PAC12 Discussion Thread

[BobbyMac]

Is this the "bombshell that will affect coaching legacies" that was being teased on Twitter earlier this week?

If so, I'm not gonna lie... I'm kind of disappointed. Allegations of recruiting violations and paying players are a wet-fart in today's media. All ASU has to do is deny, plead the 5th, and get players to refuse to talk about it. BOOM. You just got away with whatever you did, because that's how the game is played in these pre-NIL days.

Problem is, some Cali players went back to LA and ran their mouths apparently. The coaching legacy thing does interest me. Herm ain't got no legacy. Makes me think the Gift Card angle might be in this and suck in more programs. We'll see.

 

[Irish du Nord]

This has been brewing for a week. When Cali was shut down, half of SoCal was in AZ where stuff was still goin on including lots of 7v7 tournaments. So naturally some guys get on campus during dead periods because if you're a 17-18 year old, you're gonna end up on Mill Ave by ASU anyways cuz that's where the action is.

Question is, does this expand into other issues and if so, does the ASU staff bring down the rest of the cheaters in the gift card world of college recruiting?

Gonna be interesting to see who the snitch was, SC or UCLA? Could be Oregon I guess but if I were them, I wouldn't want them eyes on me... BUT Wrightster played at Oregon and is an LA guy who works out of LA.

I read Orgeron...talk about a guy not wanting eyes on him lol

 

[Dale]

They cheated their way to 17-13 overall, 11-11 in conference under Herm Edwards. LOL.

Jack Wagon country we live in, I swear. Hope it was worth it.

I mean I get it’s a joke but how does cheating this past year have anything to do with losses 2-3 years ago? ASU is absolutely on a upwards trajectory right now due to recruiting

 

[Dale]

This has been brewing for a week. When Cali was shut down, half of SoCal was in AZ where stuff was still goin on including lots of 7v7 tournaments. So naturally some guys get on campus during dead periods because if you're a 17-18 year old, you're gonna end up on Mill Ave by ASU anyways cuz that's where the action is.

Question is, does this expand into other issues and if so, does the ASU staff bring down the rest of the cheaters in the gift card world of college recruiting?

Gonna be interesting to see who the snitch was, SC or UCLA? Could be Oregon I guess but if I were them, I wouldn't want them eyes on me... BUT Wrightster played at Oregon and is an LA guy who works out of LA.

I just finally got around to closely reading the Yahoo article. It sounds like from inside or someone who WAS inside. Pierce’s head will roll if the report is accurate. Herm might survive if ASU wants to pin it all on him.

 

[Dale]

Is this the "bombshell that will affect coaching legacies" that was being teased on Twitter earlier this week?

If so, I'm not gonna lie... I'm kind of disappointed. Allegations of recruiting violations and paying players are a wet-fart in today's media. All ASU has to do is deny, plead the 5th, and get players to refuse to talk about it. BOOM. You just got away with whatever you did, because that's how the game is played in these pre-NIL days.

Disagree. Pierce and/or Herm will lose their job over it. Or “resign”. They, allegedly, have a stockpile of evidence and NCAA would love to knock down a second tier program and seem tough on COVID stuff. Bud Elliott surmised my media day.

 

[calvegas04]

Glad it is happening to ASU, their fans are terrible. Other than usc they are my least favorite pac 12 team

 

[BobbyMac]

Glad it is happening to ASU, their fans are terrible. Other than usc they are my least favorite pac 12 team

They are? I find them to be as passive as any unless U of A is in the conversation. 90% of them are uprooted from the Midwest and have other family allegiances. Very much remind me of IU & Purdue football fans. I go to a lot of games, always with some kind of Irish gear on and I get a gazillion Go Irish! comments and never anything else besides good natured ribbing After living in Scottsdale and Orange Co, it never ceases to amaze me how well ND resonates. Catholicism is strong mojo.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Glad it is happening to ASU, their fans are terrible. Other than usc they are my least favorite pac 12 team

I'm rooting for an 8-4 USC team to "make the playoff" and get absolutely smoked.

 

[calvegas04]

They are? I find them to be as passive as any unless U of A is in the conversation. 90% of them are uprooted from the Midwest and have other family allegiances. Very much remind me of IU & Purdue football fans. I go to a lot of games, always with some kind of Irish gear on and I get a gazillion Go Irish! comments and never anything else besides good natured ribbing After living in Scottsdale and Orange Co, it never ceases to amaze me how well ND resonates. Catholicism is strong mojo.

Went to the ND game in Tempe and their fans were assholes harassing my wife while we walked around, trying to fight us after the game. Haven't had that experience at other schools yet

 

[Dale]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/coachsamz/status/1419407508813275138?s=21[/TWEET]

LOL offer up the TEs coach who was a GA at the time

 

[Irish#1]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/coachsamz/status/1419407508813275138?s=21[/TWEET]

LOL offer up the TEs coach who was a GA at the time

Isn't that the second step in the process "Blame someone else" after "#1 Deny" fails?

 

[dublinirish]

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[dublinirish]

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[dublinirish]

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[dublinirish]

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[Huntr]

lmao what a moron.

 

[ulukinatme]

He's entitled to do what he wants. Really sucks for the assistants that were fired if they were compliant. Yeah, you should be vaxxed, but it shouldn't be a job mandate.
WSU's employee vaccination rate is 90%. At those numbers a few like this can slip through the cracks and still achieve herd immunity, especially if they're still masking, socially distancing, and quarantining.

 

[Rogue219]

Stupid hill to die on as far as I'm concerned, but whatever. Maybe he wanted to leave. He went from Hawaii to friggin Pullman, WA. Probably a worse life choice than not getting the vaccine.

Wake me up if Cristobal leaves Oregon. Wazzu is a job where nobody is going to win anything.

 

[ulukinatme]

I'm told Pullman is bitchin', that's why the alumni are insistent on keeping the flag tradition alive on College Gameday.

In reality they'll always be the #2 university in the state. Yachting outside the stadium for tailgates > anything Pullman can pull off.

 

[dublinirish]

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[ulukinatme]

It's not like Catholics always follow the church's direction. Look at Biden.

That said, it seems like the church hasn't taken a formal stance on the topic of the COVID vaccines. All that's been said (From what I can see) is people should strive to choose a vaccine that has the least connection to fetal tissues.

 

[NDShark]

I believe the pope and every sane human has pleaded for everyone to get vaccinated

 

[BrownerandFry]

The pope spoke. If Rolo ich did not want to get vaccinated,so be it. But don't be a slimy weasel. Have a pair Tim and tell Inslee to fist himself. Just don't clown Jesus and try to make Christ your antivaccine bitch.

 

[Rogue219]

It's not like Catholics always follow the church's direction. Look at Biden.

That said, it seems like the church hasn't taken a formal stance on the topic of the COVID vaccines. All that's been said (From what I can see) is people should strive to choose a vaccine that has the least connection to fetal tissues.

Best stay away from acetaminophen, albuterol, aspirin, ibuprofen, Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, Tums, Lipitor, Senokot, Motrin, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Benadryl, Sudafed, Preparation H, Claritin, Prilosec, and Zoloft too.

I have not been following much Wazzu Football as of late, so having tracked this all back to July, Rolovich's story doesn't feel very genuine if he is truly claiming religious persecution.

 

[Irish du Nord]

Best stay away from acetaminophen, albuterol, aspirin, ibuprofen, Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, Tums, Lipitor, Senokot, Motrin, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Benadryl, Sudafed, Preparation H, Claritin, Prilosec, and Zoloft too.

I have not been following much Wazzu Football as of late, so having tracked this all back to July, Rolovich's story doesn't feel very genuine if he is truly claiming religious persecution.

If my doctor took me off Tums I'd have an existential crisis

 

[Wild Bill]

The real question is how is this Serb a Catholic.

 

[BrownerandFry]

The real question is how is this Serb a Catholic.

your question, simply, is UNORTHODOX

Over the history of the Serbian Orthodox Church, the church has had many people who were venerated to sainthood. The list below contains some of those seints and their feast days.

Saint Sava I, fresco in the King's Church, Studenica Monastery, Serbia.

Saint Jovan Vladimir, Serbian Orthodox icon

Saint Stefan Uroš, fresco

• Venerable Avakum (Deacon Avakum) – 30 December [O.S. 17 December]
• Venerable Anastasia of Serbia (Ana Nemanjić) – 4 July [O.S. 21 June]
• Venerable Angelina of Serbia (Angelina Branković) – 12 August [O.S. 30 July] and 23 December [O.S. 10 December]
• Saint Arsenije I Sremac – 10 November [O.S. 28 October]
• Hieromartyr Branko Dobrosavljević – 7 May [O.S. 24 April]
• Saint Basil of Ostrog – 12 May [O.S. 29 April]
• Venerable Visarion Saraj – 3 November [O.S. 21 October]
• Saint Vladislav (King Stefan Vladislav) – 7 October [O.S. 24 September] and 12 August [O.S. 30 July]
• Martyr Vukašin of Klepci (Vukašin Mandrapa) – 29 May [O.S. 16 May]
• Venerable Gabriel of Lesnovo – 28 January [O.S. 15 January]
• Saint St. Gavrilo Rajić – 26 December [O.S. 13 December]
• Hieromartyr Georgije (Đorđe) Bogić – 17 July [O.S. 4 July]
• Venerable Grigorije of Gornjak – 20 December [O.S. 7 December]
• Saint Grigorije or Bishop Grigorije II of Ras – 12 September [O.S. 30 August]
• Venerable David (Dmitar Nemanjić) – 7 October [O.S. 24 September]
• Saint Danilo II (Archbishop Danilo II of Serbia) – 2 January [O.S. 20 December]
• Confessor Dositej Vasić (Metropolitan Bishop of Zagreb) – 13 January [O.S. 31 December]
• Saint New Martyr Đorđe Kratovac – 24 February [O.S. 11 February] and 8 June [O.S. 26 May]
• Saint Jakov (Archbishop Jakov of Serbia) – 16 February [O.S. 3 February]
• Saints and Martyrs of Jasenovac- 31 August [O.S. 13 September]
• Saint Jevstatije I – 17 January [O.S. 4 January]
• Saint Jevstatije II – 29 August [O.S. 16 August]
• Venerable Jelena of Dečani (Anna Neda of Serbia) – 3 June [O.S. 21 May]
• Saint Jelena (Helen of Anjou) – 12 November [O.S. 30 October]
• Venerable Jelisaveta (Princess Jelena Štiljanović) – 17 October [O.S. 4 October]
• Saint Jefrem (Jefrem) – 28 June [O.S. 15 June]
• Venerable Jefrosinija (Jevgenija) (Princess Milica of Serbia) – 1 August [O.S. 19 July]
• Venerable Jeftimije of Dečani – 24 November [O.S. 11 November]
• Venerable Joachim of Osogovo – 29 August [O.S. 16 August]
• Venerable Joanikije of Devič (Joanikije I) – 15 December [O.S. 2 December]
• Saint Joanikije (Patriarch Joanikije II of Serbia) – 16 September [O.S. 3 September]
• Hieromartyr Joanikije Lipovac (Metropolitan Bishop of Montenegro and the Littoral) – 17 June [O.S. 4 June]
• Venerable Joasaph of Meteora – 3 May [O.S. 20 April]
• Saint Jovan Vladimir (King of Duklja) – 4 June [O.S. 22 May]
• Saint Jovan the New (Despot Jovan Branković) – 23 December [O.S. 10 December]
• Saint Josif the New – 28 September [O.S. 15 September]
• Saint Kirilo (Kirilo I, Serbian Patriarch) – 12 September [O.S. 30 August]
• Saint Great Martyr Lazar (Prince Lazar of Serbia) – 28 June [O.S. 15 June]
• Saint Makarije (Patriarch Makarije Sokolović) – 12 September [O.S. 30 August]
• Saint Maksim (Despot Đorđe Branković) – 21 January [O.S. 18 January]
• Saint King Milutin (Stephen Uroš II Milutin of Serbia) – 12 November [O.S. 30 October]
• Venerable Nestor of Dečani – 24 November [O.S. 11 November]
• Saint Nikodim (Archbishop Nikodim I of Peć) – 24 May [O.S. 11 May]
• Venerable Nicodemus of Tismana (Nikodim Grčić) – 8 January [O.S. 21 December]
• Saint Nikon (Patriarch Nikon of Serbia) – 12 September [O.S. 30 August]
• Saint Nikolaj Velimirović of Ohrid and Žiča-4 January [O.S. 23 December]
• Hieromartyr Petar Zimonjić (Metropolitan Bishop of Dabar-Bosnia) – 17 September [O.S. 4 September]
• Saint Petar of Koriša – 18 June [O.S. 5 June], see: Peter of Koriša
• Saint Peter of Cetinje, the Wonderworker (Petar I Petrović-Njegoš) – 31 October [O.S. 18 October]
• Hieromartyr Platon Jovanović (Bishop of Banja Luka) – 5 May [O.S. 22 April]
• Venerable Prohor of Pčinja – 1 November [O.S. 19 October], see: Prohor Pčinjski
• Venerable Rafailo Banatski or Rafilo of Banat- 29 August [O.S. 16 August]
• Hieromartyr Rafailo Momčilović (Prior of Šišatovac monastery) – 3 September [O.S. 21 August]
• Saint Sava I (First Archbishop of Serbia) – 27 January [O.S. 14 Januyry]
• Saint Sava II (Archbishop of Serbia) – 21 February [O.S. 8 February]
• Saint Sava II Branković (Metropolitan Bishop of Erdély) – 7 June [O.S. 24 May]
• Saint Sava III (Archbishop of Serbia) – 8 August [O.S. 26 July]
• Hieromartyr Sava Trlajić (Bishop of Upper Karlovac) or New Martyr- 17 July [O.S. 4 July]
• Saint Simeon the Myrrh-streaming (Grand Prince Stefan Nemanja) – 26 February [O.S. 13 February]
• Venerable Simeon the Monk (King Stefan the First-Crowned) – 7 October [O.S. 24 September]
• Venerable Sinaites: Romylos of Ravanica, Roman, Nestor, Martirije, Sisoje, Zosim of Tuman and Jov – 19 May [O.S. 6 May]
• Saint Spiridon (Serbian Patriarch) – 28 June [O.S. 15 June]
• Saint Stefan of Dečani (King Stefan Uroš III) – 24 November [O.S. 11 November]
• Saint Stefan Lazarević (Despot Stefan) – 1 August [O.S. 19 July]
• Venerable Stephen of Piperi – 2 June [O.S. 20 May]
• Saint Stefan the Blind (Despot Stefan Branković) – 22 October [O.S. 9 October]
• Saint Stefan Uroš (Stefan Uroš V) – 15 December [O.S. 2 December]
• Saint Stefan Urošic Nemanjić – 24 November [O.S. 11 November]
• Saint Stefan Štiljanović – 17 October [O.S. 4 October]
• Hieromartyr Teodor Nestorović (Bishop of Vršac) – 29 May [O.S. 16 May]
• Holy Martyr Teodor (Sladić) of Komogovo – Theodore's sathurday, first Saturday of Great Lent
• Venerable Teoktist (Stephen

WildBill, each person makes his own choices, but I am fascinated by Saint Simeon the Myrrh-streaming

It seems, from my perspective that what the world needs now is

more myrrh-streameers

 

[ulukinatme]

 

[Rogue219]

If my doctor took me off Tums I'd have an existential crisis

Tums and Ted Lasso have eased me through Covid and middle age. I'm with you.

 

[dublinirish]

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