Police State USA

[Bluto]

Dude...ISVT was the bomb in the 80's too! Sorority girls pouring in from the western US to party....I mean play volleyball.

I saw the Ramones for free at the Anaconda Theatre way back when. After the show a couple of sorority sisters invited me back to their place. We had a nice chat over some tea. It was a real special time.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Anyone surprised at this?

That you or any other lib would be upset about one dishonest photo, but never bat an eye about 10,000 dishonest news articles? Nah. Not a bit surprised.

 

[TorontoGold]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-...nd-republicans-are-his-submissives?ref=scroll

Damn Bill Maher really went in on this one. Lindsey Graham being a sub should not surprise anyone lololol

 

[Irish YJ]

Fox News runs digitally altered images in coverage of Seattle’s protests, Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (Seattle Times)


This digitally manipulated image was published on the Fox News homepage on June 12 with stories about Seattle. The image combines scenes from a June 10 photograph from Capitol Hill with two May 30 images from downtown.

Anyone surprised at this?

I posted the original image of the man with the gun. Anyone with a brain can tell the top photo was a combo of pics given the obvious blending in the middle. And all the pics were from Seattle. Not something to clutch pearls over. Perhaps they just should have asked the guy with the AR to stand in front of a broken window? I'll send a suggestion to Fox for you.

I agree they shouldn't have posted rioters burning MN over Seattle stories. The description "Crazy Town" is more than applicable to both though.

And wasn't the ST that made no mention of CHAZ on the front page when it happened, relegating it to page 9? CNN only mentioned it once the day it happened, MSNBC no mention at all.

Anyone surprised at this?

 

[Irish YJ]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-...nd-republicans-are-his-submissives?ref=scroll

Damn Bill Maher really went in on this one. Lindsey Graham being a sub should not surprise anyone lololol

He also said Dems were dumb AF for the whole defund the police thing. That didn't make the headline though of course.

Honestly though, I could see Trump as the sub.

 

[Irish YJ]

Who knew that video games would help contribute to our collective ruin.

That's why I keep away from that evil "What video game are you playing" thread.

We should have stayed with Pac Man. That way folks would just be eating each other, and a lot happier.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

I posted the original image of the man with the gun. Anyone with a brain can tell the top photo was a combo of pics given the obvious blending in the middle. And all the pics were from Seattle. Not something to clutch pearls over. Perhaps they just should have asked the guy with the AR to stand in front of a broken window? I'll send a suggestion to Fox for you.

I agree they shouldn't have posted rioters burning MN over Seattle stories. The description "Crazy Town" is more than applicable to both though.

And wasn't the ST that made no mention of CHAZ on the front page when it happened, relegating it to page 9? CNN only mentioned it once the day it happened, MSNBC no mention at all.

Anyone surprised at this?

I am. CNN and MSNBC are known for their exceptional balanced journalism and world-class journalists like Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo. The Pulitzer is outdated and should be renamed the Chris-Lemon Award

 

[NorthDakota]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-...nd-republicans-are-his-submissives?ref=scroll

Damn Bill Maher really went in on this one. Lindsey Graham being a sub should not surprise anyone lololol

Never have or will understand Dems weird fascination with Lindsey Graham. Idk if hes gay or not, not particularly important either. I thought Dems were big on letting people live their best life no matter what?

 

[Irish YJ]

I am. CNN and MSNBC are known for their exceptional balanced journalism and world-class journalists like Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo. The Pulitzer is outdated and should be renamed the Chris-Lemon Award

My personal favorite was MSNBC's reporter talking about "mostly peaceful" protest while standing in front of a burning business. And pretty much both CNN and MSNBC with the lack of coverage of fires and looting. The Seattle Mayor was hilarious playing things down, when at the same time the Gov acts like he doesn't even know what's going on, yet the AA female Police Chief is saying something completely different.

 

[Irish YJ]

Never have or will understand Dems weird fascination with Lindsey Graham. Idk if hes gay or not, not particularly important either. I thought Dems were big on letting people live their best life no matter what?

They probably see him as a LGBTxxxx traitor...

 

[Irish YJ]

So what do you all think about the officer involved shooting last night in ATL?

The short of it (from what I've read thus far)... Guy passes out in a drive thru, cops are called. Cops show up and administer sobriety test, which man fails. While attempting to arrest the guy, the guy resists, steals the cops taser, and starts running. While running, he turns back and fires the taser at the cop, and the cop fires back almost instantly, killing the guy.

The mayor has now pushed the Police Chief out, and is calling for the firing the the cop.

IDK. Let's say the cop doesn't shoot, but the guy is successful in stunning the cop, and takes his gun. Is it really OK for someone to resist, steal a cops weapon, and then try to stun a cop? It might be borderline, but I really can't blame the cop in what was a real time decision. I don't see a court putting this cop in jail.

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A witness's phone vid of the resisting
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[Ndaccountant]

So what do you all think about the officer involved shooting last night in ATL?

The short of it (from what I've read thus far)... Guy passes out in a drive thru, cops are called. Cops show up and administer sobriety test, which man fails. While attempting to arrest the guy, the guy resists, steals the cops taser, and starts running. While running, he turns back and fires the taser at the cop, and the cop fires back almost instantly, killing the guy.

The mayor has now pushed the Police Chief out, and is calling for the firing the the cop.

IDK. Let's say the cop doesn't shoot, but the guy is successful in stunning the cop, and takes his gun. Is it really OK for someone to resist, steal a cops weapon, and then try to stun a cop? It might be borderline, but I really can't blame the cop in what was a real time decision. I don't see a court putting this cop in jail.

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A witness's phone vid of the resisting
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I think this is part of what everyone is talking about.

On one hand, if they man just cooperates, he is alive today.

On the other hand, is killing a man as he is running away from a DUI justice?

Again, not all the facts are in, but if this guy was running away, why not let the guy go and pick him up in a day or two? They obviously would know who he is and it's not like the guy was an immediate threat to the community on foot. So unless more comes out, I think this is one where lethal force is unwarranted.

 

[Irish YJ]

I think this is part of what everyone is talking about.

On one hand, if they man just cooperates, he is alive today.

On the other hand, is killing a man as he is running away from a DUI justice?

Again, not all the facts are in, but if this guy was running away, why not let the guy go and pick him up in a day or two? They obviously would know who he is and it's not like the guy was an immediate threat to the community on foot. So unless more comes out, I think this is one where lethal force is unwarranted.

He really wasn't just running away. He assaulted officers, stole a weapon (stun gun), and looks to have fired that stun gun at the officer. And if someone is willing to do that, do we really know if he is or isn't an immediate threat to himself or others. Do we just let folks who break the law simply get away if they run?

Not wishing the guy dead, but let's not pretend it was just a DUI.

 

[TorontoGold]

Never have or will understand Dems weird fascination with Lindsey Graham. Idk if hes gay or not, not particularly important either. I thought Dems were big on letting people live their best life no matter what?

Post 2016 obsession has to do with him being a complete cuck to Trump. Called him a race baiting bigot before the election, and now worships him. What a joke.

 

[NorthDakota]

Post 2016 obsession has to do with him being a complete cuck to Trump. Called him a race baiting bigot before the election, and now worships him. What a joke.

No. It predates the Trump stuff. This has been going on for a hot minute.

Why not attack him for being on Team Trump then instead of calling him a homo? To me it just shows many libs don't really support the gay community. They look at them like degenerates apparently or else they wouldnt use that time insult Graham.

 

[Ndaccountant]

He really wasn't just running away. He assaulted officers, stole a weapon (stun gun), and looks to have fired that stun gun at the officer. And if someone is willing to do that, do we really know if he is or isn't an immediate threat to himself or others. Do we just let folks who break the law simply get away if they run?

Not wishing the guy dead, but let's not pretend it was just a DUI.

I'm not saying it was just a DUI. But if they were worried about the weapon, wouldn't they have shot him during the struggle for said weapon? I don't think use of deadly force was warranted at the point in time it was administered.

Finally, would he really get away? No. They just arrest him a day or two later.

 

[Irish YJ]

No. It predates the Trump stuff. This has been going on for a hot minute.

Why not attack him for being on Team Trump then instead of calling him a homo? To me it just shows many libs don't really support the gay community. They look at them like degenerates apparently or else they wouldnt use that time insult Graham.

The libs don't really care about the gay or black community. I don't agree with everything Malcolm X, but he hit the nail on the head when it comes to liberals. He had a lot to say on the topic, and addressed it several times. The same thing applies to the gay community.

Here's a few.

Malcolm X said: "The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn't taken, tricked or deceived by the white liberal, then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America, the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white man."

https://youtu.be/T3PaqxblOx0?t=46

 

[Irish YJ]

I'm not saying it was just a DUI. But if they were worried about the weapon, wouldn't they have shot him during the struggle for said weapon? I don't think use of deadly force was warranted at the point in time it was administered.

Finally, would he really get away? No. They just arrest him a day or two later.

Come on now. Who's to say he's just going to go home and sleep it off. Who's to say he doesn't go get behind the wheel yet again. Now he knows the police are after him, and who knows what he might do. If you're willing to fight cops, not sure you can trust someone to just go home and be arrested peacefully in a few days. And what would happen if they let someone go, he gets another car, and kills someone. Then the cops are bad for not arresting him.

If they shot him while he's going for, and stealing the weapon, then the cops are still the bad guy. At least the cop waited until he was fired on before he shot.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Come on now. Who's to say he's just going to go home and sleep it off. Who's to say he doesn't go get behind the wheel yet again. Now he knows the police are after him, and who knows what he might do. If you're willing to fight cops, not sure you can trust someone to just go home and be arrested peacefully in a few days. And what would happen if they let someone go, he gets another car, and kills someone. Then the cops are bad for not arresting him.

If they shot him while he's going for, and stealing the weapon, then the cops are still the bad guy. At least the cop waited until he was fired on before he shot.

It's clear we don't see eye to eye on this. My position is clear.

 

[TorontoGold]

No. It predates the Trump stuff. This has been going on for a hot minute.

Why not attack him for being on Team Trump then instead of calling him a homo? To me it just shows many libs don't really support the gay community. They look at them like degenerates apparently or else they wouldnt use that time insult Graham.

Nah, there's a really good Biden add out there that shows Lindsey saying a bunch of good things about Biden and bad things about the Bunker Bitch.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Come on now. Who's to say he's just going to go home and sleep it off. Who's to say he doesn't go get behind the wheel yet again. Now he knows the police are after him, and who knows what he might do. If you're willing to fight cops, not sure you can trust someone to just go home and be arrested peacefully in a few days. And what would happen if they let someone go, he gets another car, and kills someone. Then the cops are bad for not arresting him.

If they shot him while he's going for, and stealing the weapon, then the cops are still the bad guy. At least the cop waited until he was fired on before he shot.

This is the big disconnect between people who have never fought with/arrested someone. The guy turns around and tried to stun the cop. If the cop got tased, hes incapacitated at that point. Theres reasonable belief that the cop would be seriously hurt/killed and then his gun taken from him/shot. You cannot logically expect a cop to willfully get tased and just hope/pray nothing bad happens after that. That absurdity in that belief is mind boggling and im blown away that people whole heartedly believe that.

 

[Irish YJ]

Nah, there's a really good Biden add out there that shows Lindsey saying a bunch of good things about Biden and bad things about the Bunker Bitch.

So is Lindsey good because he said good things about Biden, and bad things about Trump?
And now bad because he's changed course? Why is it a "really good Biden add"? lol.

What about Pelosi and Biden (and every other veteran liberal) saying great things about increased border security, but now are for open borders and HC for undocumented. Where they bad then and good now? Is it only good when libs change their tune?

Politicians change tunes more than folks change underwear.

 

[Irish YJ]

This is the big disconnect between people who have never fought with/arrested someone. The guy turns around and tried to stun the cop. If the cop got tased, hes incapacitated at that point. Theres reasonable belief that the cop would be seriously hurt/killed and then his gun taken from him/shot. You cannot logically expect a cop to willfully get tased and just hope/pray nothing bad happens after that. That absurdity in that belief is mind boggling and im blown away that people whole heartedly believe that.

Yup, I don't get it either. And to think he should be allowed to flee is mind boggling to me as well. If he's willing to attack an officer, how can we assume he'll just go home and wait to be peacefully arrested.

It's a bad situation, perhaps borderline, but I certainly can't fault the officer given what transpired.

There's a presser going on right now, and the guy speaking (not sure who he is) said it was obvious in the video that the officers were afraid, but if you're afraid, you shouldn't be a police officer. Wut???

Anyway, I'm sure things will fire up again here in Hotlanta.

 

[TorontoGold]

So is Lindsey good because he said good things about Biden, and bad things about Trump?
And now bad because he's changed course? Why is it a "really good Biden add"? lol.

What about Pelosi and Biden (and every other veteran liberal) saying great things about increased border security, but now are for open borders and HC for undocumented. Where they bad then and good now? Is it only good when libs change their tune?

Politicians change tunes more than folks change underwear.

Weak analysis. Lindsey is soft as baby shit because hes being cucked by Trump. The ad is good for Biden because it shows Lindsey saying a ton of good things. Didnt think it needed to be spelled out, however considering the audience....

If you know my posting history and saw what Praet and I were saying yesterday, I think the old school Dems are windbags that placate people with fancy words and no action. I don't have little blue undies...

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Yup, I don't get it either. And to think he should be allowed to flee is mind boggling to me as well. If he's willing to attack an officer, how can we assume he'll just go home and wait to be peacefully arrested.

It's a bad situation, perhaps borderline, but I certainly can't fault the officer given what transpired.

There's a presser going on right now, and the guy speaking (not sure who he is) said it was obvious in the video that the officers were afraid, but if you're afraid, you shouldn't be a police officer. Wut???

Anyway, I'm sure things will fire up again here in Hotlanta.

Yeah I mean you have to be a robot with absolutely no emotion and have no fear of death. Its a tragedy but you cant fault the cop. Also, to the post as to why didnt he shoot him in the struggle? Your trained to holster your gun when arresting and especially fighting with someone because in a struggle you can shoot yourself, accidently shoot the person, or have the gun taken from you with ease (which is probably how the taser was taken).

Pretty simple. Dont steal a weapon from a cop and then point that weapon at the cop.

 

[irishff1014]

This is the big disconnect between people who have never fought with/arrested someone. The guy turns around and tried to stun the cop. If the cop got tased, hes incapacitated at that point. Theres reasonable belief that the cop would be seriously hurt/killed and then his gun taken from him/shot. You cannot logically expect a cop to willfully get tased and just hope/pray nothing bad happens after that. That absurdity in that belief is mind boggling and im blown away that people whole heartedly believe that.

You know you aren't allowed to use your brain right?

 

[tommyIRISH23]

You know you aren't allowed to use your brain right?

haha fair point

 

[Irish YJ]

Weak analysis. Lindsey is soft as baby shit because hes being cucked by Trump. The ad is good for Biden because it shows Lindsey saying a ton of good things. Didnt think it needed to be spelled out, however considering the audience....

If you know my posting history and saw what Praet and I were saying yesterday, I think the old school Dems are windbags that placate people with fancy words and no action. I don't have little blue undies...

I don't think you have little blue undies. Maybe a blue g-string or something like that, but I actually think you change the color of your undies to suit your narrative and trolling.

 

[Irish YJ]

Yeah I mean you have to be a robot with absolutely no emotion and have no fear of death. Its a tragedy but you cant fault the cop. Also, to the post as to why didnt he shoot him in the struggle? Your trained to holster your gun when arresting and especially fighting with someone because in a struggle you can shoot yourself, accidently shoot the person, or have the gun taken from you with ease (which is probably how the taser was taken).

Pretty simple. Dont steal a weapon from a cop and then point that weapon at the cop.

The guy giving the presser was the family's lawyer (go figure). He said several other stupid things. He said in one breath that a taser wasn't a deadly weapon, then said he had tried to sue cops before for using a taser but it was ruled not to be a deadly weapon. He also said that they should have just woke him up and let him take an uber home if he was intoxicated.

 

[TorontoGold]

I don't think you have little blue undies. Maybe a blue g-string or something like that, but I actually think you change the color of your undies to suit your narrative and trolling.

Haha, I've been consistent since day 1. Trolling? I've seen people on this forum call for Americans to be shot dead, entire cities to burn, that the Coronavirus is a blue state only problem and that the country shouldn't care about them, nuclear war with China, and referring to Nancy Pelosi as Nazi Pelosi. So when I do any of that then maybe you unclutch those pearls.