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[GreyWorm]

ND should recruit everyone of them and be ready when there'a a fall out. It's embarrassing that OSU'S leftovers would be a game changer for our class considering how bad we need big time DTs, but I'll take it.

There is only so much time in the day. If you're Gilmore, why try to recruit a kid committed to Ohio State that you're not overly high on?

Recruit Darnell Ewell. Recruit Dayln Wade-Perry. Recruit Greg Rogers. They aren't committed, high on Notre Dame and much more talented.

Everyone wants all these rush ends...it's not easy to recruit all the DEs and DTs you want, much less kids further down on the board that are committed to another school. There are priorities and as of now Cage isn't a massive priority with him being committed.

 

[GBdomer]

There is only so much time in the day. If you're Gilmore, why try to recruit a kid committed to Ohio State that you're not overly high on?

Recruit Darnell Ewell. Recruit Dayln Wade-Perry. Recruit Greg Rogers. They aren't committed, high on Notre Dame and much more talented.

Everyone wants all these rush ends...it's not easy to recruit all the DEs and DTs you want, much less kids further down on the board that are committed to another school. There are priorities and as of now Cage isn't a massive priority with him being committed.

Quit making sense

 

[IrishLion]

ND should recruit everyone of them and be ready when there'a a fall out. It's embarrassing that OSU'S leftovers would be a game changer for our class considering how bad we need big time DTs, but I'll take it.

Koon, you gotta take a breather from the being such a Drama Mama about recruiting. The sky isn't falling, brother.

 

[koonja]

Koon, you gotta take a breather from the being such a Drama Mama about recruiting. The sky isn't falling, brother.

What's untrue about this? Of those 4 DTs, how pumped would we be for any one of them, while OSUis probably going to stop recruiting one of them. We're not Purdue, we shouldn't be in a position where were licing our chops for OSU to say "meh' to one of their DTs. Ill survive the day believe it or not, but just telling it how it currently is.

 

[IrishLion]

What's untrue about this? Of those 4 DTs, how pumped would we be for any one of them, while OSUis probably going to stop recruiting one of them. We're not Purdue, we shouldn't be in a position where were licing our chops for OSU to say "meh' to one of their DTs. Ill survive the day believe it or not, but just telling it how it currently is.

I'd be pumped for the one we recruited, the one from Gorman, who is committed to OSU. The others aren't even committed to OSU yet, so I don't know why you're freaking out and calling the situation "embarassing" and comparing us to Purdue lol.

The other guys say they're OSU leans, but they're not all gonna pick OSU. That's just recruiting. No need to feel all butthurt about ND's current position, especially when their top remaining targets ARE NOT OSU leans.

 

[koonja]

I'd be pumped for the one we recruited, the one from Gorman, who is committed to OSU. The others aren't even committed to OSU yet, so I don't know why you're freaking out and calling the situation "embarassing" and comparing us to Purdue lol.

The other guys say they're OSU leans, but they're not all gonna pick OSU. That's just recruiting. No need to feel all butthurt about ND's current position, especially when their top remaining targets ARE NOT OSU leans.

No one's freaking out man. We have a dire need for quality DTs, OSU doesnt, and the good ones are standing in their line waiting for a ticket. Just saying the pecking order shouldn't be that lop sided.

 

[IrishLion]

No one's freaking out man. We have a dire need for quality DTs, OSU doesnt, and the good ones are standing in their line waiting for a ticket. Just saying the pecking order shouldn't be that lop sided.

But you are freaking out. An ND fan using the term "embarrassing" and then comparing his team to Purdue is the definition of a message board freakout. There are only two things I can think of that are lower than comparing ND to Purdue, and I can't write them on the internet for fear of being added to lists I don't want to be on.

But seriously, we aren't waiting on OSU's fallout. ND's top remaining targets aren't these guys that say they're OSU leans. GreyWorm already told you who to worry about in terms of DT recruiting, and they aren't OSU's fallout.

 

[koonja]

But you are freaking out. An ND fan using the term "embarrassing" and then comparing his team to Purdue is the definition of a message board freakout. There are only two things I can think of that are lower than comparing ND to Purdue, and I can't write them on the internet for fear of being added to lists I don't want to be on.

But seriously, we aren't waiting on OSU's fallout. ND's top remaining targets aren't these guys that say they're OSU leans. GreyWorm already told you who to worry about in terms of DT recruiting, and they aren't OSU's fallout.

I saw homeless man today with the sign that says 'the struggle is real', and that's it. Didn't say god bless, didn't say anything helps, etc. I also said there 'that is embarassing', went about my commute, and will never think about that again. I think you're making way too big of a deal about my comment on the state of recruiting DTS compared to OSUs.

 

[IrishLion]

I think you're making way too big of a deal about my comment on the state of recruiting DTS compared to OSUs.

You're the one that compared ND to Purdue. I'm just trying to tell you that it's not as bad as you think.

 

[koonja]

And I didn't compare ND to Purdue, I said were not Purdue. Embarassing is a strong word, let me change to 'not ideal' so the board doesn't go into a frenzy. We can recover with DTs, just looks not ideal currently.

 

[IrishLion]

And I didn't compare ND to Purdue, I said were not Purdue. Embarassing is a strong word, let me change to 'not ideal' so the board doesn't go into a frenzy. We can recover with DTs, just looks not ideal currently.

Again, ND doesn't need to "recover" (at least not yet). Their top remaining target(s) isn't an OSU lean. AND we already have one guy committed.

 

[koonja]

Again, ND doesn't need to "recover" (at least not yet). Their top remaining target(s) isn't an OSU lean. AND we already have one guy committed.

My opinion is stickly comparing our DT situation to OSUs, but going in general, do you mean Rogers?

 

[IrishLion]

My opinion is stickly comparing our DT situation to OSUs, but going in general, do you mean Rogers?

You're OP said it was "embarassing that we're waiting on OSU's fallout."

That is literally not the case. There is one guy that ND would take (right now) as OSU "fallout," and that's Haskell Garrett.

ND's next remaining top target (depending on what you read) committed to ND. Their next target after that used to be interested in OSU, but it's an ND-Stanford battle right now (Wade-Perry).

The situation isn't what you seem to think.

 

[NDdomer2]

Man DT recruiting talk gets pulled from a DT's thread but the garbage in Phil's thread stays put? Some things aren't meant to be understood I suppose.

 

[IrishLion]

Man DT recruiting talk gets pulled from a DT's thread but the garbage in Phil's thread stays put? Some things aren't meant to be understood I suppose.

Is all that trash still in Phil's thread? I'll take care of it.

 

[IrishLion]

That's my mod quota for the day. You guys can do whatever you want for the rest of the day and it will go un-checked.

 

[NDdomer2]

That's my mod quota for the day. You guys can do whatever you want for the rest of the day and it will go un-checked.

#freeirishpat ??

 

[IrishLion]

#freeirishpat ??

You need a mod to restore Irishpat, and like I said I've reached my quota.

Check with Beau.

 

[dublinirish]

Kentucky may not be a good football team, but they've always (or nearly always) done a good job of recruiting good college CB's, at least IMO. They've frequently done a good job of turning their 2/3-star guys into high-quality SEC corners. They've fallen off a bit recently, but they generally find good diamond-in-the-rough DB's.

take off your fried chicken tinted glasses son!

Kentucky always reminds me of Ron Zook's Illinois squads back in the day, they get decent enough recruits, do nothing for 3 years and then go well in the draft and then people wonder wtf are the coaches doing there that they cant get these guys to play cohesively as a team.

 

[Irish#1]

Kentucky may not be a good football team, but they've always (or nearly always) done a good job of recruiting good college CB's, at least IMO. They've frequently done a good job of turning their 2/3-star guys into high-quality SEC corners. They've fallen off a bit recently, but they generally find good diamond-in-the-rough DB's.

Kentucky is like IU. They're basketball schools and no matter how much you put into the FB programs they can never get over the hump.

 

[IrishLion]

take off your fried chicken tinted glasses son!

Kentucky always reminds me of Ron Zook's Illinois squads back in the day, they get decent enough recruits, do nothing for 3 years and then go well in the draft and then people wonder wtf are the coaches doing there that they cant get these guys to play cohesively as a team.

It's actually semi-perplexing. Kentucky does DB's, LB's and DE's really well... basically their whole defense is respectable on the basis of individual talent every year. But for whatever reason, they can't put it all together as a unit very often, and Stoops' air-raid is still struggling to get off the ground, which has created a storm of crappy football. Joker Philips didn't recruit nearly as well, but he actually got to bowl games, at least.

And I may be completely wrong, but idk if Drew Barker is the answer, either, in terms of getting UK's offense off the ground. The air-raid was supposed to mask the "transition" issues, but they've essentially been a boom-or-bust running team, just using air-raid formations. I'm thinking that Patrick Towles may have gotten a bad deal with how Stoops handled his time at UK. I hope he does well at BC.

Kentucky is like IU. They're basketball schools and no matter how much you put into the FB programs they can never get over the hump.

It's true. The apathy in the state of Kentucky for UK football is mind-boggling to me. I understand that basketball is the bread-winner and the claim to fame, but if even half of those UK basketball fans supported the football program, they would have an awesome fan base.

I know ND is *kind of* the opposite with the football/basketball dynamic, but I see more ND basketball fans among the football faithful, than I see UK football fans among the basketball faithful.

 

[koonja]

Kentucky is like IU. They're basketball schools and no matter how much you put into the FB programs they can never get over the hump.

Got me wondering, what school was either a football/basketball powerhouse, and actually pulled the other sport up to on par? I actually have no idea off of the top of my head.

I'd guess OSU basketball and UCLA football have come close, but still not there. Florida with Billy Donovan, but that was a 5-year span that's not sustainable.

 

[BobbyMac]

Got me wondering, what school was either a football/basketball powerhouse, and actually pulled the other sport up to on par? I actually have no idea off of the top of my head.

I'd guess OSU basketball and UCLA football have come close, but still not there. Florida with Billy Donovan, but that was a 5-year span that's not sustainable.

ND in the 70's.

Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas, Florida & Miami basketball come to mind.

Maybe Louisville football on the other side. Much tougher to do.

The B1G schools historically have had programs that were good at both. Purdue, MSU, Michigan, OSU all competed or won national titles in the 60's-70's

 

[koonja]

ND in the 70's.

Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas, Florida & Miami basketball come to mind.

Maybe Louisville football on the other side. Much tougher to do.

The B1G schools historically have had programs that were good at both. Purdue, MSU, Michigan, OSU all competed or won national titles in the 60's-70's

I personally don't consider any of the schools you mentioned, other than maybe Texas, as sustainably legit (wouldn't be weird if they contended for a title in any year) in basketball.

I didn't clarify my requirements, but that's one for me.

 

[koonja]

I would say UCLA in the past 5 years. They're a basketball powerhouse historically, and seen as a basketball school. But if they were to compete for a football title any of the past 5 years, or forseeable future, it's not going to be a huge surprise.

 

[BobbyMac]

All the basketball schools I listed were football powerhouse schools that later had basketball programs that were championship caliber.

In the 80's, Oklahoma had 30 win teams with Tisdale and then they were #1 with King and Blaylock. Either could have won the title. This year OU had both teams in the Final Four.

Florida won the NC in both sports in 2006.

These programs have to count.

 

[koonja]

All the basketball schools I listed were football powerhouse schools that later had basketball programs that were championship caliber.

In the 80's, Oklahoma had 30 win teams with Tisdale and then they were #1 with King and Blaylock. Either could have won the title. This year OU had both teams in the Final Four.

Florida won the NC in both sports in 2006.

These programs have to count.

They may have had a good run, but are they viewed as a basketball powerhouse? I don't think so, since I don't watch much NCAA basketball, but enough to know who's who, and I would not have considered them a basketball school or powerhouse.

 

[BobbyMac]

They may have had a good run, but are they viewed as a basketball powerhouse? I don't think so, since I don't watch much NCAA basketball, but enough to know who's who, and I would not have considered them a basketball school or powerhouse.

You win back to back NC's, you are a powerhouse. Are they in the same Blue Blood class as UCLA, UK, UNC, IU, Duke? No.

 

[koonja]

You win back to back NC's, you are a powerhouse. Are they in the same Blue Blood class as UCLA, UK, UNC, IU, Duke? No.

Would you consider Florida a powerhouse in basketball? Didn't they go back to back, or at least 2 of 3 with Noah? I personally would not consider them that. I should rephrase using your term 'blue blood'.

Which school was a blue blood in one sport, and actually picked up the other to a level where it wouldn't surprise anyone on a given year if they won a title.

 

[BobbyMac]

Would you consider Florida a powerhouse in basketball? Didn't they go back to back, or at least 2 of 3 with Noah? I personally would not consider them that. I should rephrase using your term 'blue blood'.

Which school was a blue blood in one sport, and actually picked up the other to a level where it wouldn't surprise anyone on a given year if they won a title.

Realistically right now just Oklahoma.

Michigan St isn't considered a Blue Blood in either but they would be the second most likely to win a NC in either at the moment.

Besides that, Michigan, OSU or Texas could do it at anytime but as good as their basketball teams have been from time to time, they only have 2 NC's between them.

As you mentioned, if UCLA did it I wouldn't be shocked.

With Donovan out of Florida, they are off my list but lastly, I'll throw Miami on there. Larranaga has a Top 10 program that can beat anybody and Mark Richt just got the keys to QB-U and isn't just a matter of time before the momentum swings back to the Canes?

*Edit.... Shocking but possible list. Oregon and Baylor.