voting records for Howard Hughes, Martha Washington and Nicole Brown Simpson… Unfortunately for Republicans crying foul, the entire state has since been redistricted by state democrats…”

...yup...

But I'm guessing there are Fake ID mills popping up all over in anticipation of voter ID laws...and Mr. Soros' instructions are clear...they won't service the living...hehehe.

 

[GoIrish41]

The leftists get what they want, conservatives get what they want. If there is failure we know why and same with success.

What's your idea? My guess is I'll wait just as long for this answer as I am for your claiming my facts on ACA are opinion. Yawn...guess Chris Matthews still hasn't amswered your tweet for help.

Maybe you are onto something ... Perhaps the blue states would benefit from getting rid of the great red drain on government spending. I heard somewhere that 47 percent of Americans are "takers" who consider themselves entitled. Is anyone surprised at where the worst of these takers live? Article is a little dated, but it speaks to the point.

Blue state, red face: Guess who benefits more from your taxes?

 

[ND NYC]

would love it if for every dollar a state sent to wash DC in federal tax money, they would get a dollar back.

 

[woolybug25]

Maybe you are onto something ... Perhaps the blue states would benefit from getting rid of the great red drain on government spending. I heard somewhere that 47 percent of Americans are "takers" who consider themselves entitled. Is anyone surprised at where the worst of these takers live? Article is a little dated, but it speaks to the point.

Blue state, red face: Guess who benefits more from your taxes?

Top Takers
1. New Mexico
2. Mississippi
3. Alaska
4. Louisiana
5. W. Virginia
6. N. Dakota
7. Alabama
8. S. Dakota
9. Virginia
10. Kentucky

States that give more to the federal government in taxes than they get in return.
1. New Jersey
2. Nevada
3. Connecticut
4 New Hampshire
5. Minnesota
6. Illinois
7. Delaware
8. California
9. New York
10. Colorado

Interesting read.

 

[GoIrish41]

Top Takers
1. New Mexico
2. Mississippi
3. Alaska
4. Louisiana
5. W. Virginia
6. N. Dakota
7. Alabama
8. S. Dakota
9. Virginia
10. Kentucky

States that give more to the federal government in taxes than they get in return.
1. New Jersey
2. Nevada
3. Connecticut
4 New Hampshire
5. Minnesota
6. Illinois
7. Delaware
8. California
9. New York
10. Colorado

Interesting read.

"So spare me all that red state angst about the federal deficits and national debt. When you stop spending New Jersey’s money, Tex, and produce a plan to replace it with your own revenue stream, then you've earned an opinion in the matter."

I think the author wrote his concluding paragraph just for Pat. lol

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

The Daily Show did a bit with that as the topic back during the 2012 election.

RNC 2012 - The Road to Jeb Bush 2016 - The Best F#@king News Team Ever Audits America - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 08/31/12 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

 

[wizards8507]

Did you guys know that USC has a propaganda arm used to push the liberal agenda through Hollywood (not that they need much help)? This is very real.

Hollywood, Health & Society | $500,000 Grant for Obamacare Education

The California Endowment announced a $500,000 grant for Obamacare education to Hollywood Health & Society, a program at the USC Annenberg Norman Lear Center that provides entertainment industry professionals with accurate and timely information for storylines on health and climate change. The 18-month grant will be used to inform television writers, producers, and others involved in television programming on Obamacare facts and implementation information in California and nationwide.

 

[phgreek]

Maybe you are onto something ... Perhaps the blue states would benefit from getting rid of the great red drain on government spending. I heard somewhere that 47 percent of Americans are "takers" who consider themselves entitled. Is anyone surprised at where the worst of these takers live? Article is a little dated, but it speaks to the point.

Blue state, red face: Guess who benefits more from your taxes?

I've seen this...ok

...first of all military spending - not their fault ...strategic reasons for their location regarding national security...Military can't be counted in a responsible assessment.

Retirement can't be counted in a responsible assessment since it connotes...I don't know...someone who might have...provided value, and many of them are running to retire in red states where many hailed from Blue states...

I think its probably a bad idea to complain in either direction in terms of distribution of tax dollars ...I will say generating a lot of revenue is not a license for fiscal stupidity...

 

[ACamp1900]

More fun with stupid data...

A Tale of Two Charts | Consider, Reconsider

The True Irony Behind Leftist Complaints Over “Red State Socialism” | Liberty Haven

Red State, Blue State: Which States Have Received the Most Federal Funds Since 2000? | TheBlaze.com

Articles: The Myth of Red State Welfare

 

[GoIrish41]

Did you guys know that USC has a propaganda arm used to push the liberal agenda through Hollywood (not that they need much help)? This is very real.

Hollywood, Health & Society | $500,000 Grant for Obamacare Education

The California Endowment announced a $500,000 grant for Obamacare education to Hollywood Health & Society, a program at the USC Annenberg Norman Lear Center that provides entertainment industry professionals with accurate and timely information for storylines on health and climate change. The 18-month grant will be used to inform television writers, producers, and others involved in television programming on Obamacare facts and implementation information in California and nationwide.

The Tea Party has a similar program, funded by millions of dollars from the Koch Brothers to provide the general public with INaccurate information on health and climate change. This USC program is a good thing. They are trying to overcome nonsense about death panels and how rates are skyrocketing across the country -- the results of a propaganda campaign to scare people away from the new law.

 

[ACamp1900]

This USC program is a good thing. They are trying to overcome nonsense about death panels and how rates are skyrocketing across the country -- the results of a propaganda campaign to scare people away from the new law.

 

[irishpat183]

Top Takers
1. New Mexico
2. Mississippi
3. Alaska
4. Louisiana
5. W. Virginia
6. N. Dakota
7. Alabama
8. S. Dakota
9. Virginia
10. Kentucky

States that give more to the federal government in taxes than they get in return.
1. New Jersey
2. Nevada
3. Connecticut
4 New Hampshire
5. Minnesota
6. Illinois
7. Delaware
8. California
9. New York
10. Colorado

Interesting read.

I'd like to know what % of those people are dems or repubs?

 

[irishpat183]

[/URL][/IMG]

 

[GoIrish41]

Yeah, you are right. It is probably better that nobody try to provide people accurate information about a brand new federal program that affects millions of people. And nobody gets their information from TV anyway, so why reach out to the people who produce TV programming. We should just let the Koch Brothers-funded organizations continue to drive the messaging and scare people. What was I thinking?

 

[phgreek]

More fun with stupid data...

A Tale of Two Charts | Consider, Reconsider

The True Irony Behind Leftist Complaints Over “Red State Socialism” | Liberty Haven

Red State, Blue State: Which States Have Received the Most Federal Funds Since 2000? | TheBlaze.com

Articles: The Myth of Red State Welfare

lemme save everyone some time...

these are despicable human beings, who by virtue of their politics can't do math...so your sources mean nothing...

 

[irishpat183]

lemme save everyone some time...

these are despicable human beings, who by virtue of their politics can't do math...so your sources mean nothing...

they don't care about anyone but the rich....thank God there are no rich on the left. The left only cares about me.

 

[ACamp1900]

Yeah, you are right. It is probably better that nobody try to provide people accurate information about a brand new federal program that affects millions of people. And nobody gets their information from TV anyway, so why reach out to the people who produce TV programming. We should just let the Koch Brothers-funded organizations continue to drive the messaging and scare people. What was I thinking?

The Koch brothers are just trying to save people from the Independent Payment Advisory Board which= Rationing Board which= Palin’s Death Panel…

and the data on global warming was such that it called for yet another name change/re-branding just to keep the movement from collapsing entirely... thank goodness some out there are still willing to tell the truth...

See how easy that is…hopefully we can agree it’s not the best route to applaud certain attempts to mind job people simply because some attempts may match your own agenda, while condemning others simply because they don’t… both sides lie through their freakin teeth to gain power.

 

[MJ12666]

"So spare me all that red state angst about the federal deficits and national debt. When you stop spending New Jersey’s money, Tex, and produce a plan to replace it with your own revenue stream, then you've earned an opinion in the matter."

I think the author wrote his concluding paragraph just for Pat. lol

The stats that you are referring to simply reflect how ignorant voters are. Residing in NJ it makes absolutely no sense to vote liberal Democratic into Federal political office (the opposite would be true for voters in states like MS and SC). The simple reason being is that NJ ranks at the top of states as far as income so it would benefit the NJ to have the lowest possible federal income tax rates, keeping more money in the state to either be taxed by the NJ government and/or spent locally to help the economy. Yet I guarantee that NJ will elect Booker next week. I have often explained this to people, they agree, and then they vote the Democrat line. Simply amazing.

 

[connor_in]

lemme save everyone some time...

these are despicable human beings, who by virtue of their politics can't do math...so your sources mean nothing...

...not to mention Koch Brothers...'nuff sed...

 

[phgreek]

they don't care about anyone but the rich....thank God there are no rich on the left. The left only cares about me.

...you are just better at this...

 

[irishpat183]

The stats that you are referring to simply reflect how ignorant voters are. Residing in NJ it makes absolutely no sense to vote liberal Democratic into Federal political office (the opposite would be true for voters in states like MS and SC). The simple reason being is that NJ ranks at the top of states as far as income so it would benefit the NJ to have the lowest possible federal income tax rates, keeping more money in the state to either be taxed by the NJ government and/or spent locally to help the economy. Yet I guarantee that NJ will elect Booker next week. I have often explained this to people, they agree, and then they vote the Democrat line. Simply amazing.

Not really a suprise...after all, the right wants to cut off your health care and let you "die in the streets", burn the earth, take away your right to kill babies...etc.

I mean, who DOESN'T want to vote democrat!

 

[irishpat183]

...you are just better at this...

Just call me "The Ax".

I dont' beat around the bush...I chop that bitch down.

 

[MJ12666]

Yeah, you are right. It is probably better that nobody try to provide people accurate information about a brand new federal program that affects millions of people. And nobody gets their information from TV anyway, so why reach out to the people who produce TV programming. We should just let the Koch Brothers-funded organizations continue to drive the messaging and scare people. What was I thinking?

You could solicit funds from liberals like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet,and George Clooney to counter the Koch bothers propaganda with liberal propaganda. Using the education system to accomplish this task effectively forces individuals who do not agree with the liberal point of view to help fund it.

 

[phgreek]

Did you guys know that USC has a propaganda arm used to push the liberal agenda through Hollywood (not that they need much help)? This is very real.

Hollywood, Health & Society | $500,000 Grant for Obamacare Education

The California Endowment announced a $500,000 grant for Obamacare education to Hollywood Health & Society, a program at the USC Annenberg Norman Lear Center that provides entertainment industry professionals with accurate and timely information for storylines on health and climate change. The 18-month grant will be used to inform television writers, producers, and others involved in television programming on Obamacare facts and implementation information in California and nationwide.

<insert mad reference to masters of propaganda from history>...In all seriousness though...this doesn't cause anyone to be concerned a little since what we are talking about is feeding media data for redistribution without a contra opinion...and for anyone who thinks this is simply entertainment...I give you the Oliver Stone effect. fvck why not just have the Obama administration shove their hands up Hollywood's ***...wait...

 

[ACamp1900]

Somewhere in hell Howard Zinn dying laughing

 

[GoIrish41]

The stats that you are referring to simply reflect how ignorant voters are. Residing in NJ it makes absolutely no sense to vote liberal Democratic into Federal political office (the opposite would be true for voters in states like MS and SC). The simple reason being is that NJ ranks at the top of states as far as income so it would benefit the NJ to have the lowest possible federal income tax rates, keeping more money in the state to either be taxed by the NJ government and/or spent locally to help the economy. Yet I guarantee that NJ will elect Booker next week. I have often explained this to people, they agree, and then they vote the Democrat line. Simply amazing.

Disagreeing with you does not speak to the collective ignorance of the state of New Jersey. Perhaps they vote liberal because they actually believe in liberal policies.

 

[phgreek]

You could solicit funds from liberals like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet,and George Clooney to counter the Koch bothers propaganda with liberal propaganda. Using the education system to accomplish this task effectively forces individuals who do not agree with the liberal point of view to help fund it.

Indeed...

 

[GoIrish41]

You could solicit funds from liberals like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet,and George Clooney to counter the Koch bothers propaganda with liberal propaganda. Using the education system to accomplish this task effectively forces individuals who do not agree with the liberal point of view to help fund it.

You understand that this isn't being funded by the federal or even a state government. It is being funded by a private healthcare endowment. It is not as if the federal government is using taxpayer dollars to hire USC to create a propaganda program. We can all just assume that this USC education program is going to be propaganda, but what if the healthcare endowment really intends to educate people about what Obamacare really is? What if it isn't an attempt to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. It isn't causing anyone to help fund anything. It is a private organization trying to tell people what a new law is about through existing media that they are already watching.

 

[GoIrish41]

<insert mad reference to masters of propaganda from history>...In all seriousness though...this doesn't cause anyone to be concerned a little since what we are talking about is feeding media data for redistribution without a contra opinion...and for anyone who thinks this is simply entertainment...I give you the Oliver Stone effect. fvck why not just have the Obama administration shove their hands up Hollywood's ***...wait...

because it isn't federal money that is funding this program, it is no different than what the Koch Brothers are doing.