Police State USA

[Sea Turtle]

I'm so glad I live way out in the country.

 

[NDRock]

I'm so glad I live way out in the country.

Agree. Bought 11 acres last year and plan on building in the Spring. No better time.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Mass. AG, yes, the person responsible for law and order, says sometimes it takes a city burning for the forest to grow.... Wonder what her thoughts would be if some rioters decided to visit her gated neighborhood and grant her wish... good lord how dumb.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Yes, America is burning," says <a href="https://twitter.com/MassAGO?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MassAGO</a> Maura Healey, "but that's how forests grow."<br><br>What a foul, reckless thing for anyone to say, let alone an attorney general. People are dying in these riots. Families are being ruined. And Healey cheers? Despicable.<a href="https://t.co/3JfvupKBOl">https://t.co/3JfvupKBOl</a></p>— Jeff Jacoby (@Jeff_Jacoby) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jeff_Jacoby/status/1267893928868667392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It was a terrible quote, but that headline really distorts the message. Her message wasn't that the voilence is okay, but that this is an opportunity for white leaders to reach our to others to better understand their point of view. She also went on to describe, in her words, her failings as an AG.

Example

“I support calls for a revolution, but not the revolution of violence in our streets,” Healey said. “I’m calling for a revolution in mindset, a fundamental change to our ingrained assumptions.”

There have been some really stupid things said by city, state and federal leaders. I just don't see this as anything more than a gotcha headline.

 

[Circa]

I'm so glad I live way out in the country.

As long as your not in any major city... You'll be fine. This propaganda and shit show is disgusting.

I'm all for equality but the media learned how to push buttons without.... any real harm done.... (debatable)

Stay outta the Neon signs that are begging for your opinion my friends.

 

[Irish YJ]

It was a terrible quote, but that headline really distorts the message. Her message wasn't that the voilence is okay, but that this is an opportunity for white leaders to reach our to others to better understand their point of view. She also went on to describe, in her words, her failings as an AG.

Example

There have been some really stupid things said by city, state and federal leaders. I just don't see this as anything more than a gotcha headline.

Dude, it's not just that. She's a train wreck. The Boston Police hate her with a vengeance. If you know anything about her, you know she's a silver spoon ultra lib SJW. She pushes her pro abortion, anti gun, anti Trump agenda with 100x more effort than actually doing her job, which is to be the chief law enforcement officer of her state.

Here's a little message the PBA sent her today lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rachel Rollins “ we are being murdered at will by the police “<br>Maura Healey “ yes America is burning .But that’s how forests grow.”<br>Is this Love ? Or Hate ? For America <a href="https://t.co/DxjERVAlS4">pic.twitter.com/DxjERVAlS4</a></p>— Jim Lyons (@JimLyonsMA) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimLyonsMA/status/1267941495669239808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Ndaccountant]

Dude, it's not just that. She's a train wreck. The Boston Police hate her with a vengeance. If you know anything about her, you know she's a silver spoon ultra lib SJW. She pushes her pro abortion, anti gun, anti Trump agenda with 100x more effort than actually doing her job, which is to be the chief law enforcement officer of her state.

Here's a little message the PBA sent her today lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rachel Rollins “ we are being murdered at will by the police “<br>Maura Healey “ yes America is burning .But that’s how forests grow.”<br>Is this Love ? Or Hate ? For America <a href="https://t.co/DxjERVAlS4">pic.twitter.com/DxjERVAlS4</a></p>— Jim Lyons (@JimLyonsMA) <a href="https://twitter.com/JimLyonsMA/status/1267941495669239808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Okay. That's fine. But that still doesn't change the fact that her message in that call wasn't advocating violence, which is what the headline inferred.

 

[Irish YJ]

Okay. That's fine. But that still doesn't change the fact that her message in that call wasn't advocating violence, which is what the headline inferred.

Purely my opinion, but her CYA was BS. The business owners don't want to hear her preach at them about burning cities and starting over, they want their businesses and families protected. Meanwhile, she's pontificating (likely looking forward to the next political stop) and throwing her on PD under the bus.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Yep. Too many people brainwashed these days...

I've seen several studies on incarceration. There's a ton of data out there that blows up a lot of narratives. The left simply ignores it. And what is funny, there have been some good articles about the myths published by some left sources like you said.

Here's a few
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2019.html

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/30/15591700/mass-incarceration-john-pfaff-locked-in

There's a better one (actual study), but I can't remember enough to find it via google. I'll try a bit later.

Im going to see if I can dig up my old syllabus and see if I can get you the name of the book

 

[Irish YJ]

Im going to see if I can dig up my old syllabus and see if I can get you the name of the book

Cool. Happy to check it out.

And to be clear, I'm totally against incarceration for 1st time non violent drug offenses (within reason, if you got a kilo of Bolivian marching powder, that's different). I'm just tired of hearing false narratives put out there by the far left. We should all be talking about the facts, regardless of what picture they paint.

 

[drayer54]

Joe Biden is reportedly going to the funeral of George Floyd. Nothing wrong with that. My question is which Democrats will be attending the funerals of the innocent cops who have been murdered in the past few days?

He's only going so he can tell other attendees that they ain't black.

 

[Irish YJ]

He's only going so he can tell other attendees that they ain't black.

With his personality, I can see him try to hijack stuff. The Floyd family is getting totally used...

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Okay. That's fine. But that still doesn't change the fact that her message in that call wasn't advocating violence, which is what the headline inferred.

lol murdered at will by police. This sensationalism is not helping and more should be expected from our elected leaders. 2019 data- 9 unarmed black men killed out of 236. (3.8%) 218 had some sort of weapon (%92.3). 2019 data- 20 unarmed white men killed out of 371. (5%) 336 out of 371 had weapons (91.3%). I get that representing 23% of the gun death while comprising 13% of the population is very imbalanced, and there needs to be reform, but again, an honest discussion considering the totality of the problem has to be a part of the discussion if we want to move forward.

People that don't have the know-how or ability to look up and verify what these political prostitute politicians claim to get votes believe this sensationalized bullshit and honestly believe police are hunting and killing black people at will. Our schools stopped teaching how to research and verify. Misinformation spreads like wild fire to impressionable minds. No wonder people are terrified.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Cool. Happy to check it out.

And to be clear, I'm totally against incarceration for 1st time non violent drug offenses (within reason, if you got a kilo of Bolivian marching powder, that's different). I'm just tired of hearing false narratives put out there by the far left. We should all be talking about the facts, regardless of what picture they paint.

Totally agree. NJ is pretty progressive with their drug laws. Usually it takes a 3/4 offense to get jail time with modest distribution level amounts of drugs.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Cool. Happy to check it out.

And to be clear, I'm totally against incarceration for 1st time non violent drug offenses (within reason, if you got a kilo of Bolivian marching powder, that's different). I'm just tired of hearing false narratives put out there by the far left. We should all be talking about the facts, regardless of what picture they paint.

Found it!

John Pfaff. (2017) Locked In.

Heres an article about the book from Vox
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/30/15591700/mass-incarceration-john-pfaff-locked-in

Im going to reread it. I had this course during a chaotic time in my life, I wish I wouldve focused more.

 

[Ndaccountant]

lol murdered at will by police. This sensationalism is not helping and more should be expected from our elected leaders. 2019 data- 9 unarmed black men killed out of 236. (3.8%) 218 had some sort of weapon (%92.3). 2019 data- 20 unarmed white men killed out of 371. (5%) 336 out of 371 had weapons (91.3%). I get that representing 23% of the gun death while comprising 13% of the population is very imbalanced, and there needs to be reform, but again, an honest discussion considering the totality of the problem has to be a part of the discussion if we want to move forward.

People that don't have the know-how or ability to look up and verify what these political prostitute politicians claim to get votes believe this sensationalized bullshit and honestly believe police are hunting and killing black people at will. Our schools stopped teaching how to research and verify. Misinformation spreads like wild fire to impressionable minds. No wonder people are terrified.

But I am not talking about the armed, unarmed, white, black or whatever. The police issue is a symptom, no the disease.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

But I am not talking about the armed, unarmed, white, black or whatever. The police issue is a symptom, no the disease.

100% agree. Ive wrote about it a few pages back. Check it out if youd like. Im too tired to rehash it all lol. If youve got the time, let me know what you think.

 

[Circa]

Life for our kids in 10 years Is gonna be great...


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[Irish YJ]

Found it!

John Pfaff. (2017) Locked In.

Heres an article about the book from Vox
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/30/15591700/mass-incarceration-john-pfaff-locked-in

Im going to reread it. I had this course during a chaotic time in my life, I wish I wouldve focused more.

That's one of the URLs I posted

 

[NorthDakota]

New York looks like a shit show. Sounds like cops were shot in Brooklyn?

 

[tommyIRISH23]

New York looks like a shit show. Sounds like cops were shot in Brooklyn?

Wonderful. The impotent mayor is still insisting its peaceful and not a problem. I bet 1000 vbucks Cuomo removes him from office before Sunday. Any takers?

 

[tommyIRISH23]

That's one of the URLs I posted

haha no shit. Great minds think alike !

 

[Irish YJ]

New York looks like a shit show. Sounds like cops were shot in Brooklyn?

Cops stopped a couple thousand protesters coming across the bridge from Brooklyn to Manhattan lol....

 

[tommyIRISH23]

So we've discussed the causes of these riots. How do we stop them? What are your guys thoughts?

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Life for our kids in 10 years Is gonna be great...


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Was just telling my gf that. For the first time ever, I have no idea what the next 10 years will look like and its terrifying...

 

[Irish YJ]

So we've discussed the causes of these riots. How do we stop them? What are your guys thoughts?

Simple. Do what ATL did. Bring in a heavy dose of National Guard, set a curfew, draw a line, and start arresting folks that violate it. We had very little arrests today. It's so uneventful, the local news isn't even airing live stuff tonight.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Simple. Do what ATL did. Bring in a heavy dose of National Guard, set a curfew, draw a line, and start arresting folks that violate it. We had very little arrests today. It's so uneventful, the local news isn't even airing live stuff tonight.

Agree. haha we agree on most stuff. Curious to see other opinions. Clearly there are other strategies at play that arent faring very well...

 

[Irish YJ]

I love the new "defund the police" narrative.

Sure, while you burn and loot, we'll just reduce funding to police forces that have probably already lost funding over the past 10 years... Good lord the level of crazy and stupid is incredible.

 

[tommyIRISH23]

I love the new "defund the police" narrative.

Sure, while you burn and loot, we'll just reduce funding to police forces that have probably already lost funding over the past 10 years... Good lord the level of crazy and stupid is incredible.

Yeah. "Fast response social workers " will definetely keep robbery, murder, and sex assault rates down. The robbers, murderers, and rapists just need the tender touch of a social worker and all will be ok

 

[Irish#1]

Your generation did it all stupid boomer,... millennials and z’s are charmin soft now. I’m lucky you bastards didn’t get power enough to neuter us X’ers. We are the only real ones left now. It’s like the Dawn of the Dead out here,.........

Except Boomers raised the X'ers and the X'ers raised the Mills and Zs.

 

[Wild Bill]

So we've discussed the causes of these riots. How do we stop them? What are your guys thoughts?

Run out of products?